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Racer X

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posted 09-15-2003 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Racer X     send a private message to Racer X   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Racer X
Ok.. now for a few months now my Kat has had a on and off problem with hard starting. 1 in 5 times it would do it. Sometimes it'll start right up and be fine. Other times it wont start until a lengthy cranking... then it idles rough for 2-5 seconds til it clears. I have had the car in for this problem 2 times now... the Tech at first thought it was a computer problem. I dont know what he did, but it made no difference. The next time he replaced a couple injectors which were supposed to be bad, but it's still doing it. In fact its more like every other start now. He's telling me now he needs to replace all the valvesprings on the exhaust side as per a Tech Service Bulletin. Now I'm not a mechanic, but if there was a problem with the valvesprings wouldnt it be all the time? I mean a problem that comes and goes is usually electonic right? This is really starting to aggravate me. My Tech has always been great, but this one I fear hes on the wrong track. Can anyone help me out here?
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Frank

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Bob Goetz


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posted 09-15-2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Goetz     send a private message to Bob Goetz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Goetz
Sounds like 1 of 2 things, the computer is not reading the fuel pressure correctly ( bad sensor ) or the throttle position sensor.

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posted 09-15-2003 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gene     send a private message to Gene   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gene
May want to have M.A.P sensor checked,try disconnecting vacumn line to it and see what happens.
Racer X

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posted 09-16-2003 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Racer X     send a private message to Racer X   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Racer X
Thanks guys for you thoughts! Anyone out there have or had a similar problem?

I assume we all probebly agree that the exhaust valvesprings have no effect on this problem.... right?
Frank

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posted 09-16-2003 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve T     send a private message to Steve T   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Steve T
I do not see how the exhaust valve springs could cause an intermittent problem like you describe. Unless it has something to do with them heating up and changing some type of clearance or something. Just does not sound very likely to me.

Anyone have a copy of the technical bulletin he is referring to? Do we have these posted some place on the POA site?

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Kala


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posted 09-18-2003 09:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kala     send a private message to Kala   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kala
Im having a problem with starting too... Mine is intermittent. Usually happens after the car is warm. Sometimes, not all of the time, I get a clicking noise when starting. Then it turns over.

I just replaced the battery, so its not that. I check the battery often with a charger to see if it is getting low. I always get a green light.

Also my local service tech says I have an amp leak of twice the normal amount. I think it was .80 amps. The "check gauge" light comes on.

My car is a 99 and Im waiting for the instrument panel recall to be done, they had to build one first they said...
Anyone have this problem then have the Instrument panel replaced?

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posted 09-18-2003 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
there is an instrument panel recall???
Kala


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posted 09-19-2003 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kala     send a private message to Kala   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kala
The Tech at our local dealership says there is a instrument panel recall for 99's... I searched POA for a topic, and I got a post by Todd, from 12/2000.

The dealership ordered the panel for mine. My headlights are kinda dimming at night, then going brighter, then dim again. Im hoping the IP is the problem.

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posted 09-22-2003 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Goetz     send a private message to Bob Goetz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Bob Goetz
I would sure like to know if the instrument panel fixes the headlight problem as my car has had the headlight gig going on since new and my dealer could not figure it out.
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posted 09-22-2003 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Kala, can you post the link for the recall of the 99 dash? I can't find it doing a search.
Kala


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posted 09-23-2003 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kala     send a private message to Kala   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kala
The recall is something that my local Prowler tech told me about. I had my Kat up there for the ball joint recall, they looked my VIN up in the computer, and said that there was other recall work that needed to be done...

There was a jumper wire that needed to be done, and a sticker that needed to be put on about the brakes I think. Last I checked they said the instrument panel was deferred, which means that it will be made, but they can't give me a date.

I ll give Bart a call today to see what's up, or if there is a recall notice number or date...

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posted 09-23-2003 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kala     send a private message to Kala   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kala
I called the dealership today. The recall is not active on all 99's. The regular service guy couldnt give me and answer on the recall number or date.

He said to call your local dealer they can check with the VIN. Mine was on recall. The IP will be replaced when Bart (Prowler tech) gets back from vacation, so I ll update then to let you know if the headlights are steady, not flickering.

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