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posted 08-21-2018 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tomcal     send a private message to Tomcal   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tomcal
Not good times in Trump-Land.

The latest updated FACTS....

Paul Manafort, Trumps former Campaign Manger, pleads guilty to 8 Felony counts. Enough to send him away for a long time. He faces yet another trial upcoming in September.

Michael Cohen, "The FIXER" and Trumps one time Personal Attorney, pleas guilty to 8 counts and implicates Trump in campaign finance violations.

Michael Cohen's Lawyer states, Cohen's campaign finance violations were done on direct orders from Donald Trump.

Michael Cohen's lawyer confirms he has hard copy receipts for wire transfer of funds from Trump Organization to Cohen's hush money LLC. Money used to pay Stormy Daniels off. A clear illegal campaign finance violation.

Robert Mueller(R) subpoenas Allen Weisselberg, the Chief Financial Officer for the Trump Organization, and he gives 30 hours of testimony.

Rudy(R) says, "Truth isn't Truth." and.....

"nowadays" facts "are in the eye of the beholder"

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MAGA = My Attorney Got Arrested.

........ SO SAD

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Funny Tomcat, in all the above, did not detect one comment or truth about Russian Collusion nor Obstruction ...

"Witch Hunt"

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Trump.... "I only hire the very best people."

Seems to be a lot of Witches in Trumps closet.

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MAGA = Mueller, Making America Great Again.

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posted 08-21-2018 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Trump land IS America. Good to see you are rooting for our country. Thanks. P.S. Trump is still Pres. and Hillary will NEVER be Pres. Life is good.
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Good to see Tommie is celebrating Mueller's Witch Hunt and his ruining of lives so he can squeeze them to manufacture crimes and assign them to President Trump. This whole thing is based on a lie to take down a duly elected President. None of this would have happened to Manafort other than they want him to make something up, that did not happen, to take down Trump. Meanwhile Mueller ignores the real collusion that occurred between HRC, DNC and FBI ( All these agents being dismissed means nothing at all, right)?

Yea Tom good to see you're so happy about the Gestapo tactics used on Manafort and his wife while they were asleep. Nice that you're so thrilled to see 2 lives ruined while criminals like Al Sharpton, who have done worse, get a pass. Like when you cheered as Don Juniors marriage and family broke up.

Hey Tom maybe you'll even have more to cheer about in the future. Perhaps Paul Manafort will become so depressed and distraught at the double standard and what was done to him that he'll commit suicide in prison. Maybe just maybe Tom his wife will end it all too! You can really celebrate then Tom you sick, sick bastard/POS...

Karma will take care of guys like Mueller in the end. Oh and Tom when do you plan on fessing up to the huge lie you told about your fake beach house? You are such a transparent phony and it's simple to see right thru you, a$$hole...

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The BIG LIE.

 

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To show that I unlike Tom & Reechee can be fair and balanced. Also Fox news is fair & balanced unlike the Liberal biased main stream media. I am posting the following. Let the chips fall where they may.

Turley on Cohen Plea Deal: Trump Could Be 'Unindicted Co-Conspirator' on Campaign Finance Violation

Law Professor Jonathan Turley reacted to former Trump attorney Michael Cohen pleading guilty to eight charges in federal court in Lower Manhattan, N.Y. Tuesday.

Turley said on "Special Report" that President Donald Trump may end up an "unindicted co-conspirator" in the matter.

Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion, one count of making false statements, one count of making an unlawful corporate contribution and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution.

Turley, of George Washington University in Foggy Bottom, D.C., said that "unless this unidentified candidate is Bernie Sanders, it's going to be bad news" for Team Trump.

"If prosecutors accept what is in this indictment, then the president just became an unindicted co-conspirator," Turley said. "If they believe that's what's in this indictment was true [that] he was directed to make this payment."

Trump reacted to the Cohen news while en route to a campaign rally in Kanawha County, W.Va.

Turley said the Cohen case is "more dangerous" for Trump than the Manafort case.

See much more on a discussion here

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/21/jonathan-turley-michael-cohen-case-trump-might-be-unindicted-co-conspirator-campaign


And lastly if Trump is charged with Campaign violation then Hillary and the Clinton campaign needs to be charged also. I submit that there is more evidence of campaign finance violation there than there is thus far with Trump.

And you have to wonder why would a multi millionaire use campaign money as hush money. I suppose it's possible but it does not make much sense.

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A different opinion. As I said let the chips fall where they may. But don't count you chickens before they hatch. Many on the left have done so before only to come up short.

Jarrett: 'Deceptive & Misleading' to Suggest Trump Is 'Unindicted Co-Conspirator' in Cohen's Crimes

Fox News legal analyst and bestselling author Gregg Jarrett said it's "deceptive and misleading" for pundits and lawmakers to suggest President Trump is an "unindicted co-conspirator" in crimes committed by Michael Cohen.

Cohen, Trump’s former personal attorney and confidant, admitted Tuesday to violating federal campaign finance laws in 2016 by arranging hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal “at the direction” of then-candidate Trump.

Cohen pleaded guilty to five counts of tax evasion, one count of making false statements to a financial institution, one count of willfully causing an unlawful corporate contribution, and one count of making an excessive campaign contribution.

"If those payments were a crime for Michael Cohen, then why wouldn't they be a crime for Donald Trump?" Cohen's attorney, Lanny Davis, tweeted Tuesday.

On "Fox & Friends" on Wednesday, Jarrett said even if Cohen is telling the truth that Trump directed him to pay off the women, Trump would not have done anything illegal.


He explained that if Trump was behind the payoffs, it would not have been solely to help his chances in the election, but also for personal and commercial reasons.

"As long as there is a secondary or dual purpose, the law says it's not a campaign expense," Jarrett said.

He added that in order to criminalize an illegal campaign contribution, which is normally a civil penalty, prosecutors have to show willful and knowing violation of campaign finance laws.

"The fact that a prosecutor in New York says this was a crime, and, under pressure, Michael Cohen agrees to that, doesn't make it so. It hasn't been litigated. There was no trial, no judge, no jury. So, Lanny Davis' statement is very misleading and deceptive," Jarrett said.

"It's blatantly unfair to somebody to be labeled an 'unindicted co-conspirator.'"

Watch more from Jarrett on the link below, and check out his New York Times' bestseller "The Russia Hoax: The Illicit Scheme to Clear Hillary Clinton and Frame Donald Trump."

http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/08/22/gregg-jarrett-very-deceptive-misleading-suggest-trump-unindicted-co-conspirator-cohens

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Beware,

Re: Greg Jarrett:

Jarrett has been criticized for letting his political beliefs color his legal commentary, sometimes changing his mind on legal issue based on which political figure would be affected. On August 3, 2017, Jarrett called for a grand jury for Hillary Clinton over her email controversy.[6] A day later, when a grand jury was impaneled by special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections, Jarrett said that grand juries were an "undemocratic farce".[6] Jarrett later called the Mueller investigation "illegitimate and corrupt" on Fox News, stating that "the FBI has become America's secret police" and "a shadow government".[7][8] Jarrett likened the FBI to the KGB, the Soviet security agency, for which he received PolitiFact's "Pants on Fire" rating.[9] According to PolitiFact, "numerous historians of the FBI and the KGB say the comparison is ridiculous. The KGB implemented the goals of the Communist Party leadership, including countless examples of tortures and summary executions. The FBI, by contrast, is subject to the rule of law and is democratically accountable."[9]

In the context of possible collusion between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and the Russian government, Jarrett has said that any such collusion would not be a crime: "Collusion is not a crime. Only in antitrust law. You can collude all you want with a foreign government in an election. There is no such statute."[10][11] According to PolitiFact, the statement is false. Three prominent election law scholars said there are at least four laws that would prohibit the sort of activities under investigation, whether those laws mention collusion or not. Jarrett's focus on a single word fails to reflect the reach of the criminal code."[10]

Jarrett has said that former FBI Director James Comey may have broken the law by releasing a memo to press wherein Comey recounted a conversation with President Trump where Trump requested that Comey end the investigation into Michael T. Flynn.[12] According to University of Texas School of Law professor Bobby Chesney, Jarrett's assertion is "nonsense".[12] University of Georgia law professor Diane Marie Amann also refuted Jarrett's assertion.[13]

In February 2018, Jarrett asserted that he had a "highly reliable congressional source" which told him that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein "used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress".[8]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Jarrett

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Fox News broadcasts poll that shows .... FOX NEWS.... "Least Trusted News Network."

In video links below, To be Fair and Balanced, commentator told producer to take down graphic because it was in wrong segment of show. Graphic was again shown later in correct segment of show.

Poll numbers did not change. Graphic stayed the same.

Now, STATE CHANNEL - FOX NEWS would/wouldn't LIE, would/wouldn't they.

Please address all your comments to Fox News.


Video links....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFpexn7T9pw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehFgUykjq_0

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If you'd like a more complete understanding of this topic, you can find the entire Monmouth study here:
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_040218.pdf/

It should be no surprise that Tom's Trump-hating graphic is misleading. The poll's focus was if, and to what extent, Americans feel that the news networks and social media broadcast Fake News.
IT'S A FACT!

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So Happy You Enjoy Seeing It.
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Hey cstall... Wake Up.

Fox News Broadcasted the graphic they created. "Least Trusted News Network."

Fox News Broadcasts and you still don't believe.... SO SAD.

BTW.... Can't you read, Please send your comments to Fox News.


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Yep, POLLS are never wrong. That is why Hillary is currently President. All the polls predicted it. Case closed. Where is Monmouth Univ.? I would bet big bucks it is not in the heartland.
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Originally posted by Tomcal:


Hypocrisy alert!

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I see you suffer from same affliction.

Can't believe your eyes or ears.

It's Fox News, you know. Only the truth. Just ask Beware, their spokesperson.

Fox News created graphic, Fox News broadcasted it. Fox Commentator approved, so it has to be true, Right.

So is Fox News now.... FAKE NEWS???

I would bet big bucks you went to Trump University in the Heartland.


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Never Mind. Waste of time & energy.
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.............. BREAKING NEWS ................

Beware throw in the towel, gives up.

One less Deplorable Trumpster.

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Paul Manafort, Guilty 8 counts. Michael Cohen, Pleads Guilty 8 counts.

So Much Winning. All in One Day.

Gooo Team Mueller = Making America Great Again.

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I'll bet Tommie the A$$hole is depressed about the killing of the poor girl in Iowa. Yea he's depressed that it was one of his precious illegal monster aliens that got caught. He was hoping it would be a white male to fit his narrative. There is some solace for Tommie though, at least it was a beautiful young white girl the group he hates most.

Tom you're a joke here on POA Political Forum. You've managed to make mostly everyone hate your guts. You're now a known liar posting a picture of someone else's house claiming it was yours and you're drunk on your own posts. Hard to believe how much you hate America and just how deep your sickness and hatred runs. Keep up the good work as you're already the biggest j*rkoff this site has ever seen. You're a real punk. You need to be in a rubber room somewhere...

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Originally posted by Tomcal:
.............. BREAKING NEWS ................

Beware throw in the towel, gives up.

One less Deplorable Trumpster.

....................................................................................................

Paul Manafort, Guilty 8 counts. Michael Cohen, Pleads Guilty 8 counts.

So Much Winning. All in One Day.

Gooo Team Mueller = Making America Great Again.


Nah I just came to the realization that you can't fix stupid. Your hate for Trump supersedes anything else, even to the point of being dishonest on this forum. Your never willing to debate Democrat's failures. In my book that is just another form of dishonesty

The economy is thriving, joblessness is at an all time low etc. But all you know is you hate Trump.

Well here is a FACT for you. "IF" Trump is forced out of office. Mike Pence will become President AND Hillary IS STILL NOT.

I'm not going away and I'll continue to post on the Political forum. I just won't waste any more time trying to debate you. You're not worth it.

End of this discussion. Enjoy your assumed victory.

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Tom - you posted the graphic with malicious intent. The purpose was to bash Trump/conservatives/GOP/Fox News, etc, and declare your superiority. It doesn't matter who created the graphic - YOU posted it.
If you want to know WHY the graphic is misleading, have someone read the Monmouth study and explain it to you.
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Tommie the Tucan!!!!!!!

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