posted 09-19-2007 04:52 PM                  

http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/002700.html

http://www.moparaction.com/Rides/Other/Prowler.html

http://www.talbottenterprise.com/

posted 09-19-2007 05:10 PM                  

The wiring was a nightmare, what with the previous re-wiring job done only with white and blue wires. That’s when Mike called Mark at Street & Performance to order one of his new Hemi harnesses. Tony, from Squire Inc. was called in to help make additional new wiring harnesses. When the Prowler still didn’t run right, because of communication problems between the car’s three harnesses, Mike called Rick, at Diagnostics on Wheels to help with some of the more advanced computer quirks we were having with the communication problems between the Hemi computer the Prowler engine, transmission and body computer. Once those problems were solved, the hood was then cut to clear the throttle body and air cleaner. An air pan was built, and an old style Mopar hood scoop was fabricated to get fresh cool air straight to the engine instead of getting hot air off the radiator and headers. At this writing, the Prowler is still under construction, but you can see updates on Mikes website:
www.TalbottEnterprise.com.

This car came from a friend at RSI that got the car from a shop up North somewhere. After looking at the car for a while they determined that they did not want to work on this type of project, so we went and picked it up. Then After looking at the car for awhile it was determined that the motor was in the car, out of line both up and down, in addition to also out of line side to side with the transmission which is in the rear like a C5 Corvette, this caused the drive shaft to explode destroying the floor board, the shifter inside of the car,destroyed the exhaust and cracked the front cover of the transmission. New side motor mounts along with a new 1/4" steel plate rear motor mount/starter mount, were made to correct the out of alingment problems. New headers were made out of larger diameter stainless steel tubing with laser cut ss flanges. The drive shaft was redesigned along with replacing the front tranny cover. When all of the fab work was done the car would not run and the wiring was a mess. The Hemi computer was wired in with nothing but white and blue wires, making diagnosing the problems impossible. A call was made to Mark at Street & Performance to get one of his Hemi wiring harneses so we could start over. We received a call from Tony at Squire Inc. who builds the harneses for Mark, saying that it was not going to be that easy. After talking for a couple of days, it was determined that Tony needed the car to build the harnes, so we took it to him. When we got the car back it ran ok, but the computers were not communicating correctly. The Hemi computer wanted different signals then the Prowler computer required, causing driveabiliy problems. A call was made to Rick at Diagnostics on Wheels, someone who was known to work on crazy problems like we had. With a couple of visits from him we had the car running good, too good when Bernard, the owner, came to drive it, the clutches in the transmission started to slip, so we had the transmission freshened up and the car was delivered to Bernard. A couple of months later Bernard called and said that the rear cover on the transmission was cracked and leaking fluid. Bernard brought the car back and it was determined that the chain stretched due to the extra tourqe and hit the case. A call was made to Dean at Prowler Pro for one of his heavy duty regear sets that should hold the extra power.

posted 09-19-2007 05:49 PM                  

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Originally posted by catfish:
wonder whats wrong with it.as soon as it was done he put it up for sale,and at higher price.didnt sell and now its up again at a lower price.

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After reading the other web posts/sites about this car, selling it probably had more to do with its parts munching abilities.

posted 09-19-2007 07:31 PM                  

Dan @ DC Performance is the only one I trust to work on my Viper. They do computer reflash's on Vipers and the results are amazing.

My question for you Catfish is?

Do you see the Achilles heel, for the Hemi Prowler is the half shafts or is it rear end? It sounds like adding the prowler pro gears, the tranny flywheel etc, have been fortified enough to handle the torque.

At 350 or so HP and TQ, I would think there cant be that much TQ to upset the Prowler. Its a different engine, but only 100 HP more than stock...

Am I just a Hemi Homer?

posted 09-19-2007 08:31 PM                  

I have given a lot of thought into putting a V8 in my car. In discussing this with RPL he thought a C5 vette transaxle would be the way to go.

The hard part is done, the V8 is in it, hopefully the bugs are worked out of the wiring. The C 5 would eliminate the need for the trans computer, A MAJOR PROBLEM since the Prowler has a 16 bit processor and the Hemi a 32 bit.

If my job was not so iffy I would buy it. Then start collecting the parts needed to install the C5 Trans and try and not BLOW the Prowler trans to bits before getting it changed.

The other major change would be to install a hood scoop that compliments the lines of the car

It is not a simple change to add that much power to a car designed for the V6, but how cool would it be to drive it with the sound of the V 8 as it should have had from the factory.

The only other thing might be the cooling, but that should be able to be handled too.

It would not be for someone that thought they could just get in and DRIVE

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Larry & Sue Mayes

posted 09-20-2007 11:11 AM                  

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Originally posted by Northern Cat:
Quoted from one of those links

A call was made to Dean at Prowler Pro for one of his heavy duty regear sets that should hold the extra power.

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posted 09-21-2007 08:56 PM                  

While there is some mystique to the Hemi Prowler, I need it like I need a hole in my head I'm finally down to a fairly normal # of cars... BUT its intriguing just the same... As far as I know, Vipers dont have transaxels. You can do a search for Quaife, that is the upgrade that power guys do to their Vipers.

Step up to the plate "WildCat" Larry it would look good in the calendar

C5 parts should be easy to come by...
Enough of them are wrecked daily

posted 09-22-2007 09:58 AM                  

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posted 09-22-2007 06:45 PM                  

Is it "Fear of the Hemi" or is it the "Economy Stupid"

Jan, I love my car, its me to a "T"...
I think my Avitar needs to be a bit smaller though... Its overbearing...

If A/C ever gets off his be-hind and figures out a POA Cali cruise, you'll have to actually take some time off one day so you can drive the snake on PCH

posted 09-23-2007 10:33 PM                  

Maybe ad a Prowler picture into a signature banner,,,and add it into your posts. That way,, owners will know you are/were a Prowler owner as well.

posted 09-24-2007 09:24 AM                  

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Originally posted by catfish:
the avatar matches the car.i,m ready when you coming to az.

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Get ready then Jan... I'm planning to be there for the Saturday auction @ Barrett Jackson

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
That way,, owners will know you are/were a Prowler owner as well.

You rock girl,,,one of my favorite email friends. Any gal who likes horses, dogs, exotic cars, and NBA basketball is alright with me

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I was really close to being a prowler owner AGAIN--- Hemi that is Then you guys talked me into my senses
Fickle like a cat, one night I'm off your Christmas Card list, then the next post you make--- I Rock