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prowlerdan
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posted 08-13-2012 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for prowlerdan     send a private message to prowlerdan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by prowlerdan
I'm new here so I apologize if this subject has been discussed before, my guess is it has! My question is this, in your own opinion what car going forward will be more valuable based on color/year/make (Chrysler or Plymouth)? I'm sure the other variables (mileage/originality/condition etc. have a huge impact on this, I just wanted to hear all your expert opinions! Kind of like an original 1963 split window fuelie, it has more value than other various era Corvettes due to its rare breed! Look forward to this expert Prowler panel responses!!
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posted 08-13-2012 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Terry     send a private message to Terry   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Terry
I would suppose the biggest question would be, how far into the future are you talking?
5 years
10 years
20 years
40 years or more

My pick for highest value would be the 1997's
Also, the rarer colors would tend to demand greater value.

For me, I bought my Prowler to make me happy. Though I don't drive it much, I look at it every day I'm home. It is not "stock" and I don't care if it is worth anything to anyone else. I have no intention of selling it... ever.

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posted 08-13-2012 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
You will get many different opinions on this topic! If you do a search and use the keyword "value", you will find many topics about this question to read.

Typically, a stock car will be more valuable than a modified car.

The 1997's were the first. 2002 were the last

The Black Tie and Woodward had the fewest built.

Candy Red is the rarest color even though there were 302 built in comparison to the Black Tie and Woodward. Reason: Deep Candy Red was a brand new color. Black Tie and Woodward were produced using existing colors.

When you modify a car and decide to sell it, it will be a bit more difficult to find just the right buyer who will love what you've done to the car as much as you do!!

Like most of us, I don't have my Prowlers as an investment for the future. They are an investment in the fun I have, friends I've met owning these awesome cars. Mine are not garage queens....I drive them every chance I get!!

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Unfortunately my magic 8 ball is on the Fritz, however I think mine will be the most valuable because it's mine and I love it, oh and cause it's red and everyone knows the red one's are the most valuable.JK
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Even though not a lot of Prowler's were made compared to other cars, most are still low mileage and not everyday drivers. Which means they are not being wrecked or destroyed and will be plentiful for years to come. Many of the rare cars today were bought as everyday cars and only a few survived. Unlike the Prowler which many people bought as a collectible or weekend car. The only way Prowler numbers decline is by accident. So I think price will stay where it's at for a long while.
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Terry andCJ's response are very detailed, good stuff!! NRVOUS I totally appreciate your "favoritism"...lol. And Garys response begs a great question, what are the numbers of cars still existing? This was always a big point of debate with the Vipers, of course they are alot more susceptible to wrecking due to their power and track usage! I hope this topic brings lots of you guys out to discuss, I was hoping to pick a subject that would involve alot of owners so I can get to know some of you! P.S. I did by no means buy my car for "investment" purposes, it's all about the joy of driving for me too!!!!
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posted 08-13-2012 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
there is no way to tell how many cars still out there.

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I think Gary hit the nail sqaurly on the head. All you have to do is look at the number of extremely low mileage Prowlers that consistently appear on e-Bay and other car sales sights. It's simply a matter of supply and demand. Right now the supply is high and I predict it will remain so for a long time to come.
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posted 08-13-2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Me Time     send a private message to Me Time   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Me Time
I'd think if you could do a veh. registration search you'd find out how many are registered/still on the road.
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posted 08-13-2012 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Well, they only built 10,702, so they will always be rare, regardless of how many are left!!!

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One of the things to keep in mind is that if a large number of people buy the car as an investment then don't drive it, there will likely be a good number of low mileage cars coming on the market in coming years.

If you bought a 1963 fuelie vette new and paid $4039.00 base MSRP plus most of the approximately $4,400.00 in available options you would have spent about $8,500.00 for the car.

Now take into account garaging, insurance, upkeep and yes maintenance even for a non driven car for fifty years.

The investment would be about equal to or exceed the value of the car today after adjusting for inflation and all the other considerations needed.

In the long run it is better for the investor and the car to simply drive it and enjoy it today and buy another one years from now without having to go through all the nonsense.

Of course this is simply my opinion. I have had my Prowler for four plus years and have very much enjoyed putting approximately 22,000 miles on it in that time frame.

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Between the two or three most active Prowler owner sites, you will likely find several multi-car owners. depending on their purchase prices, sales can happen quickly and at low selling price - if needed. That, and how people tend to tell people how over priced they are when bringing a KAt her to the Classifieds to sell ... will be a very, VERY long time before these limited producion cars (as CJ pointed out) gain legs and run back up to "collector car value" status. JMO.
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As parts to keep them on the road become more scarce, less and people will be driving their Prowlers as much which means there will be more "garage queens". There are mulitple stock Prowlers listed on ebay and autozone everyday and probably will be for a few more years. My guess is the value may rise in another 10 years or so, but for me the Prowler was always about having fun and enjoying the driving experience.
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I've enjoyed the various opinions and responses so far, lots of good commentary! We all know something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it and there will always be different opinions on the same. If you think about the value aspect though there are a lot of different possibilities mostly coming from the nameplate and the color. In other words is a orange Chrysler worth more/less/neither for they are the same than a Plymouth in orange? Just some food for thought and conversation!
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I still looking for my Prowler did a nation wide search the other day and if I remember correctly over 1,000 Prowlers were listed on 1 site alone. That is a huge number when you factor in the number of Prowlers made/still on the road.

The prices are dropping but it has a great deal to do with the economy. If all of a sudden disposable income grew the price on collector items accross the board would go up.

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Originally posted by Me Time:
I still looking for my Prowler did a nation wide search the other day and if I remember correctly over 1,000 Prowlers were listed on 1 site alone. That is a huge number when you factor in the number of Prowlers made/still on the road.

The prices are dropping but it has a great deal to do with the economy. If all of a sudden disposable income grew the price on collector items accross the board would go up.


Just curious, what site has over 1000 Prowlers listed on it? Also ebay has one for sale right in your back yard in Port Jervis, an orange 2001.

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Originally posted by prowlerdan:
In other words is a orange Chrysler worth more/less/neither for they are the same than a Plymouth in orange? Just some food for thought and conversation!

My opinion, for what little it's worth, is that I would doubt there would be any difference in value between the orange Plymouth or the orange Chrysler, though, given a choice, I would pick the Plymouth.

I did like that my rear bumper(s)[while I had them] on my Plymouth Prowler had "Plymouth" (on the driver's side) and "Prowler" (on the passenger's side). But the Chrysler Prowler had a "blank" driver's side bumper.

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metime,there is no way of telling how many out there,why dont you call each of the 50 states plus the ones out of the country and see what you come up with.dont forget to call all the wrecking yards in the usa for totals.guess you dont get it.

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Jan, best to read the whole statement before commenting "I'd think IF you could do a veh. registration search", the key word is IF.
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metime,there is no way of telling how many out there,why dont you call each of the 50 states plus the ones out of the country and see what you come up with.dont forget to call all the wrecking yards in the usa for totals.guess you dont get it.


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I'm pretty sure it was Auto trader but I'm not 100% on that. I hope I'm not mistaken on that number, I'll go back and look shortly.
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quote:
Originally posted by NRVOUS:
Jan, best to read the whole statement before commenting "I'd think IF you could do a veh. registration search", the key word is IF.

Thanks for answering for me.

I forget where but somewhere I "thought" I saw a way of checking the number of a certain make via reg's. I may be wrong.

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Originally posted by Me Time:
I'm pretty sure it was Auto trader but I'm not 100% on that. I hope I'm not mistaken on that number, I'll go back and look shortly.

Just did, 149 cars for sale not 1000! Back to the topic of this thread, the highest price car on autotrader is $75000. ironically it's 40 miles from me. Brand new 2001 with 50 miles, it's fair to say he is out of his mind right???

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[QUOTE] it's fair to say he is out of his mind right???
I'd say that's a fair assumption.

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quote:
Originally posted by NRVOUS:
[QUOTE] it's fair to say he is out of his mind right???
I'd say that's a fair assumption.


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quote:
Originally posted by prowlerdan:
Just did, 149 cars for sale not 1000! Back to the topic of this thread, the highest price car on autotrader is $75000. ironically it's 40 miles from me. Brand new 2001 with 50 miles, it's fair to say he is out of his mind right???


Maybe he's "fishing" for someone "out of his mind".
If he gets close to $75K for his Prowler, you know who you'll be calling a fool.
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