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Racer X

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posted 09-13-2002 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Racer X     send a private message to Racer X   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Racer X
Ok, I thought I would never say this.... I think I'm ready for some more hp in the Kat. I know I know... I said I would leave it alone. But today I got beat (barely) by a VW. What would be the best SIMPLE mods to help hp? If I could drop 1/2 second in the 1/4... that might work nice. BUt I dont want to do gears.... Thanks everyone.

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posted 09-14-2002 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KenG     send a private message to KenG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by KenG
Frank....gears are your BEST answer. That and a cold air intake. Both items are easily installed and can be removed if selling the Kat. That VW won't beat you again with the gears. It will even help you to keep up with your old C5 buddies!!!
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posted 09-14-2002 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Frank - just remember- once you start, it is hard to stop! A Cold Air Intake and less restrictive exhaust will help, but as much as you want. They will add additional benefit to most any other mod you do also. Once you helped the engine be able to breathe better, you need to get more air into or change the gearing.

The only mods that seem to make a very noticable difference are gears, Supercharger, nitrous, or turbos. The other things are tenths or hundredths of a second improvements.

Marty

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I'm thinking of getting the gears. I actually called Dean a month ago, but he was out of stock. Should call him Monday and see if there in yet since I just received my Kwiklift and ready to do other mods myself on the Prowler. BUT, here's my question, my wifes 95 Pontaic Transport, with a 3.8 liter engine and a 4 speed auto overdrive recently had an issue where the trans would not shift into 4th (overdrive). While driving it doing 70 mph, it felt uncomfortable to me because it felt like it wanted to shift but coundn't. I'm afraid that if I get the gears in the Prowler, I'll get the same sensation since I enjoy crusing at 70 mph. Any input from other owners? Thanks, Rodney
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For all those in the know, what are the negatives of gears?
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quote:
Originally posted by mcrealty:
For all those in the know, what are the negatives of gears?
spendingb the money...that is about it

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RacerX,

Three things that will get you that 1/2 second:
for less than $200: MTD 2.2 Intake and removing the baffles from the tailpipes.
for less than $800: replacing the mufflers with Borla or SSS.
for less than $1800: Gears

You have my word on that!

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posted 09-17-2002 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Frank I had a smarta$$ sales manager that worked for one of my clients bad mouth the KAT last winter. He drives a 2002 Camaro SS and said nothing I could do to the Kat would make it faster than his car. It took intake, exhaust, headers, gears and nitrous - but I outran a MODIFIED Camaro SS last Wednesday night. You can gain speed without the gears but you will need to get more air into the engine to make up 1/2 second.

Good luck - oh, the feeling of being pused back in your seat
when you hit the pedal is awesome.

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posted 09-17-2002 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
RacerX, you can also go with straight pipes and save a bunch of $ for a very similar sound.
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posted 09-17-2002 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NITEMAN     send a private message to NITEMAN   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by NITEMAN
RacerX,
While at the Prowl Lancaster event I was talking to Jason (FortKnox82)and he was telling me about his nitrous system. When he first installed it his car was completely stock. He took it to the track and ran a 14.7 in the quarter without the use of the nitrous. The next run he used a 75 hp shot of nitrous right from the start and he said he ran 13.5! No gears, just the nitrous. That would be a nice little insurance policy for that pesky VW and you wouldn't have to use it any other time. (yeah right, LOL)That to me is a very impressive gain for those once in a while special occasions.

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Niteman
You might be on to something there. I have been thinking about it, and I have cooled down since this post. I was pretty disappointed to lose to that VW. But I have my Mustang for speed. In fact it's in the process of getting another 100rwhp or so. There is always someone faster then you.... but it justed rubbed me wrong that night. I think the Nitrous might be nice though. We'll see...

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01' Plymouth Prowler(Cool,Cool,Cool)
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94' Mustang Cobra(Power Trip)
Supercharged 414rwhp

00' Trans Am WS6 Ram Air(Her car)
Blk on BLk...One mean looking car.

02' Excursion 4x2 Diesel(The Beast!)
All Black... no chrome!

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posted 09-17-2002 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Nitrous alone will certainly do the trick. I can smoke the tires all the way through 1st & into 2nd with only 75HP shot. I have given some thought to putting stock gears back in so I can dial in more N20 ealier in my runs and keep the car in 3rd gear 1/4 mile run. My quandry is I drive this daily and the gears are a lot of fun around town with the N20.

After going through the first couple of bottles, I really don't use the nitrous much. Unless I am at the track or the occassional Mustang/Camaro/Vette etc. starts to play.

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posted 09-19-2002 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Racer X     send a private message to Racer X   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Racer X
quote:
Originally posted by Marty Usher:
Nitrous alone will certainly do the trick. I can smoke the tires all the way through 1st & into 2nd with only 75HP shot. I have given some thought to putting stock gears back in so I can dial in more N20 ealier in my runs and keep the car in 3rd gear 1/4 mile run. My quandry is I drive this daily and the gears are a lot of fun around town with the N20.

After going through the first couple of bottles, I really don't use the nitrous much. Unless I am at the track or the occassional Mustang/Camaro/Vette etc. starts to play.


Marty
How does the motor/driveline seem to hold up to the nitrous? Have you had any problems with the car as a result of it? Also how much of a difference does it make in the 1/4? Thanks!

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posted 09-20-2002 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marty Usher     send a private message to Marty Usher   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Marty Usher
Frank I have only run at a local 1/8 mile track. Seems to run consistantly between 8.25 and 8.50 in 1/8 mile. A Supoercharged Viper only did 8.22 and I beat a modified Camaro SS. I am hoping to be in the 12's in quarter mile. Concerns on engine are dedinating due to low fuel. This seems to be an issue with suoercharged and turbo cars, too. When you develope so much power, the stock fuel system can't keep up. I don't think the problem happens with up to 100 HP shot, but with 150 my air/fuel gauge starts to show lean near end of 1/8 mile run.

I would suggest a RPM window switch also that shuts off the N20 ata preset RPM - like 6200 - so that the car does not shift and put all the extra torque through the tranny.

If you are looking to have fun on the street and not worry about that VW (and most Mustangs, Camaro's, etc.) a 75 to 100 shot would be fine. Once I went through my first couple of bottles, I really have not used it much on nthe street, but the power is there with a flick of the switch.

Marty

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