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JCProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Southern California |
posted 12-21-2001 05:56 PM
    
I could not understand why the DC didnt just come out with a V8 to start with. A lot of us were waiting for it! The Prowler we all know is super kool, I guess Im still real bum out the DC had to cut the Prowler. Like the Bug make it better every year and keep on making it. The DC already had the killer design why not keep on improving the Prowler. You cant help to wonder if Bob Lutz was still in charge at the DC would this had happen? This message has been edited by jcredvette on 12-22-2001 at 04:18 AM |
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STARFLAME Prowler Junkie From:Greensboro,N.C.,USA |
posted 12-21-2001 07:08 PM
I AM with YOU,I FEEL that DC should keep making The PROWLER and Make Inprovements Every Year!!! Way KOOOOOOL!!! STARFLAME |
WildCat                   POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 12-21-2001 08:38 PM
they have been making the bug since 1939, would you want to see a Prowler in 62 years with only one major change as the bug has had? and how many of those have a V8? the big difference in the V8 and the 6 is the sound, because in my opinion it has enough power as is. Yes I would have liked the V8 and maybe some day I can put one in it. WE ALL HAVE TO BE HAPPY THAT THEY DID BUILD THIS SPECIAL CAR just my 2 cents ------------------
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Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 12-21-2001 09:35 PM
I agree Larry, my Cat will probably stay the way it is. ------------------ |
SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 12-21-2001 09:50 PM
Some of the fastest cars in the world have 6 cyl. Sassy This message has been edited by SasyMama on 12-21-2001 at 09:51 PM |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 12-21-2001 10:15 PM
quote: I agree! 99 Prowler supercharged 8psi boost, 50 hp shot of nitrous, ProwlerPro gears and stock tires: And the best is yet to come!
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Andy R POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Cincinnati, OH |
posted 12-22-2001 08:21 AM
Remeber that Chrysler already had a superfast car = VIPER. This is a different kind of car and wouldn't want it to cannibalize its Dodge cousin's sales. ------------------ |
Rare1 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Sweden |
posted 12-22-2001 08:55 AM
Well said WildCat!!  Mikael |
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Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 12-22-2001 08:59 AM
I have to agree with you Sassy, I am the fastest(not the quickest)Prowler around, 112.78 MPH. LOL I am such a POSER.  |
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prowlin4fun Prowler Newbie From: |
posted 12-22-2001 09:10 AM
I think jcredvette is just trying to justify the purchase of his new 2002 corvette. Here is his post on the corvette forum titled "Which car looks hoter C5 Vette or DC PROWLER?" He seems so concerned about which looks "hoter". And it seems that the corvette crowd seems judge how "hot" something is based on fast it goes. Funny though that some of these corvettes are 14 second cars. I don't worry about the Prowler not having a V8... why should he??? |
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WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 12-22-2001 09:46 AM
1982 Car Craft Supercar Showdown `69 AMX 15.35@89.37 `69 SC/Hurst Rambler 15.29@92.68 `67 442 14.97@92.97 `63 409 SS 14.61@101.01 `63 Fury 426 wedge 14.39@95.84 `69 383 SuperBee 15.71@88.32 `70 340 `Cuda 15.65@88.49 `72 400 Lemans 14.62@98.57 `71 Charger R/T 15.94@88.75 `69 AMX 290 16.24@ 85.55 `64 GTO 389 19.74@69.82 `73 GTO 400 15.23@92.68 `67 440 Charger 14.85@97.19 `67 GTX 15.65@89.55 `66 GTO 389 17.10@70.69 `69 Couger Eliminator 428 13.46@107.91 `70 302 BOSS Mustang 15.17@94.33 `70 302 BOSS Mustang 15.54@91.09 `72 Gran Torino 429 14.28@100.00 `63 PAXTON turbochargered Lark 15.10@95.44 `64 Lark 15.62@88.06 `67 GTX convertible 16.29@85.06 `68 Z28 15.46@94.93 `67 396 Chevelle 15.38@93.55 `69 SS 396 Chevelle 16.95@80.93 `69 Trams Am 15.84@90.09 `73 Trams Am 14.43@100.00 `71 440 `Cuda 15.14@93.26 `70 T/A Challenger 14.63@96.87 `68 HEMI RoadRunner 14.51@100.61 `66 383 Charger 16.75@84.03 `65 289 Mustang 16.03@85.63 `65 Galaxie 427 with 2~4's 15.35@95.54 `69 396 Chevelle 14.94@96.67 `67 442 16.46@79.64 427 SS Impala 15.07@94.53 `71 LS-6 Chevelle 15.47@88.75 `66 427 Fairlane 14.40@97.71 429 BOSS Mustang 15.15@98.14 `70 1/2 Trams Am Ram IV 14.95@96.35 `67 428 Shelby 15.50@92.87 I found reading this magazine from 1982 interesting. This was the 2nd Muscle car Pure Stock drag racing of factory muscle. Now look at the times, they always seemed faster in the day but, this is actual times of factory muscle, HOW MANY OF THOSE DO YOU THINK THE PROWLER COULD OUT RUN. ------------------
This message has been edited by WildCat on 12-22-2001 at 08:28 PM |
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Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 12-22-2001 09:50 AM
Larry, that is truly amazing, them seemed like 11 second cars when we were kids. |
spoons POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:West Palm Beach, FL |
posted 12-22-2001 01:20 PM
Motor Trend FEB 1996 Engineer states the Prowler did not get a V8 due to weight issue. They had to keep the weight under 2800 lbs and the V8 would be too much weight. ------------------ |
Richard Jackson POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fairfield, Ohio |
posted 12-22-2001 04:35 PM
When I first saw the Purple Prowler at the new car show in Cincinnati in 1996, all I knew was that I wanted it. I didn't even know if it was a 4, 6 or 8 cylinder and I still don't really care. It is the LOOK that says it all. ------------------
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BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 12-22-2001 05:19 PM
A couple things interest me about some comments from the Vette forum Quote = "Non Car entusiast's own a Prowler". Give me a break! I hang out with the street rod crowd. I guess they are not car enthuiast's. I've owned Muscle Cars, Street Rods & Antiques I bet most of the Vette guys have only ever owned a Vette. So that makes them a Vette entusiast not a complete car entusiast. Quote = "The rear of the Prowler is ugly" Many if not all whom I talk to think the rear of the Cat is awesome. The new C5 is good looking from every angle except the rear. It's almost flat & very massive .
This message has been edited by BeWare on 12-23-2001 at 05:27 PM |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 12-23-2001 12:02 AM
I guess you should expect that the people who own Vettes think their cars are the best. That is why they bought them. I remember when I was about 10 years old and an "Old Guy" in the neighborhood bought a new Vette probably a 1955. He was probably in his mid 50's. I thought that was the coolest car I had ever seen. I thought it was really cool that an old guy had a neat car, too. I was waiting anxiously to see the new C5 when it first came out about 4 years ago +/-. I saw the back end and thought that car is butt ugly. They ruined it. I saw the Prowler for the first time and thought that is the best looking car I have seen since the Vettes first came out in the 50's. I thought it was ironic that the Vette owner was putting down the back of the Prowler. The Vettes are so common now I compare them to the PT Cruisers. They were head turners for a year or so and now they are all over the place, including my driveway. There is absolutely no mystique about them anymore. Again, I bought a Prowler because I liked the looks of it. I do not need to bash the Vettes to feel good about my car. That is why they make more than one brand and one model. I think Wildcat's list of times for the quarter mile is extremely interesting. Someone ought to cut and paste that on the Vette site along with Mike K's time sheet. ------------------ |
Chromer POA Site Supporter With Jack the Wonder Dog - Official POA Mascot Personal ScrapBook From:Denver, Colorado, USA |
posted 12-23-2001 08:47 AM
I knew IT!..jcreddvette is an Alterior Motived Corvette DOUBLE AGENT Prowler Website Terrorist!! (GOOD JOB Prowlin4fun exposing this Prowler now wishes he was.) I had a hunch about this guy and his motives earlier when he slipped in the same question replying to CJ's post on Auto Week. Jcredvette, like I said in my previous post..maybe you should frequent the Corvette website? Don't go away mad .... .. .... |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 12-23-2001 11:26 AM
V-8? Not needed. Plenty to work with. Ever race a new Honda S2000, 2.0 liter 4 banger, 240+HP, revving to 9,000 rpms? That will answer your question. ------------------ |
Scot Stern POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Escondido, CA |
posted 12-23-2001 11:51 AM
Feel like I've gotta jump in....... My wife has two Corvette's a 98 and an 86. To me the 98's back end looks like "Chevrolet ran out of money and just ended it as best they could." The Prowler has a "stance." It is wide and looks like it means business. Each car is radically different and to compare the two is difficult at best. I can honestly say that with the '98, which is a convertible, no one pays any attention to it other than the police. The '86, has only 31K on it and is perfect, but no one even notices it. The Prowler, on the other hand, gets looks from everyone and usually a "thumbs up" from the "older and younger crowd." If you want to be noticed drive the Prowler. If you want raw speed buy the Vette or a Viper. The Prowler sounds terrific, even with the stock exhausts. Lastly, for a 115 year old, who is always after the fresh stuff, the Prowler does the trick. Never have I heard of a young beauty jumping in a Vette in a Home Depot Parking lot. Why just the other day.... Gotta run as I just bought an Etch-A-Sketch and I am now trying to design a new futuristic automobile. In addition, my Post Toasties are getting soggy and my Epsom Salts are getting cold. Scot ------------------ This message has been edited by Scot Stern on 12-23-2001 at 03:03 PM |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 12-23-2001 01:01 PM
I know that we've had this discussion several times before. I posted this on one of those and thought posting it again my provide some additional insight as to DC's reasoning. I understand and totally agree that the car looks like a high performance hot rod. I don't disagree that it would have been great with a V8 (and wish it had been). They chose not to. I know I'm taking a risk here (LOL), but I am going to quote some info on the development of our car..... "Prowler is a great product story.....In its conception and development, Prowler embodies the hot rod ethos of individual artistry working magic with dramatic bodywork and the best from the parts bins. But Prowler is also a fully usable, driveable convertible, offering the reliability and safety drivers expect of today's production vehicles......The Plymouth Prowler was a concept vehicle which moved into production with only minimal design changes. ........Plymouth's Prowler was designed to evoke memories of and pay tribute to a uniquely American form of automobile - the street rod. With roots stretching back to the flapper era of the Twenties, the street rod has come to symbolize youth, freedom and a sense of rebellion. Prowler is intended to capture these feelings and make them available to a new generation of drivers.......To save both cost and development time, the corporate parts bin was judiciously mined for components that could be cleverly utilized. Raiding the parts bin is a tried and true part of the hot rod culture, or as a Prowler press release puts it, "Hot rods are an artisan making an assortment of parts into something more than it ever had a hope of becoming." "Using parts we've developed for our other cars and trucks celebrates the hard work we've done as a company."......While Prowler's hot rod design and sleek styling immediately catch the eye, there is much more to the car than is apparent at first glance. Under the skin, Prowler benefits from advanced engineering and cutting-edge technology - and, in turn, gives many benefits to Chrysler's engineers by allowing them to test new processes and principles. Chrysler V.P. of Design, Thomas Gale, explained the reasoning behind the engine and transmission selection: "We looked at a traditional V8 engine and trans package as well, using components from the truck side of the business. But the longer-block engine intruded too much into the passenger compartment, and solving that problem meant lengthening the wheelbase, and we didn't want that either. The combination of the V6 up front and the transaxle out back was, in the end, the optimum layout. Even more, this package is innovative in a Nineties way, in the same way as the Prowler itself is innovative while also being retro." "The Plymouth Prowler may be the most significant production effort with aluminum to date and when the hot rod goes into full-scale production, it will mark a watershed moment in history of automotive material application. The vehicle weighs 2850 pounds, nearly 900 pounds is aluminum - including body, frame and suspension parts." I do understand what you guys are saying and if you can find a way to make your cat exactly as you want it, I think that's great. Isn't that what hot rods were all about? I guess what I am trying to say is that instead of people constantly being critical of what they feel the Prowler is lacking, we should be darn happy that Chrysler even built this vehicle for us to be able to own! It also gave all of you a platform for modifications and personalization. Look at the cats out there and all of the cool things that individuals have done to personalize them!! It's no different than what we used to do and continue to do with our old classic hot rods! |
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WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 12-23-2001 08:46 PM
CJ, VERY WELL SAID ------------------
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Ray unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 12-23-2001 09:41 PM
As a Prowler owner since late '98 and an active member of the Corvette hobby and community since the mid '80's ... I can tell where some of you are "car people" and others are just fanatics ... These are two TOTALLY different segments of the car-lover spectrum. To try and compare one to another is like, um .. comparing Red Roxx to a real fox like Heather Locklear (inside humor) ... but the point remains the same ... looks to one are as subjective as where power, ride, handling and styling rate in order of importance to another ... as far as vette's go ... have a C3, C4 and a C5 ... each is different in every way but the name plate. Prowler is unique to itself and to the automotive hobby ... enjoy it for what it is,or make it into what you want it to be ... after all, it IS a street rod and THAT's what you DO with street rods. Merry Christmas ... |
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