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posted 06-26-2001 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
I want to install blue dots. First do they really show blue at night on the Prowler taillight lenses and how much are replacments lenses if I screw them up. I also like the look of the front turn signal lenses on the rear. Can you just replace the lens or do you have to install the whole assembly. How much? Does any one have part numbers? Thanks

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posted 06-26-2001 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000170.html http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000241.html

try that,, I bought a set of replacement lens, cant remember but I think about $70 Dots are dark at night, at least the ones from JC Whitney,,

Working on a set with bulbs in them now.
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This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 06-26-2001 at 08:42 PM

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posted 06-26-2001 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
Thanks, Let me know how the set with bulbs in them work out.

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posted 06-26-2001 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
Thanks, Let me know how the set with bulbs in them work out.
I am looking for the purple effect on my Purple Cat.

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I've used blue dots in a couple of my cars and bikes. I have one on my bike now. It's important to get them directly in front of the bulb or they wont light up. I use the glass ones. They are metal bezels with 4 tabs. 2 tabs fold over to hold the glass, and 2 fold to hold the bezel in the lens. some sealer is necessary so no water leak. I drilled a small pilot hole and scribed the outside diameter of the finish size hole I needed and hand filed to that so I wouldn't crack the lens.

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posted 06-26-2001 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
I just installed the plastic blue dots. It looks like a 4 year old with vision problems did it. I had leaks on both lenses and I succeeded in screwing up the plastic lens while attempting to fix the leak. I don't know how they look at night, yet.
Replacement taillight assemblies are $ 65 each. Part 4897364AB and the same with a 5 instead of the last 4.
I think I will be buying a pair shortly.
I would suggest just doing one lens first to see how you like it. You will save $ 65 if you decide you don't like it or it is too difficult a job.
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posted 06-26-2001 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
I have the same as Butchee I think, with the taps and such.. and glass,,

I used a spade bit,, cut through no problem,, then silioned where the silver ring hit the lens, and where the blue dot hits the ring,, then drilled a weep hole on the bottom of the lens for good measure,,.

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I have installed about 50 of these in the last six months,go to Home Depot and buy a Step Bit they are about $30.00 bucks but well worth it, and only buy Glass Dots,I also use a Bright Bulb it makes a huge differance. I will call my local rod shop I buy the Blue Dots from and see if anyone is making a Bright Bulb with the new style plug in.
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Could you older ("more experienced" to be politcally correct ) folks explain to us younger ("less experienced"??) people what the significance is of putting blue dots on your tailights? I have seen these posted on here for a while and am just curious as to why. Thanks in advance.

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posted 06-27-2001 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
Bill this is an old custom / rodder trick that goes back as far as I can remember. Back in the "old" days blue dots were a must have custom add on. If they work properly the blue dot causes the entire tailight to have a purple hue to it. I followed a 40 Ford back from a cruise night this weekend and one blue dot was working and the other wasn't. It made a big difference in the tailight color. I think the purple hue to the tailights would look really cool on my purple cat.

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Very cool but at least in this state highly illegal, really doesn't surprize me that JD has them ON HIS KAT.
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On a similar but unrelated subject Georgia just passed a law that you can run an old original plate on any pre 70 auto. Guys are restoring old plates and selling them for $100 a pop. At least we only need one(no front plate required)

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posted 06-27-2001 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
First of all, I am plenty old enough to know exactly what blue dots are supposed to look like. MINE DON'T LOOK LIKE THAT. I finally got to see them in the dark. There is no effect whatsoever. One of the problems is that the lens slopes down with the contour of the fender instead of protruding like most old taillight. Secondly the light bulb is pretty far away from the lens. Third, you cannot remove the lens from the taillight, you have to drill it with it on the car, or remove the entire assembly, which is no big deal. You cannot bend the tabs to hold it in place on the lens. I used plastic, which is a big mistake. I may not have them lined up perfectly with the bulbs, either but they are not off by much.
I am restoring mine to stock taillights and until I see some that really work, I will leave it like that.
What are the Bright lights? Maybe that will change my mind. Without Bright lights the blue dots are a total waste, in my opinion. Hopefully someone will disagree and convince me I am wrong because I would love to have real blue dots that look like blue dots.
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posted 06-27-2001 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jd2ksilver     send a private message to jd2ksilver   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jd2ksilver
showing your age Ed,,,
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posted 06-28-2001 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
Thanks for the input Ed. I think I will hold off until a solution to getting them to work comes along. Thats what I love about this forum. You can learn allot from others.

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Just a thought about the Blue Dots....I've never looked closely at the lens, but, is there any room to maneuver a small square patch of mirror angled at the height of the Blue Dot that would bounce the reflected beam of the tail light into the Blue Dot lens? Could you fashion a plastic "angle iron" from a thin gauge of metal to support the mirror and aim it out towards the dot?

If someone has one of those simple pen lasers you might be able to determine the light angle in order to position the mirror just right. A deft hand and long needle nose pliers might work.

Oh, well, it just might not work either but what do you think? Could it?

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posted 06-29-2001 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Paul, you would need the precision of a brain surgeon and probably tools at least as good as his. It is a sealed unit so you would have to work thru the hole you drill for the blue dot, or the hole where the light bulb mounts. Either way would be tough to mount something stable enough to withstand bumps. I guess if you took it off the car and had a lot of talent and patience it could be done. I don't qualify on either count. If you want to try it, I will give you one of my old assemblies after I get the new ones (which I haven't ordered since I leave in about 8 hours.)
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I assume that the hole for the tail lamp bulb has to be about .5" to .75" or so? Come one, Ed. Make us proud. Try my surgeons' technique, do the mirror, make it work. GO ED GO, GO ED GO!
Notice I'm not volunteering to try this myself. I learn from everyone else's mistakes. Well, most of the time, at least.

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Ed, have fun and wave on your way West as you head through Illinois.

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posted 06-30-2001 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for butchcee     send a private message to butchcee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by butchcee
anything mounted between the lens and bulb would show up as an unlit spot or shadow on the lens.

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