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BeWare                    POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 06-07-2001 08:40 PM
    
I hope to soon be able to purchase a Cold Air Intake. I remember Mike Gallaher had developed one, but there were some concerns about it sucking water because of the low mounting point. Has anyone installed Mike's intake and driven in the rain? Any problems? I saw some advertised (though not for the prowler) with some kind of valve or gate to prevent water from being sucked into the engine. ------------------ |
SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 06-07-2001 08:59 PM
That is a very good question. I have the MAC air intake. Anyone know of water problems. What about water puddles?? I have a turbo T-bird with the air intake in the from bumpers. Went in a puddle, and wham--seize... ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-07-2001 10:01 PM
What seized Sassy-turbo or engine? Sounds unusual. ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 06-07-2001 at 10:06 PM |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 06-07-2001 10:11 PM
- This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-10-2004 at 05:09 PM |
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BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 06-07-2001 10:17 PM
Thank You Bill. I am still keeping my options open. I take it your Cat is a daily driver. I don't plan on driving my Cat in the rain but there is always that chance. Like at Woodward last year it rained the day we went to CAAP. Have you seen the valve I referred to. Seems to me your intake would draw cooler air. Sorry I messed up on your name. ------------------ |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 06-08-2001 12:38 AM
Rich - I have Bill's cold air intake on my cat, and have had no problems at all. I highly recomend his unit, as cold air in front of the cat. converter has to be better than the hot air (behind the cat). My highway mileage has jumped up 1.5 mpg, and the sound addition of more air into intake tube is awesome! I'm sold on it! ------------------ |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 06-08-2001 07:12 AM
Al The T-Bird turbo I had sucked the water from the intake and seized the pistons trying to compress it. Sasy ------------------ |
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-08-2001 07:37 AM
OH-too bad. You say you have some deep puddles in your area?  ------------------ |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 06-08-2001 08:11 AM
- This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-10-2004 at 05:09 PM |
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-08-2001 08:33 AM
I wish someone will tell me why water injestion will seize an engine. Bend the rods, bow the heads, but seize the engine? For a piston to lock up in the bore a bucket full would have to be poured in at high RPM. This might colapse the dome causing out of round and seizure or the cyl walls would have to go out of round. Both are unlikely. Now if the heads are bowed and the coolant goes into the oil, this might cause the skirts to gaul causing seizure. Other stuff like the rod bearings should go before this though. I think the answer is that the water gets into the cylinders and if put away wet, the rings will rust to the walls. If you didn't bow the head, you would have to put the car away immediately after getting the water in it and let it sit for a week or so to lock up.This could be fixed by putting light weight oil or something like WD40 in the cyls to free the rings and a breaker bar on the crank to turn it over. ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 06-08-2001 at 08:49 AM |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 06-08-2001 08:51 AM
Simple, you can not compress water like air. ------------------ |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 06-08-2001 09:02 AM
- This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-10-2004 at 05:10 PM |
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-08-2001 11:17 AM
Sassy-no kidding that water doesnt compress-what causes the seizing though? Bill-same question to you? Neither one of you have answered the question- Come on guys, you can do better then the answers you've given-too general. Bill I've know about water injection for over 40 years-how old are you? ( I'm jealous of course) ------------------ |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 06-08-2001 11:27 AM
- This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-10-2004 at 05:11 PM |
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butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 06-08-2001 11:53 AM
Give it a shot Bill, might work out. I know the early Cutlass's w turbo had water injection. Think they mixed alky in too. My GrandFather's 3rd wife had one. 69 and crazy as a loon. I remember when it started detonating she would top off the underhood bottle. Think this was a 62 car too. Wish I had that one. 28 huh! Young whipper snapper hahahahahI'll tell you the reason I belabor the seize point-I think you got BS'ed Sassy with the piston seize thing. It just doesn't make sense that water would travel uphill thru the turbo and do damage to the pistons that would cause them to lock up in the bore. No splash from the front wheels either as the pickup is way in front of them so hence the question about the deep puddles. Guess I'm bored-gonna go try to find more Larry Prowlers. BTW, bent rods would tip the piston in the bore-maybe that's what happened-but so much water???? ------------------ This message has been edited by butchcee on 06-08-2001 at 12:03 PM |
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Todd Cameron unregistered Admin Use |
posted 06-09-2001 12:45 PM
I have the Mac Intake on all my 3, I love it and no problems with water. ------------------ |
onaprwl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:covington,louisiana,U.S.A. |
posted 06-09-2001 05:26 PM
Hey Sassy, Love a women...LADY who knows cars hat and all! ------------------ |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 06-10-2001 10:02 AM
Thanks onaprwl Born, bread and raised in Detroit and 5 brothers, all car nuts. I love to do my own work on them too. Just a pass time, sort of relaxes me. My office is one big model car show room. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it. ------------------ |
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