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Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 07-12-2000 02:00 AM
A few comments and my thoughts. Comments and suggestions are welcome. The most important thing that I want to stress is the smooth transition that needs to happen. As owners join us at the ProwlerOnline website and in our events we need to make sure that they know that "nothing has changed" in regards to the people involved. Many PPC members have become our friends and travel partners and we will continue to be friends whether or not they maintain their active membership status with the PPC. This is not about rivalry,,it's about friendship and co-operation for the betterment of the Prowler experience and that just means more fun for all concerned. I have been contacted by some people with questions about whether or not they are welcome or even if they should be involved in the Western States Prowler Association because of their geographic location. I feel that many owners East of the Mississippi would like to join us but feel excluded by the WSPA name. I would post as the SoCal-POA and others would post as their geographic or state boundaries permit. We will still have separate but united sections in this manner. I would like to see each region have one large event per year that will draw from the surrounding regions and I am planning the fisrt regional event at the Grand Canyon on November 2-5, 2000. At the present time, things are very loose and free wheeling but we will sometime in the future need to be more organized in order to keep all sections and owners focused and active. I stress the need for teamwork in all areas if we are to make this thing work for everyone. Because of my time limitations I will need to sometimes ask many of you for help in planning events or taking care of some of the behind the scenes stuff that needs to be done. Motel and restaurant reservations, trip planning, taking and posting pictures, events articles or newsletters and sending out updates to the owners are some of the very important things that come to mind. A short article to be posted on the discussion forum or faxed to the owners is always welcome but takes time. I would like to see each owner plan an event in their area once per year. By planning their own event once per year, no owner will ever be able to say that they didn't get the event type that they wanted to attend. This also gives others a chance to sometimes do things a little out of their own zone, giving them a chance to expand their surroundings and friendships. At this time, I have 5 Prowlers going to Folsom to join the NoCal Owners for the Folsom Breakout. Any more care to join us? I am trying to make it to the Woodward Cruise but I think that I will need to fly instead of drive. I just don't have the time but I feel that is very important that we show support for Carol's charity event. I would like to visit the CAAP plant on Thursday and then join the cruise on Friday and Saturday. Thanks for taking the time to read my thoughts. Comments and opinions are welcome not deleted! Larry Lord ------------------ |
Laddie Roussel >POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Hester, LA. USA |
posted 07-12-2000 05:26 AM
Larry, I like all of your suggestions and ideas... Gulf Coast POA, South Central POA, Bayou POA... Our Regional Event will be "Cruisin the Coast" Oct. 4 thru 8th... along the MS. Gulf coast... Here's the link... http://www.cruisinthecoast.com/ |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 07-12-2000 09:04 AM
Amen, Amen, Larry. I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts and ideas. We need to work for the betterment of the Prowler owner experience. The Woodward Dream Cruise is a start for Carol and I toward that end. It can be considered our regional event as a kick-off for the new association, whatever you choose to call it. Carol and I hope that you can make the cruise whichever mode of transportation. If you decide to fly, perhaps I might be able to find you a mode of transportation. Let me work on it! We also greatly appreciate your show of support. Let's all unite and make this not only a great Prowler owner experience, but the biggest group of friends ever!!! CJ (Prowler Lover) Longstreth |
Roger POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Seattle |
posted 07-12-2000 09:31 AM
Larry, You have done it again!! This is perfect and exactly, I mean exactly the right plan to tie all regions and the Canadian folks together. And yes, everyone will have to chip in a little effort to make it work but they will do that. Some may even contribue a few dollars here and there also, in order to make things happen. Count me in and I think a lot of other folks, particularly in the eastern areas, now, will be counting themselves in too. Congratulations. |
PhxSuncat unregistered Admin Use |
posted 07-12-2000 09:58 AM
All Prowler owners: Larry Lord has a good head on his shoulders (protected by a nice hat) and has the concerns of all of us in his best interests. Having said that, I realized he can't do everything for everybody all the time. He is asking for our support of time and organization to help promote our Prowler experiences. Asking, not demanding. Being involved even in in a small way helps us all to have a better time at events. I sincerely hope that all of us can be involved, some way, in the planning and follow through of organizing our Prowler events - this is what bonds friendship and good times. Since the merger of the International Prowler Owners Association and the ProwlerOnLine websites, I agree with Larry that the name Prowler Owners Association, is now justified. It was not our entente to exclude anyone, anywhere, from taking part in WSPA events. We welcome your regional support of planning Prowler events, as fun,good times, and new friendships are what we want for all of you to experience. Join together, join us, join in on the good times to come - POA! Larry Salzman, Suncat |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 07-12-2000 10:47 AM
Another thought Larry I am glad you brought this subject up. I have been a member of PPC since Feb. of this year I think, and the first event I ever attened I met you and a few others from the southern region of calif. along with all my norcal memebers. I cant tell you what a great time I had that day. Never thoght I could smile so wide for so long and still drive, lol. I guess I feel confused. I was one who questioned Larry concerning the continueing friendship between the memebers of the two organizations, and I feel comfortable it hasn't changed. But Im not sure what led to all of this and NO ONE other than one or two have even slightly explained what events led to this. Other than the money situation, and a post in the PPC by a JT I think, I haven't read any other reasons. As I said, one mans thoughts. ------------------ |
WildCat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 07-12-2000 12:48 PM
Larry, Right on the nail head! How about Midwest POA! I like the idea. Good thing your head was not in the hat when Hat Killer run over it! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! FOR A MID WEST EVENT HOW ABOUT A CRUISE TO KOKOMO TRANSMISSION PLANT ON AUG. 27TH LET'S SEE HOW MANY CATS WE CAN GET TOGETHER Larry "WildCat" Mayes |
Gary C POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:San Diego Area |
posted 07-12-2000 01:29 PM
Larry, you are the man, I see no reason why there couldn't be regional directors or even state directors. The most important issue is to keep the POA an easy going , no pressure, fun loving format to keep the love of our cars going. A yearly event is a must, something centrally located. Denver, Dallas, somewhere. I will offer my services to one or all. The only issue left is for the directors to be reimbursed for postage, paper or any expenses that they occur. This needs to be addressed quickly. What other ideas have I missed? Why doesn't DC have a yearly event for their PT Cruisers, Vipers and Prowlers? VW does and each event is fun, I went on the VW event last year and had a blast. Over 200 VW's attended this event at Morro Bay. Just one mans opinion. ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 07-12-2000 01:30 PM
Larry, I would love to come to Kokomo but Aug 27th is the Indy cars racing at the new Kentucky Speedway and I have season tickets. I don't know how many others have tickets to the race in this area but just to let you know why I can't come. I wish I could. I am trying to change an earlier committment so that I can go to Detroit for Woodward but I am not doing very well on making the arrangements. Does anyone go to Pigeon Forge/Gatlinburg for Shades of the Past in Sept? It is supposedly huge. |
Al Becker Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Scottsdale, AZ USA |
posted 07-12-2000 03:05 PM
I know the struggle that went on when we chose to be called WSPA. POA is much better we are not exculusive we are inclusive. I wish only the best of things to Prowler owners and enthusists. As for why any of us have chosen to form a new organization I beleive it is because we believe the members come first. Friendships is the most important thing. I have yet to host an event where the participants didn't have a great time. With that said, let the good times roll. POA is a reality. Regional activities makes the whole thing work for everyone. Maybe in the near future we can find a for a "national" group gathering. Prowl on friends. ------------------ |
Sam Prowler Enthusiast From: |
posted 07-12-2000 06:48 PM
John, View the PPC as you would view the LIVING WILL portion of your Last Will & Testiment: When things deteriorate to a certain point, you just have to "pull the plug". |
Ray unregistered Admin Use |
posted 07-12-2000 08:17 PM
Sam ... well put! Oh, and ya'll might wanna be careful on the POA, MOA (Michigan Owners Association)etc OA's ... because sooner or later those crazy Denver Boys will catch on and call them selves the DOA and then we'll all be spending money on sending flowers! |
Rickster POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:St. Louis, MO USA |
posted 07-12-2000 08:30 PM
Larry, keep us posted about the tour. I'm only a few hours away in St. Louis. Thanks..Rick |
Ron Jones Prowler Enthusiast From:So-Cal |
posted 07-12-2000 09:41 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gary C: Why doesn't DC have a yearly event for their PT Cruisers, Vipers and Prowlers? They do. This years is the 6th Viper Owner's Invitational at St.Louis in August. Don't know about PT though... |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 07-12-2000 10:38 PM
Larry, you know how I feel about everything. I really want to see this association(s) succeed. We deserve a better experience and having fun, cruising and making friends should be what it is about. Please call on me (and Bob) at any time for whatever help you might need. We have in the past and will continue to do so. This is exciting, refreshing and I think everyone is looking forward to being involved. Thanks for all your work, ideas and commitment. I hope all of us can and will follow your lead! I live, therefore I Prowl! CJ |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 07-13-2000 10:27 AM
jd2ksilver, I have cut and pasted my resignation letter below. I don't feel that there is a great need to open the subject up again as this only opens old wounds. Suffice to say that I and many other state directors were not happy with quite a few things. The overruling of the discussion forum committee was the last straw for me. I am in agreement with your statement about making changes instead of leaving but things that were supposed to change mostly never happened. I tried my best, I was very patient, I was very diplomatic, and I waited,,,,waited,,,,and waited some more.
In all fairness to the PPC, I must say that there have been some positive changes brought on since my resignation. I feel that many more still need to be made before it will be a club that I would feel comfortable spending my money with. """"""""""""""""""As a member of the PPC discussion forum committee I feel that I need to make an informational post that I'm sure will not be deleted. Ray Szull, after all of the work that I did to get your posting rights reinstated, I am very angry that you would even dare to think, question or insinuate that I have not been standing up for the Prowler owner rights to speak their feelings. The PPC discussion forum committee was my idea and my way of trying to eliminate the deletions that had been common while JT the VP and Nowell had full control over it. I have invested endless hours into trying to make it work for everyone concerned. It worked for a while and I thought that things were going well. As evidenced by the fact that CJs post and Gary Cs Carlini Advertisment in his signature are still there even though they were the subject of deletion discussions. Problem is, we (discussion forum committee) now find ourselves in the position of being overruled or not having our decisions considered. I will no longer be involved with the PPC as I feel that Nowell has directly betrayed me, as a member of the discussion forum committee, by allowing the deletion of posts and locking the post replies without consulting with the FULL discussion forum committee. He and I had an agreement and he has not kept his word to me. I've had it! I quit! I'm through! and I'M CHANGING THE CHANNEL.
[This message has been edited by Larry Lord (edited 07-13-2000).] [This message has been edited by Larry Lord (edited 07-13-2000).] |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 07-13-2000 12:12 PM
Larry Thanks for your reply. Very informative. And thanks to all the others who have replied via email and phone conversations. I have heard from both sides and have another conversation to complete. Larry, I have never doubted your sincerity in this matter, nor your professionalism. I personally felt somewhat uniformed and really wanted to get some facts. This organization was turning into a PPC putdown party, the one I belong to, and I wanted to know why. It is not my intent to spread the word or inform people, that is there decision to make on their own, my intent is inform ME. I believe a large number of the members (not sure what is the proper word) here really dont have many of the facts but that is really not my concern. As I said I have heard from members of both organizations and I want to thank them all. As a outsider,I would think both sides could have handled it differntly but hey,, we all could say that in many issues of our life, at least I know I can. Larry, I think of the short time we talked personally, and via email, you could tell I am not some jerk or xxxx disturber. I would like to think we are friends and will remain so. I have had my difficulties with PPC management also, certainly not on the scale you, and other members have experienced. If it did come down to that, then I would have to make some decisions also. I enjoy this club (right word?). Being I am in northern california I feel somewhat closer still as I have met some of you personally. You all have made your decissions to form this organization and I repect that, more than respect it I would defend if needed. I look foward to cruising the roads with you all. But I am still a member of the PPC, and unless somethings happens that would change my mind, I will remain a member. And I will defend it needed also. It is upsetting to me to read the remarks in this forum at times, and in chat. With all this said, I think you are right about reopening old wounds. I really appreciate all who have responded, from both parties. I enjoy both venues very much, both have great people and like others Im sure, I havent had as much fun like I do with my Prowler, and Prowler friends, in I dont know how long. I want to keep that going. Whew,,,, I'm done. Very Respectfully, ------------------ |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 07-13-2000 09:35 PM
And I thought that I was the only novelist onsite! Thanks for your note John. You have made many valid points. I have, and I hope others have been listening. ------------------ |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 08-07-2000 02:13 AM
I think that this post might again be appropriate. ------------------ |
1badcat Prowler Newbie From: |
posted 01-08-2001 09:59 PM
i'm new to the POA i think this post is worth reading for all the new owners !!!!! came long way in a short time good work and great vision |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 01-08-2001 11:17 PM
Thanks Badcat, You went WAY back into the archives to find that one! This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 01-08-2001 at 11:26 PM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 01-08-2001 11:33 PM
Since I was on my high school newspaper staff in 1964, that is probably my finest written speech. I was then and am now proud of that work. Thanks for bringing it back up 1badcat! (formerly PhxSuncat) ------------------ |
butchcee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Lake Ariel, Pa. |
posted 01-09-2001 10:34 AM
Those posts were just before my Prowler purchase and the fan got stinky at PPC. Well written guys! Thanks for resurecting it BADCAT. ------------------ |
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