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Daryl
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posted 03-02-2002 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Daryl     send a private message to Daryl   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Daryl
From the Jan. 2002 (I'm a bit behind) Car and Driver, Winners and Losers section:

From Forbes FYI. In a feature devoted to "the biggest design misfires in automotive history," the magazine nomitaed Chrysler's Prowler as "the most egregious misfire in the current show. . . a $45,600 Frankenstein's monster built of so many past bloodlines and styling cues that in its eagerness to pleaser everyone, it pleases no one."

Guess they never took a Prowler for a drive around the block!

This message has been edited by Daryl on 03-02-2002 at 10:05 PM

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posted 03-02-2002 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WPG     send a private message to WPG   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WPG
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in its eagerness to please everyone, it pleases no one."

That's interesting. Today I simply drove mine to pick up some groceries and before I even got out of my car, I had 3 groups of people slobbering all over the car, telling me how gorgeous it is and the usual. When I returned to my car 5 minutes later, there were people circling around it and people were driving by and stopping and pointing at it. I, like most on this forum, consider the Plymouth Prowler a work of art (the Chrysler Prowler is a different story though )

It's sad these automotive magazine people don't know what they are talking about. Just this morning, I was watching one of the morning shows that had one of the magazine editors on it (I believe C. Van Tune from Motor Trend(?)). Well they had an Eclipse Spyder on there that was clearly a 2nd Gen Eclipse, which was produced from 1996-1999. Well, this automotive "expert" said at least 2-3 times that the car was a 2001 Eclipse, which it could not have been because it was a 2nd gen. I just shook my head, much, like I did when I read the above review.

If others do not "get" the Prowler (both Plymouth and Chrysler), that is their problem and their loss. They can continue to drive and rave about their lemming machines. I will continue to drive my Prowler with a smile on my face and not a worry about what their opinion is.

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This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-02-2002 at 04:44 PM

Richard Jackson




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Some journalists are good and some not. Some are qualified to discuss some subjects others not. What in the first place is a writer from Forbes even doing any story besides finance. As they say he just doesn't get it.

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posted 03-02-2002 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
The writer probably drives some foreign piece of junk that he thinks is classy or maybe an Aztec. Like Richard said, either you get it or you don't.

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Brian King

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Following is the link to the article
http://www.forbes.com/fyi/2001/0305/070_4.html

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SasyMama

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posted 03-02-2002 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SasyMama     send a private message to SasyMama   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by SasyMama
Forbes magazine sucks...I am canceling monday morning..pronto.

Sassy

What a horrible article.

C5 Frank

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To bad for them.... they just dont get it. We do though!!!

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Wy. Easy Ryder
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posted 03-03-2002 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wy. Easy Ryder     send a private message to Wy. Easy Ryder   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Wy. Easy Ryder
The lame *** that wrote the article must have been conceived in the back of a Vega station wagon.
Steve T



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posted 03-03-2002 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve T     send a private message to Steve T   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Steve T
This is probaly the same guy (or at least a clone) of the people that write reviews for the Consumer Reports car issue. Take off the lab coat and have some fun!

Steve

PS My 17 year old (18 in 1 month!!! I am feeling old)daughter LOVES my Prowler and the Aztec!

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Hot-Rod
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posted 03-03-2002 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hot-Rod     send a private message to Hot-Rod   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Hot-Rod
Hey William, am I missing the joke here, or are you slamming the Chrysler Prowler in your post? Do you somehow feel the Plymouth version is better. I just bought a Prowler period.

Hotrod...
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Alex

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Well I've had people take my picture while I was driving down the freeway. They have snapped shots while driving the city streets. More pics taken while sitting at red lights. And still more folks snapping pictures while the kat sits waiting for me in parking lots. Think of that...all these lame a$$ people wasting their time, money , and film taking pictures of my ORANGE piece of Frankenstein monster.

So to the Forbes idiot....does this happen to you in your whatever piece of sh!t GodZilla foriegn fart mobile you drive???? I seriously doubt it!

Alex

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This message has been edited by Alex on 03-03-2002 at 10:37 AM

Wy. Easy Ryder
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Mr. Alex
Marty Usher



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Hey - Wy. Easy, watch what cars you slander. My first company car, fresh out of college in 1974, was an Orange Vega Wagon with fake woodgrain side panels. Talk about style!! When I pulled into the gas station I usually got
12 gallons of gas and two to three quarts of oil. It burned and leaked so much I never had to actully change the oil!

I guess the fact that the company went out of business about six years later could have been forcasted by thier choice in professional transportation for the sales force.

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WPG
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quote:
Originally posted by Hot-Rod:
Hey William, am I missing the joke here, or are you slamming the Chrysler Prowler in your post?

Yes, Hot-Rod, it was a joke, hence the smilie at the end of the comment. I appreciate all versions of the Prowler, Plymouth and Chrysler.

This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-03-2002 at 11:06 AM

WPG
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Do you somehow feel the Plymouth version is better.

No, I do not feel the Plymouth version is better than the Chrysler version, and vice versa. There really are no significant differences between the two. However, I do feel that my Prowler is the best of them all. (For the humor-impaired, yes, once again, a joke.)

This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 03-03-2002 at 11:19 AM

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posted 03-03-2002 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
what is this guys Email address?

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Nelson Weber

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posted 03-03-2002 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nelson Weber     send a private message to Nelson Weber   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Nelson Weber
As the old saying goes "Those who know the least about a subject usually have the strongest opinions about that subject"
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Back in Sept. Motor Trend did the same thing. I love the car its a blast, way cool looks, whats there problem? They need to talk to us owners!!!
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Very funny William...but I'm not humor impaired any more than you are. You should understand, and keep in mind that not everyone will react to those kind of remarks the way you say they were intend. Right or wrong, I was
offended.

We've both had more than our say, so I suggest we do everyone a favor and just drop this here and now. Thanks.

I apologize to everyone for not taking this off-line.

Hotrod...

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posted 03-03-2002 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
If you want to make a statement in response to the article in Forbes......I would suggest that you send a letter to the Editor. Emailing the author won't do any good. He already has his opinion and it won't matter what you say. However, a rush of letters to the Editor might get more notice.
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Somebody send Mr. Patrick Cooke of Forbes the picture of the parking lot aerial shot taken at DC's Black T event. Its certainly obvious to me that none of the people in attendance were "pleased" as he wrote. It's certain, indeed, that all those people must have been paid to bring Prowler rentals to the party because obviously, you wouldn't make a conscious decision to actually own a Frankenstein mobile, would you? Perish the mere thought!

As a matter of fact, it's even more obvious to me that the people who crane their necks trying to get one last look after we drive by only do so because they, too, are simply not "pleased" with us. Really they're just trying to shout out as we pass by, "You're not pleasing me". Are we deaf to their cries? Just how callous are we?

Really, friends, aren't we just doing everyone a disservice by driving around such unpleasant, undesirable "monster". Don't you feel guilty for having played a role in creating such a foul atmosphere? Have we no shame?

Mr. Cooke, here's a buck to buy a clue. You don't get it. So, if you don't get it, shut up, because you're not "pleasing me".

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This message has been edited by Paul on 03-03-2002 at 11:10 PM

Kelly T

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quote:
Originally posted by Daryl:
From the Jan. 2002 (I'm a bit behind) Car and Driver, Winners and Losers section:

From Forbes FYI. "the biggest design misfires in automotive history," the magazine nomitaed Chrysler's Prowler as "the most egregious misfire in the current show. . . in its eagerness to pleaser everyone, it pleases no one."

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Even though it may not please those that live in the ivory towers at Forbes, the Prowler sure provides a lot of pleasure to us common folk. Hey, maybe that's why ex-presidential candidate Steve Forbes has that puckered up, sucked on a lemon, look on his face all the time. He's just too hard to please.

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posted 03-04-2002 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rare1     send a private message to Rare1   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Rare1
He is obviously to shy to say he is jealous on all of us!!

Mikael
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posted 03-04-2002 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
I bought the cat for me, not carrying what others think about it. I know what I got and enjoy the hel! out of driving it. Obviously, the writer is not a Mopar fan. JMO

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Kelley Austin

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Rember the story about Frankenstiein's creation. When people didn't understand it, they wanted to destroy it. I have had people rear end the car in front of them just looking at my monster. Maybe we need to be careful they may want to destroy us. I LOVE MY MONSTER!!!!

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