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Topic: To buy or not to buy!!!!!!!! Help needed
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wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:21 AM
Hi guys i went to buy prowler today and thought i should find out a bit of background about car before buying it . I had been to see it and had already bought it in my head as it looked stunning and had been a car that i have always wanted.I am based in london uk so thought i better do an american check i used the "Autocheck" service and found things that im not quite sure how serious they should be viewed. Really need the experience of guys from that side of the pond to steer me in the right direction. I love these cars and really need to own one . I figured that these cars values are very stable just like the porsche 911 that i was going to trade for it. My worry is that if i buy this car is it going to be a problem selling it in the future i am going to paste out the report below and im hoping that you guys can give me your opinions on it. The car is going to cost me £2100 pounds sterling. I have looked at many cars from the states and what you guys pay in dollars for american cars we pay the same in sterling by the time its been shipped and we have paid tax .So as comparison this car is up for $21000. HERE is the REPORT AutoCheck Vehicle History Report 2001 Chrysler Prowler Report Run Date: 2013-05-31 06:10:49.506 EDT Report Summary Class: Sport Car - Premium Engine: 3.5L V6 MPI Country of Assembly: United States Vehicle Age: 12 year(s) Calculated Owners: 3 VIN: 1C3EW65G01V704608 Year : 2001 Make : Chrysler Model: Prowler Style/Body: Roadster 2D This Vehicle's AutoCheck Score The AutoCheck Score is a summary of your vehicle's history. It lets you compare similar vehicles with ease. This vehicle does not qualify for Buyback Protection
Unfortunately, this vehicle does not qualify for our Buyback Protection program. AccidentCheck Reported accidents: 2 Title and ProblemCheck Major title or other problem(s) reported OdometerCheck Your vehicle checks out! Last Reported Odometer: 34,048 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported AccidentCheck Not all accidents / issues are reported to AutoCheck
Information Reported! AutoCheck shows accidents reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608). Below you will find the date and location reported for the accident. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Accidents Reported on This Vehicle Accident No. Reported Date Location 1 10/22/2009 MI 2 06/14/2010 MI Reported accidents or damage events are a result of vehicle collisions or other non-collision incidents such as vandalism or theft. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Title and ProblemCheck Problem Reported! AutoCheck's database for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) shows a negative title(s) or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and EventCheck for reported accidents. 1 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title or probable total loss record No junk or scrapped title record Manufacturer buyback/lemon title record(s) No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame/unibody damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 8 10/11/2001 448 12/21/2001 452 03/13/2002 452 05/06/2002 5,270 05/08/2007 28,111 12/14/2009 34,048 05/25/2011 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional vehicle uses or events reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608). This includes reported vehicle uses such as rental or lease, and events such as whether the vehicle has been reported to have had a loan/lien or duplicate title issued. Other events show if the vehicle has a reported accident and how many calculated accidents or if it has been reported stolen or repossessed. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase. 1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s) No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: 2 Accident record(s) reported through accident data sources No corrected title record Duplicate title record(s) No emission/safety inspection record No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 2013-05-31 06:10:49.506 EDT Vehicle: 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail 09/13/2001 FALCONER, NY Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/11/2001 NY 8 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 12/21/2001 NY 448 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 12/21/2001 NY Motor Vehicle Dept. LEMON 03/13/2002 MONROE, MI 452 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY 05/06/2002 MONROE, MI 452 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:115N1260122) 05/23/2002 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:115N1430018) (Leased Vehicle) 05/23/2002 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 04/15/2003 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 04/15/2004 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 05/10/2005 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 06/14/2006 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 05/08/2007 TRENTON, MI 5,270 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:141V1280549) 05/09/2007 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:111V1290218) 05/09/2007 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/21/2008 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/04/2009 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/22/2009 MI State Agency ACCIDENT REPORTED (Case #:7435027) MINOR TO MODERATE DAMAGE REPORTED 12/14/2009 YPSILANTI, MI 28,111 Dealer Service TIRES/WHEELS SERVICE PERFORMED 06/14/2010 MI State Agency REAR IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:7643753) MINOR TO MODERATE DAMAGE REPORTED 07/19/2010 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:112Y2000403) DUPLICATE TITLE 05/25/2011 FL 34,048 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 06/29/2011 BRUNSWICK, GA Independent Source VEHICLE EXPORTED TO UNITED KINGDOM This Vehicle's Glossary Below are the specific definitions for events that appear in this vehicle's report. More information is available in the full AutoCheck glossary. Term Section Location Definition Lemon Title and ProblemCheck If after a reasonable amount of attempts the authorized dealer is unable to conform a new vehicle to any of its applicable express warranties, the manufacturer shall either provide its customer with a new vehicle of a like model line, if available, or otherwise comparable vehicle as a replacement, or accept the return of the vehicle from its customer and refund to its customer the purchase price paid for the vehicle less a reasonable allowance for use of the vehicle. Lemon laws vary in the states that have enacted them. Lemon laws may not exist in all states. Accident or Vehicle Damage Vehicle Use and EventCheck Reported accidents or damage events are a result of vehicle collisions or other non-collision incidents such as vandalism or theft. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Certain accident or damage events are reported by the source to have resulted in minor, moderate or severe damage to the vehicle, or the events are calculated by AutoCheck to have resulted in minor, moderate or severe damage based on the information reported. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase. Duplicate Title Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle had a duplicate title issued by the DMV. Fleet, Rental and/or Lease Use Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle has been reported as used as a fleet, rental and/or lease vehicle. AutoCheck vehicle history report Terms and Conditions This report, and any reliance upon it, is subject to AutoCheck Terms and Conditions. If you obtained the report from a dealer, the dealer has been provided with these Terms & Conditions and can share them with you. These AutoCheck Terms and Conditions are also available at any time at www.autocheck.com/consumers/disclaimer.do or by writing to Experian: Experian Automotive C/O AutoCheck Customer Service 955 American Lane Schaumburg IL 60173
AutoCheck Buyback Protection Terms and Conditions This vehicle (1C3EW65G01V704608) does not quailify for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. About AutoCheck AutoCheck vehicle history reports by Experian Automotive is the leading vehicle history reporting service. With expert data handling, the Experian Automotive database houses over 4 billion records on a half a billion vehicles. Every AutoCheck vehicle history report will give you confidence when buying or selling your next used vehicle, with superior customer service every step of the way. Patent Notice Certain aspects of this vehicle history report may be covered by U.S. Patent 8,005,759. So please can you tell me if this car sounds like a bad investment
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beachcat
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posted 05-31-2013 10:28 AM
Turn the other way and run! JMO |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:30 AM
IT mentions it being a lemon at 452 miles in 2001 is that really bad in usa. I figured the fact that its got 34000 on the clock now that the problem mus be solved And the the 2 accidents say minor to moderate when i viewed car it looked perfect the car |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by beachcat: Turn the other way and run! JMO
dammm i had the money in my pocket and the sun was shining i thought better come home and ask on this forum before i parted with my hard earned cash |
EssexExport
Prowler Junkie From:Lakewood, NJ, USA Registered: Oct 2008 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:47 AM
Prowlers did not come with ABS. You have to pump the brakes. |
ALLEY CAT
POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:mesa, az, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:51 AM
"Accident Check Reported accidents: 2 " POS Don't look back.......there are others out there to buy! Good luck! |
Me Time Prowler Junkie From: NJ. USA Registered: Jun 2012 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 10:58 AM
Unless the seller could show documentation on the accidents being minor I'd walk away, too many other Prowlers out there to buy. Don't fall in love because it will be a hard sell to a smart buyer.Thank your stars you came here first. |
Michael Pond
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:Canon City, Colorado Registered: Jul 2003 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 11:05 AM
Sounds like a $20,000 car. From the report you posted, I would stay away from it. Any Prowler that has been in a wreck, I would consider it a parts car. A good Prowler with that many miles (25,000 +)in excellent condition should be worth $28-$30,000, and will probably go up in value or remain the same over the years. You will find that most of the Prowler owners pamper their cars opposed to one that has been owned by dealers or leasing companies. We are a picky lot!! The car you are describing sounds like it has been run through the ringer. JMO |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 11:39 AM
Im going back down the bank tommorow and putting that money back in !!! Dammm!!! looks like the 911 is getting a reprieve for nowThanks for confirming what i guess i really new . I was so close to saying yes after seeing it today gleaming in the sun with the roof down. Oh well the search goes on . Might have to come that side of the pond to secure one . |
bjprowler
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:Clarksville,Ohio,USA Registered: Oct 2004 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:00 PM
If you're making a decision by a "committee" of people on the POA who have never seen the car in person and a CarFax report that may, or may not be correct, you're probably over reacting...I'd ask more questions of the seller regarding the issues that concern you and make a few calls to find out who the previous US owner was. Get a name and address and PM the info to me...... I'll be happy to call them or help you contact them by telephone or email to find out the cars history while it was in the US. It seems like a fair price on a car that's been well cared for... This message has been edited by bjprowler on 05-31-2013 at 02:06 PM |
Gort Prowler Junkie From:Clinton Tn,USA Registered: Apr 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by wonderwebb: Hi guys i went to buy prowler today and thought i should find out a bit of background about car before buying it . I had been to see it and had already bought it in my head as it looked stunning and had been a car that i have always wanted.I am based in london uk so thought i better do an american check i used the "Autocheck" service and found things that im not quite sure how serious they should be viewed. Really need the experience of guys from that side of the pond to steer me in the right direction. I love these cars and really need to own one . I figured that these cars values are very stable just like the porsche 911 that i was going to trade for it. My worry is that if i buy this car is it going to be a problem selling it in the future i am going to paste out the report below and im hoping that you guys can give me your opinions on it. The car is going to cost me £2100 pounds sterling. I have looked at many cars from the states and what you guys pay in dollars for american cars we pay the same in sterling by the time its been shipped and we have paid tax .So as comparison this car is up for $21000. HERE is the REPORT AutoCheck Vehicle History Report 2001 Chrysler Prowler Report Run Date: 2013-05-31 06:10:49.506 EDT Report Summary Class: Sport Car - Premium Engine: 3.5L V6 MPI Country of Assembly: United States Vehicle Age: 12 year(s) Calculated Owners: 3 VIN: 1C3EW65G01V704608 Year : 2001 Make : Chrysler Model: Prowler Style/Body: Roadster 2D This Vehicle's AutoCheck Score The AutoCheck Score is a summary of your vehicle's history. It lets you compare similar vehicles with ease. This vehicle does not qualify for Buyback Protection
Unfortunately, this vehicle does not qualify for our Buyback Protection program. AccidentCheck Reported accidents: 2 Title and ProblemCheck Major title or other problem(s) reported OdometerCheck Your vehicle checks out! Last Reported Odometer: 34,048 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported AccidentCheck Not all accidents / issues are reported to AutoCheck
Information Reported! AutoCheck shows accidents reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608). Below you will find the date and location reported for the accident. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Accidents Reported on This Vehicle Accident No. Reported Date Location 1 10/22/2009 MI 2 06/14/2010 MI Reported accidents or damage events are a result of vehicle collisions or other non-collision incidents such as vandalism or theft. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Title and ProblemCheck Problem Reported! AutoCheck's database for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) shows a negative title(s) or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems, and disqualifies the vehicle for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. Check the Vehicle Use and EventCheck for reported accidents. 1 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked: No abandoned title record No damaged title or major damage incident record No fire damaged title record No grey market title record No hail damage title record No insurance loss title or probable total loss record No junk or scrapped title record Manufacturer buyback/lemon title record(s) No odometer problem title record No rebuilt/rebuildable title record No salvage title or salvage auction record No water damaged title record No NHTSA crash test record No frame/unibody damage record No recycling facility record OdometerCheck Your vehicle checks out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage. 0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported 8 10/11/2001 448 12/21/2001 452 03/13/2002 452 05/06/2002 5,270 05/08/2007 28,111 12/14/2009 34,048 05/25/2011 Vehicle Use and EventCheck Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional vehicle uses or events reported to AutoCheck for this 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608). This includes reported vehicle uses such as rental or lease, and events such as whether the vehicle has been reported to have had a loan/lien or duplicate title issued. Other events show if the vehicle has a reported accident and how many calculated accidents or if it has been reported stolen or repossessed. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase. 1 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked: Fleet, rental and/or lease use record(s) No taxi use record No police use record No government use record No livery use record No driver education record 2 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked: 2 Accident record(s) reported through accident data sources No corrected title record Duplicate title record(s) No emission/safety inspection record No loan/lien record No fire damage incident record No repossessed record No theft record No storm area registration/title record Full History Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text. Report Run Date: 2013-05-31 06:10:49.506 EDT Vehicle: 2001 Chrysler Prowler (1C3EW65G01V704608) Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail 09/13/2001 FALCONER, NY Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/11/2001 NY 8 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 12/21/2001 NY 448 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE 12/21/2001 NY Motor Vehicle Dept. LEMON 03/13/2002 MONROE, MI 452 Dealer Record VEHICLE IN DEALER INVENTORY 05/06/2002 MONROE, MI 452 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:115N1260122) 05/23/2002 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:115N1430018) (Leased Vehicle) 05/23/2002 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 04/15/2003 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 04/15/2004 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 05/10/2005 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 06/14/2006 MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Leased Vehicle) 05/08/2007 TRENTON, MI 5,270 Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:141V1280549) 05/09/2007 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:111V1290218) 05/09/2007 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 07/21/2008 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 08/04/2009 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL 10/22/2009 MI State Agency ACCIDENT REPORTED (Case #:7435027) MINOR TO MODERATE DAMAGE REPORTED 12/14/2009 YPSILANTI, MI 28,111 Dealer Service TIRES/WHEELS SERVICE PERFORMED 06/14/2010 MI State Agency REAR IMPACT WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE (Case #:7643753) MINOR TO MODERATE DAMAGE REPORTED 07/19/2010 YPSILANTI, MI Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:112Y2000403) DUPLICATE TITLE 05/25/2011 FL 34,048 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION 06/29/2011 BRUNSWICK, GA Independent Source VEHICLE EXPORTED TO UNITED KINGDOM This Vehicle's Glossary Below are the specific definitions for events that appear in this vehicle's report. More information is available in the full AutoCheck glossary. Term Section Location Definition Lemon Title and ProblemCheck If after a reasonable amount of attempts the authorized dealer is unable to conform a new vehicle to any of its applicable express warranties, the manufacturer shall either provide its customer with a new vehicle of a like model line, if available, or otherwise comparable vehicle as a replacement, or accept the return of the vehicle from its customer and refund to its customer the purchase price paid for the vehicle less a reasonable allowance for use of the vehicle. Lemon laws vary in the states that have enacted them. Lemon laws may not exist in all states. Accident or Vehicle Damage Vehicle Use and EventCheck Reported accidents or damage events are a result of vehicle collisions or other non-collision incidents such as vandalism or theft. Not all accidents or damage events are reported to AutoCheck. Certain accident or damage events are reported by the source to have resulted in minor, moderate or severe damage to the vehicle, or the events are calculated by AutoCheck to have resulted in minor, moderate or severe damage based on the information reported. It is recommended to have pre-owned vehicles inspected by a third party prior to purchase. Duplicate Title Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle had a duplicate title issued by the DMV. Fleet, Rental and/or Lease Use Vehicle Use and EventCheck The vehicle has been reported as used as a fleet, rental and/or lease vehicle. AutoCheck vehicle history report Terms and Conditions This report, and any reliance upon it, is subject to AutoCheck Terms and Conditions. If you obtained the report from a dealer, the dealer has been provided with these Terms & Conditions and can share them with you. These AutoCheck Terms and Conditions are also available at any time at www.autocheck.com/consumers/disclaimer.do or by writing to Experian: Experian Automotive C/O AutoCheck Customer Service 955 American Lane Schaumburg IL 60173
AutoCheck Buyback Protection Terms and Conditions This vehicle (1C3EW65G01V704608) does not quailify for AutoCheck Buyback Protection. About AutoCheck AutoCheck vehicle history reports by Experian Automotive is the leading vehicle history reporting service. With expert data handling, the Experian Automotive database houses over 4 billion records on a half a billion vehicles. Every AutoCheck vehicle history report will give you confidence when buying or selling your next used vehicle, with superior customer service every step of the way. Patent Notice Certain aspects of this vehicle history report may be covered by U.S. Patent 8,005,759. So please can you tell me if this car sounds like a bad investment
I wouldn't buy it...but if you're in love with the car/price,at least get a first class alignment check. That's my 2 cents. Good luck. |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by bjprowler: If you're making a decision by a "committee" of people on the POA who have never seen the car in person and a CarFax report that may, or may not be correct, you're probably over reacting...I'd ask more questions of the seller regarding the issues that concern you and make a few calls to find out who the previous US owner was. Get a name and address and PM the info to me...... I'll be happy to call them or help you contact them by telephone or email to find out the cars history while it was in the US. It seems like a fair price on a car that's been well cared for...
Thanks for the offer but i have got no information on the previous owners the english registration document shows one owner the guy who imported it. looking at the report it suggests that it was a leasing company where the accidents occured and then it was sold at an auction. The date it was sold at auction was a month before it was shipped to england .this makes me think the guy selling it here maybe bought it there.
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ed monahan
POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA Registered: Jul 2000 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:34 PM
It originally got sold in NY and then lemon lawed and back to Detroit????? Then it was a lease. The lease part is not critical and maybe the lemon law was just something they couldn't figure out, early on but then did figure out. The accidents could be moderate, which is serious in a Prowler or could have just been bumpers bent. It might be a great gamble or a bad bet. I would check it really closely if you are still so inclined. If it was that bad, I don't think it would have lasted another 12 years. That said, there are LOTS of nice ones coming up for sale constantly. The owner in Ypsilanti was a POA member. The VIN is registered here on POA. Someone in MICH may know him and get the inside scoop.
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wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:55 PM
The owner in Ypsilanti was a POA member. The VIN is registered here on POA. Someone in MICH may know him and get the inside scoop.That would be interesting Here is the link to the car if you missed it earlier http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/plymouth-Prowler-/130907147132?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1e7aac8b7c
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Me Time Prowler Junkie From: NJ. USA Registered: Jun 2012 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 02:56 PM
Buy another prowler and ship it to Englad yourself. The 911 is nice but if you;ve done it before you'll be missing out IMO. |
bjprowler
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:Clarksville,Ohio,USA Registered: Oct 2004 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 03:06 PM
The fact that it was a "leased" vehicle only indicates that the buyer financed it by "leasing" it, not purchasing it outright and getting an auto loan on it...It does not mean that the car was used as a "rental" car. The title to a car is registered in the leasing company's name during the lease, not the person who actually drives it.As Ed said, an "accident" could mean anything from a minor accident to something serious....If you're buying it as an "investment" that might be important, but if you're looking for a great car to enjoy driving it's not so important if it was repaired correctly. Looking for a 12 year old Prowler with nothing on the CarFax report is probably like looking for a middle-age wife who is still virgin... This message has been edited by bjprowler on 05-31-2013 at 03:12 PM |
SHOW CAR Prowler Junkie From:Menasha, WI Registered: May 2009 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 03:11 PM
quote: Originally posted by wonderwebb: IT mentions it being a lemon at 452 miles in 2001 is that really bad in usa. I figured the fact that its got 34000 on the clock now that the problem mus be solved And the the 2 accidents say minor to moderate when i viewed car it looked perfect the car
You yourself pointed out it's been declared a "lemon". More importantly, no, that doesn't happen frequently in the USA.It's also been involved in car accidents two times in fewer than eight months. Why, aside from the car being declared a "lemon", is that a good sign of anything? |
garysss
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:Balto. Md. Registered: Jun 2005 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 03:19 PM
It has Non Run flat tires all the way around and it looks in good shape. The price is good, if you say that is like 21000 US. Front and rear bumpers are painted. There looks like a 2007 Prowlers Woodward plaque on Passenger side door. The Carfax will get you a better price, but also be harder to sell. Try to take someone with you that has a Prowler and check it out. It you have never drove one , take a test drive.This message has been edited by garysss on 05-31-2013 at 03:19 PM |
beachcat
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posted 05-31-2013 03:34 PM
I was taking a closer look, scanning the panels and I see irregularities in the trunk lid and hood/grill.That would bother the heck out of me. But that's me. |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 03:57 PM
Looking for a 12 year old Prowler with nothing on the CarFax report is probably like looking for a middle-age wife who is still virgin...Ha. ! Funny but is this true .! And I did have a look in the trunk and could see where there had been a little bit of work it wasn't major I cralled underneath At the rear and everthing looked good |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 04:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by beachcat: I was taking a closer look, scanning the panels and I see irregularities in the trunk lid and hood/grill.That would bother the heck out of me. But that's me.
What did you spot on the hood grill that looks wrong
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beachcat
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posted 05-31-2013 04:14 PM
the hood is touching the grill. It should be the same gap all the way around. Could just be a grill adjustment but I've seen quite a few bent hoods that do that. Either way it's a bit wonky.The passenger side headlight looks out a bit too at the back. It looks like panels have been removed/replaced.JMO Should look like this I think the Prowler fit and finish from the factory was excellent. Not sure what others think. This message has been edited by beachcat on 05-31-2013 at 04:46 PM |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 04:38 PM
I knew it was best not to buy straight away without opening it up to the forum . I wouldnt have noticed that |
bjprowler
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:Clarksville,Ohio,USA Registered: Oct 2004 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 04:48 PM
So, are you looking for an affordable Prowler for the joy of owning one or are you looking for a "perfect" garage queen?You won't find the latter for $21K |
wonderwebb
POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie
From:london uk Registered: May 2013 Admin Use
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posted 05-31-2013 04:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by bjprowler: So, are you looking for an affordable Prowler for the joy of owning one or are you looking for a "perfect" garage queen?You won't find the latter for $21K
The most important part is that I dont get stuck with a car thats gonna be hard to sell when the time comes
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