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reecheeBlack Males Nearly 3 Times as Likely to Die Due to Police Action, Study Finds

http://drexel.edu/now/archive/2016/December/Black-Men-3-times-as-likely-to-die-as-result-of-police-force/

StingRayPerhaps check same studies on percentage of black males involved in crimes.

Lets look at cause and effect ...

Lets look at the family unit in black community ....

Lets look at Chicago ....

ed monahanIn MOST large USA cities, homicides are about 90% black on black. Possibly a little higher. Black victim, black suspect. When the police are called, the perps usually don't just give up. They put up a fight or even a firefight. Sometimes they get killed by the police. It is ONLY then that there is a problem. If a black kills a black there is a relatively low chance it will be solved.
None of that can be disputed, those are facts.


mslc10Want to decrease the number of blacks having problems??

Just decrease the amount of blacks! Wear condoms!!

How stupid do you have to be to keep bringing your children into this unfair , violent, racist world? What does it say about you, exposing your child to this madness? Could it be construed that you are the abuser , just so you can get another $5000 from the taxpayer for each chilren you bring into this world that you say is sooooo bad for blacks?
Kind sounds like the definition of " insanity" !
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This message has been edited by mslc10 on 10-06-2017 at 10:38 PM

robinClick on the race tab. WLM


http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings-2016/

This message has been edited by robin on 10-07-2017 at 01:24 PM

Michael PondWhy does 20% of the population commit 70% of the crimes?
ed monahanThis was in our paper today, Sunday but it says it was written and published on 10/4.
The author is black, but you probably already know that.

Walter E. Williams

Bradley Prize Winner 2017

Professor of Economics.
wwilliam@gmu.edu
(703) 993-1148
D158 Buchanan Hall
Department of Economics
George Mason University

Related Sites:
The homepage of George Mason University.
Homepage of the Department of Economics at GMU.

Blacks vs. Police

Let’s throw out a few numbers so we can put in perspective the NFL players taking a knee during the playing of the national anthem. Many say they are protesting against police treatment of blacks and racial discrimination. We might ask just how much sense their protest makes.

According to The Washington Post, 737 people have been shot and killed by police this year in the United States. Of that number, there were 329 whites, 165 blacks, 112 Hispanics, 24 members of other races and 107 people whose race was unknown (http://***********/zyz2tpq). In Illinois, home to one of our most dangerous cities — Chicago — 18 people have been shot and killed by police this year. In the city itself, police have shot and killed 10 people and shot and wounded 10 others. Somebody should ask the kneeling black NFL players why they are protesting this kind of killing in the Windy City and ignoring other sources of black death.

Here are the Chicago numbers for the ignored deaths. So far in 2017, there have been 533 murders and 2,880 shootings. On average, a person is shot every two hours and 17 minutes and murdered every 12 1/2 hours (http://***********/o36cqfc). In 2016, when Colin Kaepernick started taking a knee, Chicago witnessed 806 murders and 4,379 shootings. It turns out that most of the murder victims are black. Adding to the tragedy is the fact that Chicago has a 12.7 percent murder clearance rate. That means that when a black person is murdered, his perpetrator is found and charged with his murder less than 13 percent of the time.

Similar statistics regarding police killing blacks versus blacks killing blacks apply to many of our predominantly black urban centers, such as Philadelphia, Baltimore, New Orleans, St. Louis and Oakland. Many Americans, including me, see the black NFL player protest of police brutality as pathetic, useless showboating. Seeing as these players have made no open protest against the thousands of blacks being murdered and maimed by blacks, they must view it as trivial in comparison with the police killings. Most of the police killings fit into the category of justified homicide.

NFL players are not by themselves. How much condemnation do black politicians, civil rights leaders and liberal whites give to the wanton black homicides in our cities? When have you heard them condemning the very low clearance rate, whereby most black murderers get away with murder? Do you believe they would be just as silent if it were the Ku Klux Klan committing the murders?

What’s to blame for this mayhem? If you ask an intellectual, a leftist or an academic in a sociology or psychology department, he will tell you that it is caused by poverty, discrimination and a lack of opportunities. But the black murder rate and other crime statistics in the 1940s and ’50s were not nearly so high as they are now. I wonder whether your intellectual, leftist or academic would explain that we had less black poverty, less racial discrimination and far greater opportunities for blacks during earlier periods than we do today. He’d have to be an unrepentant idiot to make such an utterance.

So what can be done? Black people need to find new heroes. Right now, at least in terms of the support given, their heroes are criminals such as Baltimore’s Freddie Gray, Ferguson’s Michael Brown and Florida’s Trayvon Martin. Black support tends to go toward the criminals in the community rather than to the overwhelming number of people in the community who are law-abiding. That needs to end. What also needs to end is the lack of respect for and cooperation with police officers. Some police are crooked, but black people are likelier to be victims of violent confrontations with police officers than whites simply because blacks commit more violent crimes than whites per capita.

For a race of people, these crime statistics are by no means flattering, but if something good is to be done about it, we cannot fall prey to the blame games that black politicians, black NFL players, civil rights leaders and white liberals want to play. If their vision is accepted, we can expect little improvement of the status quo.

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate webpage at www.creators.com.

BeWareThe owner of the Dallas Cowboys has said any player who disrespects the flag and the national anthem will not be allowed to play in the game. The Miami Dolphins have been ordered to stand. And the guy who started all this Colin Kaepernick is now saying if a NFL team will sign him he will stand for the anthem. Apparently his pay check is more important to him than his claimed cause. I think I predicted as much.

A recent poll shows that NFL approval dropped 15% between August and September and for the first time ever dropped below 50%. It was down to something like 45% approval.

BeWare
quote:
Originally posted by reechee:
Black Males Nearly 3 Times as Likely to Die Due to Police Action, Study Finds

http://drexel.edu/now/archive/2016/December/Black-Men-3-times-as-like ly-to-die-as-result-of-police-force/


And this puts that study in perspective.


The Color of Crime

New Century Foundation is a 501(c)(3) organization founded in 1994 to study immigration and race relations so as to better understand the consequences of America’s increasing diversity.

Perhaps the most important publication of New Century Foundation is “The Color of Crime,” New Century Foundation’s report on differences in crime rates by race, bias in the justice system, and interracial crime. First published as a monograph in 1999 and updated and expanded in 2005, the 2016 edition of “The Color of Crime” is available in print from our store, or online as a standard webpage or a PDF download.

•The evidence suggests that if there is police racial bias in arrests it is negligible. Victim and witness surveys show that police arrest violent criminals in close proportion to the rates at which criminals of different races commit violent crimes.

•Both violent and non­violent crime has been declining in the United States since a high in 1993. 2015 saw a disturbing rise in murder in major American cities that some observers associated with depolicing” in response to intense media and public scrutiny of police activity.

Crime rates

•There are dramatic race differences in crime rates. Asians have the lowest rates, followed by whites, and then Hispanics. Blacks have notably high crime rates. This pattern holds true for virtually all crime categories and for virtually all age groups.

•In 2013, a black was six times more likely than a non­black to commit murder, and 12 times more likely to murder someone of another race than to be murdered by someone of another race.

Interracial crime

•In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa.

Urban centers

•In 2014 in New York City, a black was 31 times more likely than a white to be arrested for murder, and a Hispanic was 12.4 times more likely. For the crime of “shooting”—defined as firing a bullet that hits someone—a black was 98.4 times more likely than a white to be arrested, and a Hispanic was 23.6 times more likely.

•If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent.

•In an all­-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.

Police shootings

•In 2015, a black person was 2.45 times more likely than a white person to be shot and killed by the police. A Hispanic person was 1.21 times more likely. These figures are well within what would be expected given race differences in crime rates and likelihood to resist arrest.

•In 2015, police killings of blacks accounted for approximately 4 percent of homicides of blacks. Police killings of unarmed blacks accounted for approximately 0.6 percent of homicides of blacks. The overwhelming majority of black homicide victims (93 percent from 1980 to 2008) were killed by blacks.
http://www.amren.com/the-color-of-crime/

This message has been edited by BeWare on 10-09-2017 at 10:05 AM

ed monahan

If you thought “taking a knee” or simply staying in the locker room is bad, you should see what the Seattle Seahawks did.

Defensive end Michael Bennett was captured on camera burning an American flag while they stayed in the locker room during the National Anthem on Sunday. The whole team is standing around him and cheering him on.

Bennett’s actions, of course, violate U..S. flag code and are perhaps the most disgusting thing to come of the stunt NFL players are currently pulling as they protest police officers defending themselves against violent thugs and Donald Trump.


NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says that the team went too far in this latest stunt. Via Fox News:

Goodell says that there is “no place in the league for this kind of behavior,” noting that a vote will be held to remove the Seahawks from the league entirely.



ALLEY CATHere are the honorable who take a knee:


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I'm thinking the OP can't relate to any of the above...

silverkatJust a thought but maybe kneeling is a natural thing for NFL players simulating when they're hiding from the pow lice.
ALLEY CATJohnny Cash ,,, on that Raggedy, Old Flag,,,,
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http://www.facebook.com/chizzel/videos/1156247044095/?fref=gs&dti=132404619750&hc_location=group
reechee
quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:

Defensive end Michael Bennett was captured on camera burning an American flag while they stayed in the locker room during the National Anthem on Sunday. The whole team is standing around him and cheering him on.




NOT
http://www.si.com/nfl/2017/09/30/image-michael-bennett-burning-us-flag-circulating-social-media-is-fake


Amid heightened tensions between the NFL and President Donald Trump, an image of one of the league’s players burning the American flag is circulating around the internet. It’s fake.

The “photograph,” which has made its way across Facebook and Twitter, shows Seattle Seahawks defensive end Michael Bennett enthusiastically burning the flag in a locker room as his teammates and head coach Pete Carroll happily look on. The picture is photoshopped.

The majority of the scene in the image is real, as evidence by this tweet from the Seattle Seahawks’ official Twitter account in January 2016:

But, as you can see, there is no flag, and there is certainly no fire. But that didn’t stop people from sharing the doctored image.

But even some anti-NFL users could see that the image is fake. For one, Bennett’s hand holding the flag looks off. And two, no sprinklers are going off as a fire burns in a public building.

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