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carguybill	I am going to be buying a 2 post lift. Are there any special considerations I need to know so I can lift my Prowler? Thanks ------------------ This message has been edited by carguybill on 03-17-2011 at 09:22 PM
jimsutton	I don't think so . but most of us have the 4 post lift
PURRFECT	I went with the stable 4-post. Your "special consideration" is to be sure you pin-point your center of gravity location of prowler over the 2-posts of lift...
Jim Kenney	I have my cat sitting on a two post Rotary brand hoist. No issues. Your contact points under the car are the two rubber pads on the front of the frame and the rear most position on the end of the box frame. This provides great balance and lots of room to detail or work on your cat. Have fun. Jim
RPL	Two post lifts are best for working under the car. Four post lifts are better for storing a car. The car is stored in a normal position versus storing it with the suspension is the fully unloaded position. Both are a compromise. When I'm working under a car I long for a two post lift.
fibertop	quote: Originally posted by RPL: Two post lifts are best for working under the car. Four post lifts are better for storing a car. The car is stored in a normal position versus storing it with the suspension is the fully unloaded position. Both are a compromise. When I'm working under a car I long for a two post lift. Is there a problem storing it with the suspension unloaded?
fibertop	Costco has a 2 post and a 4 post. The 2 post maximum lift height to the pads is 3.8 feet. You have to sit on a rolling seat to work under it. Is that normal with the 2 posters? This message has been edited by fibertop on 03-16-2011 at 05:43 PM
RPL	I can't say that storing it with the suspension hanging is a problem. I do know that all suspension mounts were torqued at the factory in the natural parked position. Hanging will put a load on the bushings that isn't naturally there. some people will tell you to store a vehicle with the tires off the ground to avoid flat spotting. personally, I prefer to store vehicles in the normal parked position and inflate the tires to the maximum rated tire pressure. Which is the best? Which is correct? Don't ask me, I bag our stored cars.
padroo	RPL, what's in the bags?
ed monahan	The cars. Also, some desiccant to keep the air dry.
RPL	We use Car Bags along with 20# of desiccant. Absolute best way that I've been able find to store vehicles longer term. We have a whole procedure that we've developed over the years. One of the bag and desiccant are ten years old and still work as good as new. This message has been edited by RPL on 03-18-2011 at 08:06 AM
galaxie	quote: Originally posted by RPL: I can't say that storing it with the suspension hanging is a problem. I do know that all suspension mounts were torqued at the factory in the natural parked position. Hanging will put a load on the bushings that isn't naturally there. some people will tell you to store a vehicle with the tires off the ground to avoid flat spotting. personally, I prefer to store vehicles in the normal parked position and inflate the tires to the maximum rated tire pressure. Which is the best? Which is correct? Don't ask me, I bag our stored cars. I think Bob is right. This is how I store my cars for the winter.
CJ	padroo..........this is from a thread some time ago where there was a discussion regarding winter storage. This is what we do with my Prowlers: We chose this type of bag because it is our understanding that the fan-inflated bubbles circulate available air that has high relative humidity. Those bags are generally clear and allow any ultra-violet light to penetrate. Our research indicates that the translucent CarJacket, along with the 20lbs. of dessicant (the bag comes with 10 lbs.) is the optimal solution. The darkness and inert atmosphere in the bag work especially well. We find that the 20lbs. from the beginning of Fall storage weighs 30 lbs. when we "let the cat out of the bag" in the Spring! That means approximately 1 1/2 gallons of water was removed from the controlled atmosphere! The dessicant can be re-used by drying it in the oven just before re-use. It comes with instructions on how to do that. Also keep in mind that if you use one of these fan-inflated bags to store your car for the winter and it is in your daily garage......any moisture and/or snow that is dropping off your other vehicles as they are parked in the garage is also being circulated by this fan into the bubble where your car is stored. Of course, this is a matter of choice and this is just our opinion based on our extensive research. This is the third winter for our CarJacket and my cat is just as good as new. I know that other people store their cats for the winter without any of these bags and say they have not had any problems. We prefer to not take any chances, but then we store it in our daily garage!! In addition, following is the link for the Battery Tenders that we purchased. There are many different kinds, being sold everywhere, but this is the best deal we found anywhere! They are usually sold retail for approx. $59.95. As you wil; see when you click on the link that they sell theirs for $33.95. It is the one with the Order #01991. http://www.accwhse.com/batteryt.htm Here is the procedure we follow every year: I'm in Michigan also, and here is my procedure for storing the cat: We fill the cat with gas, adding fuel stabilizer at the gas station - drive the cat back to ensure the stabilizer reaches throughout the fuel system. Full tank of gas minimizes the amount of air in the tank, minimizing oxidation of the fuel. We use battery tenders because they monitor battery voltage, only charging to maintain a full charge, never overcharging. Battery Tender just released a permanent bleed for the battery and with a cap to protect the connector. Also change the oil and filter before storing it. Air the tires to the maximum pressure on the sidewall, making sure to remember to lower them to the recommended levels in the Spring. In our climate, cold winter, high humidity, stored in a garage that is used daily, we elect to bag the car. There are many types of bags. The best solution is a black plastic bag and large quantities of dessicant in the bag to remove all moisture within the inert atmosphere. When the car is removed, it is absolutely as clean as the day it was put away with the engine starting faster than I would care to have. We thoroughly cleaned the cat, making sure it is completely dry before putting it in the bag. Also making sure that it is waxed and detailed. We cover it with its normal car cover before putting in the bag. It is a type of bag that zips on three sides. You drive the car onto the bag carefully. Distribute the dessicant tubes under the hood, in the trunk, in the interior and in the bag. We used 20 lbs. and extracted 1 to 1 1/2 gallons of water. Then we put on the normal cover so that the bag doesn't scratch the car if it blows around at all. We put on the battery tender and zipped up the bag. When we took it out this Spring, it was as clean and beautiful as the day we put it in. Everyone has their own methods and opinions and this is just ours. We have had excellent results and are very happy with the car bags and the battery tenders.
StingRay	quote: Originally posted by galaxie: [QUOTE]Originally posted by RPL: [B]I can't say that storing it with the suspension hanging is a problem. I do know that all suspension mounts were torqued at the factory in the natural parked position. Hanging will put a load on the bushings that isn't naturally there. some people will tell you to store a vehicle with the tires off the ground to avoid flat spotting. personally, I prefer to store vehicles in the normal parked position and inflate the tires to the maximum rated tire pressure. Which is the best? Which is correct? Don't ask me, I bag our stored cars. I think Bob is right. This is how I store my cars for the winter. [/B][/QUOTE] Two cars up on a four-post lift, two cars below ... all snug, warm and sleeping until spring. Bump up tire pressure high, and virtually no thump-bump tire issues after first few miles of seasonal driving. Used to store my one car on four jack stands all winter - had epoxy flooring too in that garage - noticed no value in doing so. Opinions may very, but this process works for me.
padroo	Thanks CJ, I live in NW Indiana near lake Michigan and we have Winters similar to yours. We just got the Prowler for Christmas and it is stored in our attached garage with two other cars. We never have used this garage for anything except storage. The garage door goes down in the Fall and doesn't get opened until Spring and it is heated all Winter. Most of it is carpeted and I have named it the "Show Room". I like it when I come home from work and my wife is waiting for me at the door and I have a beautiful home with nice cars. What more would a guy want!