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warmncool Does the Borla tips come on the 2002 or is it a mod?
idive Its a mod. The Borla is a complete exhaust system that includes the tips.
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warmncool Thanks Idive, I bought my 2002 gold used and it has the kat logo on the tips. Is that Borla or is that stock?..I have noticed earlier kats do not have the logo on the tips. I was thinking about getting Smithy's but don't want to mess with it if it is Borla..
MeanGene warmncool,
Another opinion...Borla can come as four add-ons to the Kat:
1: The cat-back system which includes carbon-fiber tips (older)
2.The cat-back system which includes kat etched tips (newer)
3. Just the carbon-fiber tips bolted/welded on to the existing pipes.
4. Just the pipes and hangers with carbon-fiber tips.

This message has been edited by MeanGene on 10-21-2003 at 01:35 PM
BeWare I am pretty sure I am correct that you can no longer get the Carbon Fiber Tips at all. If they are still available they are only the shorter tip version. The longer version carbon fiber tips (pictured), are not available from Borla. I am sure of this because I tried to get some and was told this.
CWatsonJr The cat tips come with the Mopar exaust system (Borla muffler).
They are just bolt on/off so if you want to go back it is no big deal
Your car came with the cat tips because someone changed the exhaust which means you don't have the stock exhaust system, either the muffler or the tips
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This message has been edited by CWatsonJr on 10-21-2003 at 02:54 PM
warmncool The cat-back tips/kat etched are the ones that came on my kat..I don't know if they are stock or the previous owner changed the entire exaust system..Thanks guys for the info, you have been really helpful getting to know my kat..I love it, never had anything close to this much fun in a car..
CWatsonJr They are not stock but they are good
BeWare The stock muffler is triangle shaped. The aftermarket Borla is more flat in appearance. Not sure what the Mopar Borla looks like. The entire Borla system is also stainless. So if it has any rust it is probably the stock muffler. Same with the tail pipes.
This message has been edited by BeWare on 10-21-2003 at 06:02 PM
superdoppler Hopefully the aftermarket exhaust tips don't slice up your fingers like the factory ones do. What was Chrysler thinking when they put those razor sharp tips on our cars?
warmncool Could the previous owner bought just the tips and not the complete exhaust system?..I haven't had the chance to check out the mufflers..It is a little tight under there..lol...Thanks, Larry
CWatsonJr It is possible they were purchased secondhand but the tips aren't available without the muffler from the dealer.
All things are possible but in all likelihood you have the Mopar system Really... it isn't a bad thing
Black Tie 161 I don't think you can get the tips seperately. My bet is that it's the new Borla exhaust (which is a MOPAR part #)
You want a quick visual confirmation? If the pipes leading up to the tips are all rusty, it's the original exhaust. If you see no rust at all, it's the new Borla pipes...they are guaranteed for 1,000,000 miles and will never rust....Great option if you are showing the car and just hate seeing ugly pipes under...
dickpine i purchased the mopar exhaust for my 2002
it is the same as the borla with the except the cats on the tips. the other exception was the the mopar exhaust was 100.00 more than the borla. price you have to pay to have the cats on the tips.

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T O P I C R E V I E W
warmncool	Does the Borla tips come on the 2002 or is it a mod?
idive	Its a mod. The Borla is a complete exhaust system that includes the tips. ------------------ Mickey 1997 Plymouth Prowler #156 Custom car cover Mopar front splash guards Real Rod stainless steel transmission cooler cover Mopar Trailer hitch and harness Real Rod weekender 1992 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE Longhorn scratches Boomerschlobber
warmncool	Thanks Idive, I bought my 2002 gold used and it has the kat logo on the tips. Is that Borla or is that stock?..I have noticed earlier kats do not have the logo on the tips. I was thinking about getting Smithy's but don't want to mess with it if it is Borla..
MeanGene	warmncool, Another opinion...Borla can come as four add-ons to the Kat: 1: The cat-back system which includes carbon-fiber tips (older) 2.The cat-back system which includes kat etched tips (newer) 3. Just the carbon-fiber tips bolted/welded on to the existing pipes. 4. Just the pipes and hangers with carbon-fiber tips. This message has been edited by MeanGene on 10-21-2003 at 01:35 PM
BeWare	I am pretty sure I am correct that you can no longer get the Carbon Fiber Tips at all. If they are still available they are only the shorter tip version. The longer version carbon fiber tips (pictured), are not available from Borla. I am sure of this because I tried to get some and was told this.
CWatsonJr	The cat tips come with the Mopar exaust system (Borla muffler). They are just bolt on/off so if you want to go back it is no big deal Your car came with the cat tips because someone changed the exhaust which means you don't have the stock exhaust system, either the muffler or the tips ------------------ Cliff Watson See My Prowler Page 2K1 Mulholland, Colorshift Flames, Mud Flaps, TGF Side Panels, TGF Bumper Covers, Eric Wolf Chrome Tranny Cooler, Blueberry Shimmers, Front Ceramic Pads, Homemade Top Brace, SSS Muffler, Weekender. 2001 Dakota SLT+ CC (Patriot Blue) 1998 Durango SLT+ (Intense Blue) X - 1998 Honda Accord X - 1991 Dodge Spirit X - 1965 Ford Mustang (289) X - 1994 Dodge Daytona Turbo X - 1971 Ford Pinto (The Rust Bucket) This message has been edited by CWatsonJr on 10-21-2003 at 02:54 PM
warmncool	The cat-back tips/kat etched are the ones that came on my kat..I don't know if they are stock or the previous owner changed the entire exaust system..Thanks guys for the info, you have been really helpful getting to know my kat..I love it, never had anything close to this much fun in a car..
CWatsonJr	They are not stock but they are good
BeWare	The stock muffler is triangle shaped. The aftermarket Borla is more flat in appearance. Not sure what the Mopar Borla looks like. The entire Borla system is also stainless. So if it has any rust it is probably the stock muffler. Same with the tail pipes. This message has been edited by BeWare on 10-21-2003 at 06:02 PM
superdoppler	Hopefully the aftermarket exhaust tips don't slice up your fingers like the factory ones do. What was Chrysler thinking when they put those razor sharp tips on our cars?
warmncool	Could the previous owner bought just the tips and not the complete exhaust system?..I haven't had the chance to check out the mufflers..It is a little tight under there..lol...Thanks, Larry
CWatsonJr	It is possible they were purchased secondhand but the tips aren't available without the muffler from the dealer. All things are possible but in all likelihood you have the Mopar system Really... it isn't a bad thing
Black Tie 161	I don't think you can get the tips seperately. My bet is that it's the new Borla exhaust (which is a MOPAR part #) You want a quick visual confirmation? If the pipes leading up to the tips are all rusty, it's the original exhaust. If you see no rust at all, it's the new Borla pipes...they are guaranteed for 1,000,000 miles and will never rust....Great option if you are showing the car and just hate seeing ugly pipes under...
dickpine	i purchased the mopar exhaust for my 2002 it is the same as the borla with the except the cats on the tips. the other exception was the the mopar exhaust was 100.00 more than the borla. price you have to pay to have the cats on the tips.