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dadskat	does anyone know if the tire pressure monitor system can be eliminated? the system gives many false reports and now after replacing the front run flats i have a leaking tire valve that the dealer says must be replaced...at the tune of $350! they state that the system can't be eliminated in the computer. any input? thanx, danny
catfish	not sure what you mean by removing the system,remove the lite from the dash if you dont want to see the lite the sensor/valve stem is now leaking,tell them to fix it,wasnt leaking till they worked on it correct?there is a rubber o ring on the stem part that is inside the tire and the center of the valve stem which they usually remove to let air out to remove tire.its there probem,unless it was leaking before the tire change.to get rid f the dinging noise,yu will have to track it down and unplug it to stop the warning sound. ------------------
JeraneW	I put a piece of electrical tape over the light on the dash and manually check the tire pressure on a regular basis. Mine worked fine until Goodyear messed it up.
George Johnson	You might want to do a search for spoons (Brian) upgrade to the TPMS.
spoons	Danny, Most people get around other Tire Pressure Monitoring Systems (TPMS) by putting all the sensors in the spare tire. Since the Prowler has no spare, that won't work. I am not sure if you can circumvent the computer, if you find a way to do so...PLEASE post your results. As for the TPMS fix: It is cheaper to upgrade your whole TPMS (module + sensors)to 2002 then buy the older (1997-2001) tire pressure sensors. The conversion to the new TPMS system cost me: 4 x $35 (New TPS) + $115 (TPMS) + $100 (dealer computer) = $355 Keeping the old TPS system would have cost me at least: 4 x $130 (Old TPS from moparsupercenter.com, local dealer = $200+ each!) + $100 (dealer) = $620 Therefore converting to the "new" TPMS system saves Prowler owners at least $265! See this post for details: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003077.html This message has been edited by spoons on 04-13-2010 at 10:04 AM
idive	If most get around it by putting them all in the spare, why could you not put them in a box in the trunk? I guess due to the surrounding air pressure needed on the system? Discount tire repairs/replaces TPMS with in house parts. Why would we not be able to use that service?
spoons	idive, You put them in the spare and inflate the spare to the proper pressure. Discount Tire can replace the 2002 sensor, but the 1997-2001 sensor is ONLY sold by Mopar and is a different frequency than the 2002 model. The 1997-2001 sensor has two batteries (last 10 yrs) and the 2002 sensor only has one (5 yrs).
spoons	1997-2001 Prowler uses OEM part number: 4815132AB Retail $232 each, or $117 cost. This sensor is NOT available in after market. Frequency: 315MHz Note that the base of the sensor is twice as wide (2 batteries) as the 2002 sensor (below) 2002 Prowler uses OEM part number: 52088990AC Retail customer cost is $35.00 each Frequency: 433 MHz
spoons	Each sensor has a unique IP address that way the on board computer can distinguish between sensors.
dadskat	thanx for all the info. the complication is the fact that the goodyear dealer that replaced the runflats did so for the prior owner the day before i bought it. and that dealer is 120 miles from me. I would like to look into the possibility of the cheaper sensors. so then i would have to "upgrade" the existing computer program? or replace a piece of hardware? another problem i have now is that the chrysler dealer required me to "pre-pay" for the sensor to order it which i did. so they have my money already.....might not be able to turn that around now i guess. :crying
spoons	Danny, If that is the case...have the dealer install the "old" sensors, sync them with the on board CPU and be on your marry way. In order to upgrade to the new sensors, you must replace the tire pressure monitor system module in the dash (in front of the steering wheel). Tire Pressure monitoring system module: This message has been edited by spoons on 04-13-2010 at 06:13 PM
idive	Thanks for the info Brian. It's good to know there are folks on here that know things like this.
dadskat	well, you certainly have your finger on the pulse of things! you are in-the-know for sure. thanx again for all your feedback and i will post the outcome. thanx, danny
spoons	Danny, Glad we could help. I hope to meet you at one of the Florida Prowler events.
condor	--- I throwed this not well working system out and disconnected the bulb in the dashboard. - If you are used to drive classic cars, the tpm is not a importend part in a car . . . This message has been edited by condor on 04-15-2010 at 02:51 PM
dadskat	suprise outcome all! i printed out the sensor pics you posted and took them to a tire dealer to show and explain. he told me he will order the tire valve "rebuild" kit ($5)just as a precaution which he did. i rolled out of there this afternoon with the valve repaired and not leaking (1/2 hr). i went directly to the chrysler dealer that took my money to order the new sensor and showed him the $20 receipt for the tire valve repair and told him that i guess his guy had mis-diagnosed the problem. with no defense he just walked me to the cashier who promptly did a credit to my visa! i will be sure to come to this discussion board prior to paying next time. thanx again for everyones info! and yes, i look foward to meeting at a local meet in our area sometime. enjoy, danny
idive	Just FYI... I was watching Judge Millian on tv last night and they had a case I thought was interesting reguarding wheels and TPMS. Some guy bought some chrome wheels online and mounted his own TPMS system in the wheels. In a short time, he ended up getting rust around the lug bolts, on the lug nuts, around the valve stem, and the chrome started peeling. He tried to get his money back under warranty and was told that not all wheels are TPMS capable, and his were not capable of having TPMS. Appearantly the dissimilar metals caused the rust and peeling. When looking in a catalogue of wheels I have noticed some indicated no TPMS. Now I know why.
spoons	Most TPS are made of stainless steel which has galvanic reaction with aluminum (wheel)