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larrypen	I received the Wonder Bar about a week ago and just found the time to install it ( nice Power coating and machining )........ I love my Prowler! Robyn and I just put 3600 miles on it going to TX from Va. and back. I like the way the Kat drives and handles. I was kind of wondering if a 60% increase in handling and comfort was possible ( Alley Cat) with just changing the stabilizer bar. AC was very up front about matters and I took him at his word..... LARRY LORD YOU ARE THE MAN..... That is the best modification for handling and comfort you could ever put on your Prowler. It handles so different, so SMOOTH. No more teeth ratteling bumps. In a tight turn you feel like you have that much more control.. Larry you need to go ahead and make 500-600 WONDER BARS because once the word is out, Stand by. If you are on the Fence on this one, GET IT!!! I got no A.. to kiss and no ax to grind. One Great product A+++++++++ Larrypen stamp of approval LOL Larry:driving
ed monahan	Larry, what year is your cat?
ALLEY CAT	Ed - I think Larry's cat is a 2000? Sky Diver - Just now heard the message you left on our cell phone voice mail,,,,,,glad you are highly satisfied and I'm sure L Lord will be glad to hear of your report as well. One question: You say above that you have no as$ to kiss? To refresh your memory,,,,,Robyn told me you 'have' to kiss her's all the time ------------------ Call 911 - there is a Prowler in my garage.... Y2K Silver Millennium Edition and '01 Orange Rolex Edition LARRY SALZMAN - MESA, ARIZONA
davidjhunter	I have been watching the post about the wonderbar, How long to install? have to make any modifications, or is it off with the old and on with the new? Head Hunter (HH)
ed monahan	HH, it is take the old one off and put the new one on. No modifications needed. They said about an hour for the average guy. I am below average so I plan on a couple of hours, AT LEAST. lol
davidjhunter	Thanks Ed, I hope to meet you some day, always enjoy your post for information and humor. Got to say I gave you a mini rub on a post reply to dooboy about buying a Kat. HH
ed monahan	HHH, are you related to Huber H. Humprey? I dish out a bit of crap so I certainly can take a little. Just so you know, I am Alley Cat's Idol. lol.
GenoTex	And before Ed, he admired Billy Carter.
larrypen	In response to Ed post I have a 2000 time to install approx 2 hrs +/- 30 mins.. Go get the Bar...... And by the way AC what a sweet As$ it is.. HE-HE!!!!. Uncle Larry
CTProwler	My Prowler Tech took his time and it was done in under 45 minutes. Just take the old one off and replace with Wonder bar.I don't have a lift so i didn't bother with it myself. Its a lot easier with a lift. My kat does ride smoother, but 60% improvement? I'm not so sure. Good well made product better then stock ride. ------------------
ALLEY CAT	CT - in all fairness, I believe the appox. % of improved ride suggested that the 1997 and 1999 cats could feel up to the higher amount figure. All that said, I'd say my cat has a 50% ride improvement. Results may vary,,,,depending on the year of the cat, which front shocks it has, tire air pressures, and whether one might have other aftermarket suspension braces installed.
CTProwler	2002 Upper Brace installed. Its better but i'm waiting to see when barb rides in it if she notices a difference. Its got to help, the stock one was so thick it had no give to it. I haven't hit a bump yet with just one tire? I'll try it to see how much it helps.I'm sure on my long drive to canada it will be a lot smoother. ------------------ This message has been edited by CTProwler on 07-17-2004 at 03:57 PM
ed monahan	Geno, that was one of the funnier lines I have read lately. He liked Billy Carter because of his high class beer, by the way.
Larry Lord	Wow Larrypen! That was quite a report. I'm happy you like the Wonder Bar as much as I do. I've had nothing but good comments so far but your is the best yet. Thanks for taking the time to make your post. My second batch of Wonder Bars (New and Improved) are finished at the heat treater and will go into the paint shop on Monday. I'm hoping to be able to ship them by the end of next week if all goes well.
dooboy	newbie here: what are wonder bars? what do they do? where do i get some & how much? a bit off topic, but what are shimmers? thanks
Larry Lord	The Wonder bar is an aftermarket suspension item that I manufacture and sell. Wonder Bars make a huge difference in softening the ride of your Prowler and at the same time help it handle the corners. The Wonder Bar front stabilizer bar has less torsional strength than the stock stabilizer bar. By utilizing a smaller diameter and hollow tube, the Wonder Bar allows your front wheels to operarate more independantly. You will have a noticable difference over rough road surfaces or when one wheel hits a pothole or bump. Your effective spring rates are not compromised for straight line driving but are lessened while one wheel reacts independantly of the other or during cornering or over bumps. You will notice a very slight increase in body roll during hard cornering but will also notice a marked increase in front traction. If you doubt my words,,,just wait to see the responses that will be posted after the first 20 Wonder Bars are installed and driven. You will wish that you were one of the first to order. Wonder Bar information ------------------ Larry (Cruise Control) Lord Larry@FMBbox.com Products for your Prowler and Trailer: Wonder Bar Stabilizer Bars - Upright Trailer Storage Stands - Deck Lid Hinge Protectors - Trailer Latch Reinforcement Kits - KatRack Stowable Cargo Carriers - Pro-Strap Velcro Tie Straps - Keyed Alike Chrome Coupler Locksets - Logo Caps - Chrome Receiver Locks - Chrome Coupler Locks FMB Prowler Products. This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 07-16-2004 at 06:01 PM
Want one	I'm interested in improving the ride however one question comes to mind that I have not seen addressed. With the smaller diameter and the increased "flex" what does that do to the frame welds ?
Larry Lord	quote: Originally posted by Want one: I'm interested in improving the ride however one question comes to mind that I have not seen addressed. With the smaller diameter and the increased "flex" what does that do to the frame welds ? A Wonder Bar will actually lessen the stress on the frame by allowing your suspension to do the work instead of forcing your frame to flex. ******************************************************* I just realized that maybe you are confusing the Wonder Bar with braces made by other vendors. A brace is just that, a brace to help keep your frame from flexing. A Wonder Bar is a direct bolt-in replacement for your front stabilizer bar. Stabilizer bars are also often referred to as anti-roll bars or sway bars and are an integral part of you car's suspension. This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 07-16-2004 at 08:06 PM
Larry Lord	Now highjacking my threads from 20 years ago. Too bad that you couldn't come up with your own product instead of stealing mine. I started producing my Wonder Bars nearly 20 years ago. Thieves and copy cats don't sit well with me. My products are the first and only. Made in the USA.