posted 06-02-2021 08:58 AM                  

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Originally posted by A2H:
That's really nice. I also just upgraded the headlights to LED (i followed your advice on which brand to use).

For the dash lights: how hard is it to replace them and if not something really hard, where did you buy the bulbs and how many do you need ? Also, are the Cool Blues the same color as original or are they different ?

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The dash light is easy to replace but takes about an hour. Buy any T10 LED bulbs on Amazon. I used Cool Blue which is a bit lighter and brighter. You will need 6 of them.
1. Pop off the dash ( search in here, there is good instruction and pics)
2. Takes all screws out and remove the cluster
3. Remove both connectors which is a bit of a pain because of the wire bundles are short. Be careful, the one on the left side, there is a tab on the top of the connector lift up a little bit and pull the connector out. As for the right side, the tabs are on both side)
4. Once remove the cluster is out, there are 5 bulbs just twist counter clockwise and replace with T10 LED, the 6th bulb is under the edge of top board so you need to take the top board out in order to pull it. They polarity so don't button everything just yet. Temp hook up the cluster and turn on the light and mark which one is not light up, pull the one not lighted and switch polarity.
5. Button it up and your are done.
Sounds long and difficult but really aren't. I am a doctor and I don't have much mechanical skill and able to do it in an hour so can you.

posted 06-28-2021 01:48 PM                  

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Originally posted by tbonelynch:
I like the cool blue dash lights. Would look good in the Mulholland Blue dashboard. Do they dim with the knob? Also, what brand headlamps did you buy? There are so many different manufactures, and some are good in one car, but not in another. All of the car's headlights are shaped differently and the reflectors react differently to the placement of the LED's on the shaft of the bulb. Reading the comments on Amazon will confuse you. Just wanted to know your opinion on the ones that you bought. Thanks for sharing.

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posted 07-08-2021 09:05 AM                  

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
Thanks for that info. I just ordered 8 bulbs.
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I ordered these as well. They look like a quality, well put together light. Easy installation and they really look great.

I'll admit, I am a little gun shy because I'm scared of the heat these will put off. They have built-in fans which is great, but I've still heard some horror stories of LED's melting wiring harnesses.

Thoughts?

posted 07-08-2021 09:44 AM                  

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Originally posted by SteelCityProwler:
I ordered these as well. They look like a quality, well put together light. Easy installation and they really look great.

I'll admit, I am a little gun shy because I'm scared of the heat these will put off. They have built-in fans which is great, but I've still heard some horror stories of LED's melting wiring harnesses.

Thoughts?

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posted 07-19-2021 09:06 AM                  

Brian

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
After dark I discovered I need to align my lights a bit, especially the passenger side. They are a whole lot brighter for sure. No one flashed their lights at me, but I wasn't in much traffic. So I guess they are not obnoxious.

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posted 07-19-2021 01:50 PM                  

Brian

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
I really haven't driven it at night. In the garage it is really a totally diff. look. I tried adjusting it in the garage and I think I have it now.
What are the little white square pieces of (tape?) for? I need to re-read the instructions before I do the next one to see what I missed.

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posted 08-03-2021 07:25 PM                  

My concern being with the Prowler like others is the amount of heat the LED's put out even with the built in cooling fan. 15,000 LMs has to be generating a lot of heat. Thinking they are enclosed housings so just blowing hot air around? But hopeful they'll work okay and giving them a try.

20 years ago I upgraded the bulbs in the Prowler and melted my wiring harness so very leery about trying something new.

So I realize its only been a matter of weeks since some of you have installed this same ZonCar LED bulbs and may not have much night driving time in yet, but my question for others here that are running the same lamp, have you had any issues yet?

Unless you smell melting plastic you may not know there is an issue unless you open the housing and check your harness and plug connections for damage before a complete melt down.

Fortunately the headlamps had a short pigtail that melted and not the entire harness and was a fairly easy fix 20 some years ago. May not be so easy to find those pigtails now days.

So my other concern with the LED's and the projector housings is the clocking of the bulb. Does it matter in a projector housing that has a dome type reflector? They suggest clocking at 3 and 9 o'clock, plus aiming not to blind the other guy.

In my Ram they were not adjustable and installed at 12 and 6 o'clock in the projector housing. After a ton of research and height adjustment they appear to have a normal uniform beam pattern with an even cut-off line. They light up the road nicely with a good throw and no one has flashed me. Hoping for the same with the Prowler's projector housings.

Any feedback on the wiring harness issues as time progresses with your new bulbs or clocking thoughts with LED's in a projector housing appreciated. Thanks!

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Prowl-On...

posted 08-07-2021 03:01 AM                  

I had high hopes for these lamps based on the many positive reviews and believing that the technology had came a long way in the past 20 years as well.

The specs are impressive, and they look great on paper.
Advertised as compact size 1:1Halogen Replacement Kit, Plug and Play, Can-bus ready, built-in Driver, and have a 12,000 rpm "turbo cooling fan", with 15,000 LM, 42-watt output, and 6500K Xeon White light spectrum.

What's not to like? They are awesome, bright white and really give a modern updated look to the Prowler. The before and after comparison is night and day. I was loving them.

As previously mentioned, I installed these in my 2016 Ram Sport projector headlights a couple of weeks ago as well. 9005's in both low and high beams. Look great and the high beams are awesome on dark country roads. The great specs and compact size being the attractive features for the Ram, being able to fit them under the dust covers with no modifications, plug and play is great. Finally a bulb that fits.

Now I'm concerned about those as well. Like the Prowler, the Ram has sealed projector beam housings with no ventilation. But the lamps have the turbo cooling fans and should be fine?? Will maybe, I'm still monitoring them.

So, here's my experience with the Prowler after the installation last night. I installed these in the low beams only and was quite impressed with the difference and the look. Awesome I'm thinking. I do a brief check on the garage door for beam pattern and height adjustment. It appears a touch high but anxious to road test and decided to drive around the Lake. Less than 2 miles. I had idled in the driveway for about 5 minutes and stopped at the park for some quick photos, idling another 5, and back to the garage. Before calling it a night I feel the tops of the headlight housings. Wholly crap, the top painted surfaces of the housings are piping hot. Not just warm but uncomfortably hot. I pop the hood and feel around checking for temperature and heat dissipation. The black headlight covers are extremely hot above the low beam bulb locations and the covers screw heads are nearly burning hot to the touch!

I expected some heat as normal with the Prowler, but my alarm bells are going off as "not good" and uncomfortably warm for such a short test drive. Maybe they would be fine long term, but my common sense is telling me to remove these hot puppies before any damage occurs. Thinking a longer drive down the Interstate could lead to a disastrous meltdown!

I don't do much night driving so I'll leave them in a while longer and reassess them, but pretty sure they have to go, or move them over to the high beams.

Also, on the Prowler low-beams, what I thought to be aimed a little high on the garage door was actually disappointing output on the road. Only a couple of car lengths illuminated ahead with the feeling they were aimed too low. I will experiment with aiming but thought they were dialed in pretty close.

I did like the cool blue led dash lights and followed suit. Very cool look. Quite a process getting to them, but doable with some patience and finesse. The tachometer took a special bulb and the foot wells illuminating cool blue add a nice touch.

For now, as much as I love the look of these LED headlights, I would not recommend them for the Prowler.

Also, important to note ZonCar's fitment guide for the Prowler are for high beams only on Amazon's site. Same for the Ram.

Maybe some LED's with less wattage and lumens wouldn't get so hot, otherwise back to some premium halogens soon.
Prowl on!