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d'niro

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posted 12-08-2009 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for d'niro     send a private message to d'niro   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by d'niro
Just saw a post from catfish regarding rear rotors (general section) short on stock and no more will be made -If I understand checkly there is no aftermarket replacement for the kat's rear rotors??? What is it about the current rear rotors that makes them so different??? Is there an aftermarket rear rotor for the kat???

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posted 12-08-2009 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pantera     send a private message to Pantera   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Pantera
I believe the parking brake drum is an integral part of the rear rotor.....

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What makes them so different? The material. Are there after market replacements? yes. Do a search for a post by Waynew
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posted 12-08-2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
whats special,they are a aluminum composite,and there is a smaller inside ,like a drum brake which is the parking brake.there are no a/m rr rotors available and most likely will never be due to the low production numbers and the expense to manufacture them.aint going to happen.

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posted 12-08-2009 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idive     send a private message to idive   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by idive
Tell that to Waynew, who has already purchased aftermarket rotors and put them on his car and has had them in use for over a year or two. Maybe you know something he doesn't.
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I did a search and found a post were Waynew said he COULD NOT find aftermarket rotors. Am I missing something?
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posted 12-08-2009 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
idive,if he has a/m rr rotors on his car maybe you can find out,where he bought them,how much and a part #.

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Ok, after searching for Wayne's post, you're right. Sounds like he got the stock rotors. My mistake. Sorry Jan, et al.
I remembered him getting something new on the rear and thought for sure it was the rotors, but it was ceramic pads. I'll email him and confirm the rotors are stock and ask for an update on compatibility of the pads and rotors.
Sorry again gang. I'm getting old and senile, and my mind isn't working as reliable as it use to. What can I say?

This message has been edited by idive on 12-09-2009 at 01:55 AM

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So - does this mean that the rear rotors for the kat is unique, unlike any other vehicle rotors past or present??

So - if the rear rotors gets damage and there's none on stock and no aftermarket replacement - then all I have is a beautiful car that can't be driven, right.

So what other parts are unique on the Prowler??

- Radiator hose upper/lower
- Rear rotors

any other parts???

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posted 12-09-2009 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
The radiator hoses are NOT unique. Catfish just posted the numbers a couple of days ago.
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Does anyone know the actual alloy or composite that the rear rotors are made from?
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Originally posted by ed monahan:
The radiator hoses are NOT unique. Catfish just posted the numbers a couple of days ago.

Ed I think they are Prowler only hoses. The numbers catfish posted was the upper that is still some in stock and the lower from something else that you could cut to make fit. That's why they were trying to get someone to make them, which they did.

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the prowler rr rotors are prowler only.yep when there gone there gone and if you cant get used or new your screwed.as a last resort,the rear brakes dont really do alot.you might find another mopar product close,but may not have the same ebrake or bolt pattern.you could do w/out the ebrake if you had to.----------------the reason i posted about the rotors is if youre keeping your car and down the road,not i17-you may want to aquire a set while they still have some,if you dont use them you can always resell them,most likely for more than you pd.

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This message has been edited by catfish on 12-09-2009 at 11:58 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Controldave:
Does anyone know the actual alloy or composite that the rear rotors are made from?

They are an Aluminum Ceramic composite...

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Just a question(s)? When was the last time anyone actually replaced rear brake rotors on any other type vehicle? Is it so common that we need to worry ourselves with this or does anyone have proof of driving a Prowler over 100k miles without ever replacing their rear rotors? Why can't these rear rotors be turned down (per Catfish)....just curious as to the reason? Are the rear rotors on all vehicles a harder durometer/composition than front rotors?

I ask these questions out of ignorance and thinking that I may never put 100k miles on my Prowler. In most cases, the front brakes perform most of the stopping on a vehicle, whereas, way more common having to turn down the rotors, replacing pads and then eventually the rotors on the front.

PS......also, we will NOW be able to order upper and lower radiator hoses WITHOUT a minimum order requirement come February 2010. Confirmation of this can be seen in the Reproduction Parts Forum in my reply post dated on 12.9.09. Catfish......your off the hook man....you won't have to order a hundred hoses now...lol! http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum21/HTML/000009-2.html#44

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You won't need to replace the rotor if you make sure to watch the rear brake pad wear. The inside pad wears much more quickly than the outer pad. If you score the rotor, you have a problem.
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Just because someone tells you not to doesn't mean that it can't be done. Normal brake lathe tools aren't hard enough the properly machine the surface of the rear rotors. With the proper tool and careful work it has been done. The minimum thickness is posted to ensure safety and avoid law suits.

Hot rodding has always been about finding alternative ways of keeping vehicles on the road.

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posted 12-09-2009 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
quote:
Originally posted by garysss:
Ed I think they are Prowler only hoses. The numbers catfish posted was the upper that is still some in stock and the lower from something else that you could cut to make fit. That's why they were trying to get someone to make them, which they did.

I don't think he posted a Mopar number, just a regular hose number available at part stores. The lower needs to be altered but the upper sounds like it is a direct replacement. I could be mistaken, however.


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Not sure,,,,think those #'s posted for the radiator hoses were NAPA Auto Parts numbers, OR Gates Rubber Co. numbers?

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gates numbers,my rotors have 120.000 on them and have developed cracks and should most likely be replaced.i made a mistak and wont do that again,that is trying to in form people about whats out there.why dont you read all the posts on rr rotors broake its all there.

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You won't need to replace the rotor if you make sure to watch the rear brake pad wear. The inside pad wears much more quickly than the outer pad. If you score the rotor, you have a problem.

Ed
I agree with you.
As I have mentioned before, what I have done is pulled my front & rear calipers off, wire brushed $ cleaned the mounting bolts, then used never seize on them, if your calipers can't float in & out to center themselves they will bind causing premature rotor wear usually to the inside of the rotor where you can't see it

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my stock rear pads had no squeal bars that could have warned me whe the pads were getting worn, I wonder if DC did this so they could sell some rotors down the road...
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Catfish: Don't get so worried about what other people say, please keep posting things about low numbered items. Because of you I ordered a set of rotors today from mike, your right better to be safe and have a pair of them, then sorry, just for interest of everyone else, I was told 22 rotors left.
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posted 12-10-2009 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Mike Mulkins in Colo, mention the POA.
303-384-4567
part number 4815 750
retail is $ 509 each and he is selling them to us at
$ 335.50 each plus shipping.
About 10 left in stock.

I called the local dealer and he told me $ 509. Mike M told me retail is $ 509, also.

If you are thinking about it, you had better quit thinking. Mine are not being bought for resale. I wouldn't have bought two of them if there wasn't a run on them. There won't be any left in stock and it will turn into what is happening with other parts NORTH of us here in OHIO.

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