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moorevisual Prowler Enthusiast From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 07:11 PM
    
i was just out driving my kat. I noticed that it seemed to be downshifting very hard. Then the trans. light came on. It seems to be stuck in 2nd, or 2nd is the highest it will shift. I took a chance and drove it home very slowly since i was right down the street. immediately checked the fluid. seemed to be normal, did have a little black residue on the napkin when i wiped the stick, but mostly red. PLEASE HELP!! dear God, I hope it's not serious. Any advice is appreciated. PLease reply or email me: jasonmoore@tmail.com |
blackcat  POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 07:18 PM
The cats go into 'limp mode' if they sense a problem in order to prevent damage. I'd be willing to bet it is the sensor. It's the weak link. Do a search on this site and I'm sure you'll find it. This message has been edited by blackcat on 09-02-2004 at 07:18 PM |
jd2ksilver    POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 09-02-2004 07:19 PM
Disconnect your negative cable on your battery, wait 15 min. then reconnect. Replace your input and output sensors on the tranny. One question, tranny light? you mean check light right? This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 09-02-2004 at 07:19 PM |
catfish           POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 09-02-2004 07:29 PM
jd,i was going to say the same thing,tranny lite,must be a new option. ------------------ |
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moorevisual Prowler Enthusiast From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 07:55 PM
yes, sorry check engine light. in my panic, i wasn;t thinking straight! i was so freaked out i posted before i searched. looks like it's the input sensor. i'm going to get a 1" deep socket right now so i can replace tomorrow |
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blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-02-2004 08:03 PM
I would recommend that you first try the suggestion JD made then go for the sensor...... |
dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 09-03-2004 12:20 AM
The plastic thermal characteristics are not as good as the brass ones were. If your tranny goes into limp mode, engine light comes on but the speedo still works? Answer: The input sensor (Part#04800878) on the 42LE Prowler tranny has malfunctioned. If your tranny goes into limp mode, engine light comes on and the speedo doesn't work? Answer: The output sensor (Part# 04800879) on the 42LE Prowler tranny has malfunctioned. ------------------ |
ed monahan      POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-03-2004 01:14 AM
Well, I replaced the input sensor just now. The input sensor is on the driver's side of the tranny, closer to the front of the car than the output sensor, which is also on the driver's side of the tranny. There is a transmission fluid line that is kind of in the way so if you are carrying an extra input sensor and a 1 inch DEEP socket, you may also need a short extension and/or a swivel head or U-joint ratchet to make the job a little easier. The output sensor could probably be changed with an open end wrench. It is very easy to get to. Both parts look pretty much the same on the part you can see when installed. The interior part that gets screwed into the tranny is a lot different. If the speedometer still works, it is the front one, the input sensor. NAPA part TSS 200. If the speedometer does not work, it is the rear one, the output sensor and you can probably do it with an open end wrench. NAPA part TSS 100. The only new info is the fact you might want to have a swivel ratchet or U-joint and a short extension. That was what I posted about a month ago when my input sensor went south. |
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dpena POA Site Supporter Administrating Kat Visit Dan's Prowler Excitement Personal ScrapBook From:San Jose Ca Santa Clara |
posted 09-03-2004 03:02 AM
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GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 09-03-2004 03:13 AM
$$$ on the sensors please? Guess I oughta start carryin' these two lil suckers |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 09-03-2004 06:47 AM
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Marty This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 09-03-2004 at 06:49 AM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-03-2004 07:08 AM
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About $12 each |
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moorevisual Prowler Enthusiast From:atlanta, ga |
posted 09-03-2004 09:06 AM
thought i was going to have to go to NAPA, but when i went to autozone to get a 1" deep socket and they had the sensor in stock. it was $21.99. back out prowlin' today! thanks for the help everybody! |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-03-2004 01:34 PM
oops... I'm wrong AGAIN! This message has been edited by idive on 09-03-2004 at 11:59 PM |
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ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-03-2004 10:06 PM
They are only a couple of inches apart. I think that is the input sensor since the tranny lines look to be in the way. |
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GenoTex POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Oakfield, WI, USA |
posted 09-04-2004 02:56 AM
Thx AC/Marty  On order as of first thing in the mornin' |
NeverBland Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 12-18-2006 08:14 PM
Ok, I need help. Last night car stuck in 2nd gear... looked up this thread and since the speedo was still working, I figured it's the input sensor. Went to napa this afternoon and got both sensors just to be safe. Had them swapped out and the car ran ok for a few minutes, then it came back, stuck in 2nd... I then tried disconnecting the battery for 30 minutes.. it reset, went for a quick drive, shifted a few times, then stuck in 2nd again. What do I do now??? Car will shift a few gears when I turn it on, then will get stuck in 2nd after a few minutes... PLEASE HELP, daily driver! Thanks |
MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 12-18-2006 10:12 PM
Is your volt guage reading 13-14 volts. When my alternator pulley went up my tranny went into limp mode when the battery votage dropped to 10 volts. |
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NeverBland Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 12-19-2006 01:10 AM
Volt gauge reading 14.. seems kinda high... Went to autozone tonight, they looked up the codes: P0733: The PCM has detected an incorrect gear ratio condition in 3rd gear. P0734: The PCM has detected an incorrect gear ratio condition in 4th gear. P0700: THe PCM has recieved a signal to turn on the "malfunction indicator lamp" from the transmission control system. (Refer to the transmission repair manual). So those are the 3 codes, sound kinda wierd, but explains why it shifter to 3rd~4th for a quick while and then kicked down to 2nd (I think) Anyone have the transmission repair manual? Will be taking it to a trans shop in the morning. Wish me luck..... Any and all help is appreciated. |
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MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 12-19-2006 06:00 AM
Probably the tranny controller and not the tranny. |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 12-19-2006 05:37 PM
quote:Sounds consistent with a bad transmission sensor. If EITHER the input or output sensor fails, the ratio will be off and could explain the gear ratio condition (for instance, if it's looking for a 2:1 ratio and one sensor is out, you'll get 2:0 (infinity); if the other is out, you'll get 0:1 (zero). Either way, it's seen as an apparent gear ratio error. |
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NeverBland Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 12-20-2006 08:09 PM
Took it to a trans shop, they said it needs a rebuild. Can they tell that a gear or clutch is gone without dissassembly? The car has 65K miles on it, a little early for a rebuild, no? They said they have problems on average 80K miles but can break down faster if the car was ridden hard... How much should a rebuild cost? please help, no warantee... |
Howard POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Valencia, CA, USA |
posted 12-20-2006 08:18 PM
Before you spend thousands on a rebuilt transmission, get a second opinion. I would take the car to a Chrysler dealer and let them do an analysis of the transmission. Maybe they will charge you one hour labor which will be less than $100.00. You might not need a rebuilt transmission.
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MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 12-20-2006 08:36 PM
If you do end up needing a rebuild, find a shop that sells Jasper transmissions. They come with a 75,000 mile warranty and if they fail they will swap it out for another. Jaspers are all we use for our work vans and did have one go up once. Swapped out no problem. |
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GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 12-20-2006 08:53 PM
quote:Was that after you changed the 2 sensors? For $30-40 bucks in spare parts that you should have on hand anyway, that should be your first step. |
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