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mcrealty

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Here is my lastest research on possible tires for our cats. Does anyone have thoughts, suggestions, or comments?

The BF Goodrich KDW 2 have an interesting tread pattern.

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Note that the 20" Cooper tires are 30.66 in high. On my car when the body lifts away fromthe tires it rubs on the frame in FRONT of the tire. If you grind the top edgeof the horizontal piece of the frame about 1/8 of an inch, it doesn't rub but maybe one time a week in an extreme case.
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Mac - I have always liked the BF Goodrich Comp T/A's

JMO

The Kumhos look nice also.

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I also like the BFGoodrich Comp T/A ZR SSS, but if you look at the tread width it is 1.2" smaller than the OEM tire. This would not give the appearance of filling in the wheel well and this is the problem I have with the Dunlop. The Comp's would even be smaller. I wish I could get the tread width for the G-force KDW 2 - the tread pattern kind of looks like flames.
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Thanks for the info. Valuable stuff.

I have the Goodrich TA's on now for about 23k. After the first 7K or so they seemed to get very hard, the backs don't grip at all it seems. Being as I have not had a flat in since the first 10K of the car, (59K now), I think I am going to go without runflats for a smoother ride, and maybe better grip.
Thanks again, good stuff.

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Also, a preliminary search on Falken tires, came up with this.
http://www.falkentire.com/tires/suv_choose.htm

granted, for light truck duty, but kind of cool pattern, but not completely sure they will fit yet. When I emailed them they replied they did not have a replacement for the Prowler tires.

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John - as I sated above. 30.66 diameter on my Coopers. DO NOT GO ANY LARGER. I can not stress that enough. They won't fit. I am happy with them (light truck tires also) but wish they were 30.4.

I went with 45 aspect to get a little better ride.

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Yeah I saw that Marty. They have one 30.6 inches tall. I was hoping to find a bit smaller, still looking.
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John- 295/45/20 Luxury Sport oneis 30.4" ht. The 9.8 tread width is same as Dunlop SP9000's.

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This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 02-14-2004 at 05:04 PM

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has anyone with mudflaps installed ever had a flat on the front tires? do they drag?

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Who or what is Kuxury Sport?
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I had a blow out on the front tire almost three years ago with the run flat. Don't remember any drag from the mud flap. Drove it about 20 miles on it.
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quote:
Originally posted by mcrealty:
Who or what is Kuxury Sport?

Sorry - my typing is almost as bad as fixumm's spelling. In JD's link about Falken Tires one line of tires in referred to as the Luxury Sport. I edited my earlier post to correct the typo.

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Has anyone ever tried the Pirelli Scorpion Zero. They look awesome and I have had great luck with them on my Harley truck.

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There's another one. Lots of them. Someone also mentioned to me Yoko_____ (sp)
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quote:
Originally posted by jd2ksilver:
Thanks for the info. Valuable stuff.

I have the Goodrich TA's on now for about 23k. After the first 7K or so they seemed to get very hard, the backs don't grip at all it seems. Being as I have not had a flat in since the first 10K of the car, (59K now), I think I am going to go without runflats for a smoother ride, and maybe better grip.
Thanks again, good stuff.


I still have OEM tires..I thought they gripped like crap after 5K miles..then realized the pressure dropped with outside temps. Did you check tire pressure? I beleive underinflated tires that are run flats have much less grip as the hard sidewalls are the only part making contact with pavement.

...So what would be the best replacemnt tire (runflat or not) that filles the wheel well as nice as the OEM tires? I would like to get other than Goodyear tires.

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I know Marty stated 305/45/20 Cooper's he put on where a little to big - so I was sure 295/45/20 BF Goodrichs would fit. I was wrong.
Any suggestions Marty?

Mind this was with the car on the lift.

This is the car on the ground.

My concern is on a hard corner. I if the tire makes contact with the frame it may stop the tire.
God for bid if there was a little water on the road.
Does anyone have the allowable travel for the rear tires?


Couple of misc. shots.

This message has been edited by mcrealty on 02-20-2004 at 06:09 PM

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Cut the frame?
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Chris - with your experience in the wheel & tire industry what would be your thoughts on this issue? The tire only hits when it is on the lift. When this car corners, would tire ever travel far enough to hit the frame?
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I got Boyd Coddington Wheels , The "Harm Series"

http://www.billetwheel.com/wheels.html

and the BFG G-Force non-runflat tires.


When we tried the P'zeros in there
was a space problem on the rears I had the offset changed
on my new rears wheels to bring them out more...So We
called around and I decided the best for me was the the BFG
G-force "new tread" on the fronts and the "traditional" on
the back...(the BFG tech centre, they said the combination
would work great together, they were right)
I love the ride, not so hard and the handling on corners
is crisp and quick and I do love the look of the tread
on the front and the traction of the rears, and they fill
the back wheel-wells very nicely..


Their not noisy at all..soft compound, nice and
sticky love them in the corners
Would I do it again..in a word YES..

I got P225/145ZR17 BFG G-Force KDW 57359 on the front
and P295/40ZR20 BGF G-Force KDW 59160 on the rear
From the BFG website:

Incredible dry traction with unflappable wet weather
control. Long treadlife. Smooth, quiet ride. In sizes that
make it the perfect choice for most of today's hottest
sports coupes, sedans, and sport trucks.
Y-speed rated (up to 186 mph).

Sizes for most of today's hottest sport coupes and
sedans Exceptional dry and wet traction and handling
Long treadlife


Don

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disregard, I went and looked, nice tires.

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Northen Cat - what is the offset you used/what is the OEM offset?
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5 on 4.5 bolt pattern Front 17 x 7.5, 5.5 rear offset / backspace Rear 20 x 10, 6.25 rear offset / backspace

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quote:
Originally posted by mcrealty:
I know Marty stated 305/45/20 Cooper's he put on where a little to big - so I was sure 295/45/20 BF Goodrichs would fit. I was wrong.
Any suggestions Marty?

[B]Mind this was with the car on the lift.

This is the car on the ground.

My concern is on a hard corner. I if the tire makes contact with the frame it may stop the tire.
God for bid if there was a little water on the road.
Does anyone have the allowable travel for the rear tires?


Couple of misc. shots.

[/B]


Mine touch in the same place when the car is raised off the ground. When you hit a pot hole the frame compresses and the space actually gets wider. It is when you crest a rise and the body "lifts" higher, away from the wheel that the tire will rub. I ground down the top edge of the frame where it rubs at a 45 degree angle to lessen the contact area. In 8,000 miles of driving it has rubbed several times going over partricularly even overpasses or on an occasional bump but no loss of control when going straight. Once, and only once on a hard turn with banking, the tire rubbed and I could feel a twist in the steering wheel. I probably would feel it in all out driving like an Autocross with sharp turns, etc.

Marty

This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 02-22-2004 at 08:40 PM

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Note..

I had the offset changed on my new rears wheels to bring
them out more...So We called around and I decided the best
for me was the the BFG G-force "new tread" on the fronts
and the "traditional" on the back...(the BFG tech
centre, they said the combination would work great together, they were right)

P295/40ZR20 BGF G-Force KDW 59160 on the rear
no place issue with my rear tires

not 295/45/20 "new tread"
Don

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This message has been edited by Northern Cat on 02-22-2004 at 08:33 PM


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