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BeWare





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posted 07-03-2002 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
While at a cruise night a couple weeks ago I meet a new Prowler Owner with a red Kat. After the meet we were able to park our cars side by side and chat for awhile. We started talking about fender flaps (he did not have them) and this is when we noticed that the bottom edge of his front fenders were nearly two inches closer to the ground than mine. If he put un-trimmed flaps on his Kat the things would nearly be dragging the ground. Has anyone else noticed this being so variable from car to car? I believe I heard before the fenders could be adjusted to some extent, but I wasn't sure. I know that being hand built each one could be different. But two inches is allot.
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Rich can you remember how high the bottom of your fender is from the ground, would be interesting to compare ours also?? I'm going to check to see if they are ajustable seeing as mine are not on my Kat right now.

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Two inch difference seems like alot. The front fenders are adjustable. If I remember correctly, when I adjusted mine, all I did was loosen the bolts that connect the black arms from the fender to the brake knuckle and then adjust the fender forward or backward as needed. I think I moved my passenger side fender forward almost an inch to get it the same height as the driver side fender.

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I'm a new owner and decided to use three 2 inch vertical slits in my front flaps rather than trim. So far I haven't heard them scrape so I don't know if it's working. On the other hand, drove in the rain last night and found mud on the back fenders despite front and rear flaps. I guess there is only so much the mudflaps will accomplish.
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drove in the rain last night and found mud on the back fenders despite front and rear flaps. I guess there is only so much the mudflaps will accomplish.

My experience with rear mudflaps is same as yours. I get more splashed on my fenders than I did without them. However, the inside of the rear bumpers stay cleaner. THey do seem to make a marginal difference when towing the trailer and probably keep some rocks off of trailer.

If I ever decide to remove rear bumpers, I may choose to loose the flaps, too.

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Rich - I measured the distance from street to bottom of front fenders at lunchtime. Driver's side is 6 3/4", passenger side 6 1/2" The difference could be in road surface and I will check again on level garage floor.

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At least you guys can put your flaps on.... my left front didnt have the bracket/clip... and I'm still waiting for the factory rep to decide on new fender or glue a new clip... it's been 2 months.... But my fenders are within a 1/8 of an inch.

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Talking about rear mud flaps:

I drive GRROWL as much as weather permits (actually, more; unless it's raining, snowing or icy in the morning, which means 90%), so there are times that the roads are wet or muddy. I went for the full flaps, front and rear, to minimize the rocks (mostly from the front) and the water spray (that covered the rear trunk lid and fenders).

The full fronts work well.

The rears were basically useless.

This is what worked for me:

I installed a set of truck flaps (roughly 12"x12", from Trak Auto, about $10.00) by bolting them onto the Mopar rear flaps. Used 4 stainless-steel round-head bolts with lock-nuts on each (seem to remember they were 1/4" x 3/8").

They work. I think they look good. They're about the same width as the tires and add a more muscular stance.

Let me know what you think. If there's any real interest, I'll bribe my son into taking and posting a picture.

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My left front flap is 7 1/8 inches and right is 7 inches from the garage floor.

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The bottom of my left front fender is 7 1/8 inches and the right is 7 inches from the garage floor.

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My newest Orange had a 2 inch difference in fender height between right to left, it was all in adjustment.

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Hmmmmmmm.........interesting........will have to check on that!
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I went to my local machine shop and had them laser cut one inch off of each flap. this helped so much that I almost never drag on anything anymore. It is a rare incidence that I have a grinding sound. The nice thing about having the machine shop do it was that they both match from side to side. I know that I could cut one side, but getting it to match the other side would have not been one of my better qualities. Kinda like being able to pinstripe one side, but not being able to do the same on the other.
Also my local dealer told me that all of the flaps are depleted and either a few dealers are sitting on some or as with almost all of the other factory accessories have seen their day.

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C5 Frank,

DO NOT get a replacement fender! Go with gluing a tab or forgo that one clip. My passenger side fender came with too much glue and I opted for a new fender. What a mistake. The paint did not hold up at all (full of chips) and dealer would not stand by it. Keep your original factory fender but most importantly keep the Factory PAINT.

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When I trimmed mine and to get the flaps even on both sides. Before I trimmed them I laid one flap face down inside the other also face down and scribed a pencil line for the bottom contour of the flap. I then followed this line for the trim. Result each flap has the same bottom contour as before the trim and they are exact duplicates of each other.
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Chromer-

Having had some paintwork done recently, I checked out multiple local shops. Just about all of them, including dealers, advertise a lifetime guarantee on their work, including paint. Obviously, in a side-by-side comparison, their paint has failed.

My suggestion is to find out whether your dealer offers such a guarantee, and if so, get a copy of the written guarantee. Even if it specifically rules out chips, there is probably language that would support having it redone correctly. In my case, the shop that I used states,

"Recent technological advances enable (Shop Name) I-CAR trained and certified technicians, using state-of-the-art painting and repair techniques and equipment, to restore your vehicle to its pre-accident condition. . . . "All repairs performed by (Shop Name) are guaranteed for as long as you own the vehicle."

That sure seems to say that they guarantee their paintwork to be equal in quality to factory.

And after the horrendous experience I had in matching color (yellow), I absolutely agree with you - KEEP THE FACTORY PAINT WHENEVER NECESSARY.

- GRROWL

P.S. - Nobody is interested in talking about REAR mudflaps?

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Grrowl. I also have rear flaps installed. I did not until I painted my rear bumpers. I added them to protect the paint. Before that I did not consider installing them.
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Chromer and Grrowl

Thanks for the info. I'm not sure what I want to do. I'm sort of torn. But I ask the dealer to just glue the clip. But they said they have to get that ok'd. Typical dearler BS. We'll see....

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Just measured the fenders on our 01 and both are 7" above the ground. I was thinking that the changes in suspension might make a difference in height but I guess not.

As for the rear flaps, I first thought they would be of little use after seeing them. They have kept the trailer top and the rear deck cleaner. I do like the fact that they are almost completely hidden.
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k... Growl... I'll bite.... let's see those monster rear flaps ??

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pix pix pix pix of the monster flap!!
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Grrowl's mudflaps are cool! I saw 'em in person last week. I think I might get 'em too....as soon as I hot glue my damn center caps on...

If pic doesn't show.....go here to see pic.
http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?selected=69665

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sure are BIG
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butchee,
Let's not make a FLAP about it! (OMG)

Actually, they're 12" wide behind 12" tires. (You were referring to the flaps, weren't you?)

Thanks for posting the picture, BT.

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No sweat, GRROWL.... My pleasure to help out.

After my first drive in the rain, I now know what you were talking about!


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