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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-18-2002 06:14 PM
    
My husband works with a lot of engineers. I wanted him to look into a cure for moisture ridden headlights in the prowler. My husband got this acrylic anti-dust anti-fog spray. Here is my question. One of the Kats looks bad from spots in the headlights. Sassy |
ALLEY CAT                    POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 02-18-2002 08:46 PM
Sas - I know Jack, but couldn't you just silicone the lid that holds the gasket (headlight assembly lid) to prevent water or moisture from entering the assembly? |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-19-2002 07:25 AM
That is the last step we are doing. But I would like to clean inside them too. Looks bad with dried moisture drops. I have someone checking this out for me today. Thanks Alley Cat Sassy |
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Al's Prowler Prowler Junkie From:DeWitt, Mi |
posted 02-19-2002 07:54 AM
I've heard of the moister problem but being I really haven't driven my 02 yet I can't say if I'll have it, please let us know what the results are. Thanks, Al |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 02-19-2002 08:01 AM
I started getting moisture after washing the car. I did not seem to have the problem for the first 6 months that I owned it. ------------------ |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-19-2002 08:16 AM
Hi Ed I think the heat of the engine compartment breaks down the rubber gaskets and seals. I have someone working one this for me. My dealer just told me this morn he would replace them for me at no charge. That is fine, but I still would like to know what happens and a cure. My husband is looking into high heat gasket material for me. He thinks rebuilding the headlights might help. Anyway, we will do this sometime soon. I will document with photos and procedure that will help fellow members here if we find the answer. Sassy This message has been edited by SasyMama on 02-19-2002 at 08:17 AM |
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Kozican POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:HOUSTON,TEXAS |
posted 02-19-2002 01:54 PM
Sassy, Let me know on this. I've had 3 sets and the dealer wont replace them anymore.The set I have now is the worst of the three sets! They are HORRIBLE!!! If there's anything I really hate about my car, the headlamps would be it!!!! Don |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-19-2002 02:29 PM
We have a plan that may work. Thanks PS The one thing I hate about the car - moisture in headlamps too. This message has been edited by SasyMama on 02-19-2002 at 02:30 PM |
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Kozican POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:HOUSTON,TEXAS |
posted 02-19-2002 02:41 PM
Correction: the ONLY thing I hate about my car is the headlamps!!  Koz |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 02-19-2002 03:08 PM
Ironically, my headlights never fogged up in almost 2 years of ownership until I took it to the local dealer for service. Got the car back and they both fogged up after the first wash. Both of my headlights are being replaced right now. Has anyone thought of using a spray that divers use to keep their goggles from fogging up? I am going to check into it and when I get my car back on Friday, may try it out. ------------------ MTD Prowler Intake System 2.2 |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-19-2002 03:41 PM
Bill I have something like that. It's just you have to take out the insides out of the headlamps to clean the inside of the lens and the chrome reflector. Open one up. Your good at that. See if you can gut one and get to the reflector. I was told it comes out completely. Sassy This message has been edited by SasyMama on 02-19-2002 at 03:42 PM |
blackcat POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:atlanta, ga |
posted 02-19-2002 05:29 PM
Doesn't anyone here think that Chrysler should fix their defective parts? My Dodge Intrepid has the same problem.... and add my Prowler to the list. ------------------  This message has been edited by blackcat on 02-19-2002 at 05:32 PM |
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WPG Prowler Junkie From:Orlando, Florida |
posted 02-23-2002 10:23 AM
I just got back from having my headlights replaced and while driving back, drove through a monsoon. Once again, one of my new headlights fogged up. My tech told me of how to remove the moisture by pulling the plugs at the top of the headlight compartments. I did this last night and the moisture was gone by this morning. I looked closely and didn't see any residue left by moisture. This doesn't prevent the problem but helps emlinate it. I have an idea how how to better seal the light compartments and will work on it when I get a chance. ------------------ MTD Prowler Intake System 2.2 This message has been edited by William Gallagher on 02-23-2002 at 10:24 AM |
CWatsonJr POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Pollock Pines, CA, USA |
posted 02-23-2002 10:34 AM
My tech told me there was a TSB put out on this not to replace the lamps anymore - that it wasn't a defect? I never had the problem until I got my car back from being flamed - apparently one of them had fogged up while there and now there are spots on the inside of the glass. I can't have them replaced because then I would have to have them repainted. BTW - the lamps have not fogged up since I have had them home - go figure! ------------------ |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 02-23-2002 10:59 AM
My headlights fog up all the time. Even on damp but otherwise clear evenings. I think this problem is more common in areas with high humidity. ------------------
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01Prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, TX |
posted 02-23-2002 11:25 AM
You want to know what's funny.... I took me left headlamp asssembly off the car... You have to open it to do this. And since I have putten it back together it has never fogged up again. However the passenger side fogs up badly. I guess I need to take that one off now, and put it back together, and on the car. I don't know what I did differently but I guess it worked on the other side. ------------------ |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 02-23-2002 11:31 AM
Hey Rich - mine don't fog up at all!  Marty ------------------  Driving my Dream |
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Daryl Prowler Junkie From:Pittsburgh, PA, USA |
posted 02-23-2002 03:07 PM
Whenever they replace the headlight assembly, does that include the painted area around the headlight, or is it just the lens unit itself? If it's the whole entire piece, including the body panel the light is in, that would explain why my one replaced headlamp has horrible swirl marks in the surrounding area. |
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Daryl Prowler Junkie From:Pittsburgh, PA, USA |
posted 02-23-2002 03:15 PM
Also, if it does include the painted area around the headlight, does it came painted from the factory, or does the dealer spray it? I'd swear they the one headlamp looks a different shade of black. |
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CWatsonJr POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Pollock Pines, CA, USA |
posted 02-23-2002 05:18 PM
Daryl - they come painted from the factory. If you look at the body panels you can see the whole headlight assembly. ------------------ |
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BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 02-24-2002 10:37 AM
Marty, it's about time you updated your banner with the new look. Way cool dude. |
jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 02-24-2002 12:01 PM
Has someone taken the time to remove the headlight assembly from the car and look at it?? You will find it a three piece set up. with a engine compartment side to it also if you will. Its not just the top gasket that can cause leaks. Take if off the car and look around it to the other set of screws. I'm betting there is a problem there too. I had mine replaced about 6 months ago. I've had the top off of them for other work, no problem. I have noticed sometimes I get fogging about the size of a quarter at different times on one of them. I don't think the answer is to keep replacing them. It is fixing the ones you have. I have not read each post on this thread, so if someone has covered the third piece of the assembly, then, my bad,, But it is worth more looking into than just keeping replacing them IMO ------------------ This message has been edited by jd2ksilver on 02-24-2002 at 12:01 PM |
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SasyMama Prowler Junkie From:Lambertville, Mi, Monroe |
posted 02-24-2002 12:15 PM
JD In a few weeks we are taking an extra one completely apart to scratch. I am going to make, If I can additional gaskets and using some advanced sealants, hope to cure the problems? You are absolutely right. They need modification, not replacement. I am confident we can fix these. Will let all know and photo what is found thanks |
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jd2ksilver POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Mt. View, CA |
posted 04-07-2002 01:41 PM
Thought I would bring this back up to the top, as it has been awhile. Did anyone find a answer as yet? I have mine off for the umpteenth time for other work. Next step for me is to take it apart (screws and cutting the sealant away). I don't mean the top part, they also are two parts, side by side if you look at them off the car, and physically wiping the lens clear on the inside. I have found the two round, 3/8 inch caps on top are air breathers for the unit, and I suspect when the car is washed it gets in there. Anyway,, someone was going to have a answer, if so, please post.  ------------------ |
Mike Krehel POA Site Supporter The World's Quickest Prowler (11.65 sec) and Administrating Kat Personal ScrapBook From:United States |
posted 04-07-2002 02:08 PM
John, I took one of mine apart about a month ago and will tell you that separating the bottom cover is a pain in the butt! The sealant makes it very difficult. I used a knife to cut the sealant and worked it apart using a large screwdriver about an inch at a time. It took at least 20 minutes to get it totally apart. Be sure to use a super clean pure cotton cloth to wipe the lens and the reflector as they appear to get scratched very easily. I used silicone seal when reassembling the bottom cover. ------------------ |
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