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posted 07-06-2000 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Previously on the PPC DF, I discussed the installation of my ceramic brake pads. My yellow 99 has the painted wheels and the dust was really annoying. It has been 400 miles and one week since the pad installation and I am happy to report that I still hve no brake dust on the wheels. If any of you are contemplating the change, I would recommend it.
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posted 07-06-2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gary C     send a private message to Gary C   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Gary C
Dave,

What was the part number of the Front and rear pads?

I am getting the front end chromed and rear caliphers done also, so while its apart I will do the pads.

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posted 07-07-2000 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Gary: I didn't change the rears because I didn't have a dust problem there, but the front pad number for Raybestos is PGD730QS

[This message has been edited by Dave Mills (edited 07-07-2000).]

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posted 07-09-2000 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger     send a private message to Roger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Roger
Dave, Over the weekend, I ran into a Prowler owner, Prowler tech, service manager for a DC dealer (this man is all 3) and mentioned to him about these brake pads. He knows it will solve the dust problem but is concerned about reduced braking. Can you comment on that. Thanks.
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posted 07-09-2000 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Roger:
I drove another 140 miles this weekend. Still no brake dust. As for reduced braking, I do not notice any difference. I have a number of old Mopars and the brakes aren't that good on any of them, so I may not be the best judge. Neither my wife or I can see any difference since installing the new pads though
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posted 07-12-2000 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Richard Jackson     send a private message to Richard Jackson   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Richard Jackson
How difficult is it to replace the front pads with the new ceramic ones. I have the tools and I have put pads on a '72 Chevelle years ago, but that was then. A novice needs a little help.

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posted 07-12-2000 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Goertz     send a private message to Tony Goertz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tony Goertz
Dave - Just got my Raybestos pads today. Should be easy to put them on - just open the caliper a little, a couple of bolts and drop them in. Did the 72 Chevelle have disk brakes? If not - replacing these pads compared to the Chevelle with drums is extremely easy
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posted 07-12-2000 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
I took the Cat to my service Tech. The whole job took about twenty minutes from the time I got there, so it can't be very hard to do.
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posted 07-17-2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Goertz     send a private message to Tony Goertz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tony Goertz
Just finsihed putting on the ceramic pads - Total time - 1 hr - The most time was scrubbing out the inside of the wheels to get the dust out of the spokes.
- Jack up front side
- Take wheel off
- Take out 2 bolts holding brack caliper 10 mm socket wrench
- twist brake caliper against disk to open them up as far a possible so the install is easy
- take out old pads - spring clipped on
- install new pads
- put caliper back on
- insert the 2 bolts
- put wheel back on
- let down car

Repeat for other side

Someplace in there wash the wheel.

Easy job - did it in shorts and a white shirt - only got hands dirty
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posted 07-18-2000 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mike Krehel     send a private message to Mike Krehel   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Mike Krehel
Tony, are you happy with the new pads. What is your opinion of the stopping power?

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posted 07-19-2000 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roger     send a private message to Roger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Roger
RE: my post above, the service manager, who drives his own personally owned prowler, commented that he, too, gets tired of cleaning off the dust all the time. But that he would want to call DC and do a little more research on the matter before he would consider doing this. It all related to his concerns regarding stopping power.
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posted 07-23-2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Goertz     send a private message to Tony Goertz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tony Goertz
Having read somewhere that the read disks were made of some "aluminum compound" I checked both front and rear disks with a magnet. Front is magnetic so I presume basic steel (as they also show rust). Rear is not magnetic. As a result I was satisfied with using ceramic pads on Front but will not touch anything on the rear.
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posted 07-23-2000 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Tony: How many miles on ceramic pads? I now have 1200 miles on mine and I am very pleased. Cleaned the wheels for the first time this morning since changing pads.

[This message has been edited by Dave Mills (edited 07-23-2000).]

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posted 07-23-2000 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Dave,

Talked to buddy (owns repair shop & builds hot rods) today about the new pads. He ask about warpage.

Have you noticed any pulsating in the pedal as if the rotor was out of round?

I really would like to change before going to Detroit.

Larry

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posted 07-24-2000 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dave Mills     send a private message to Dave Mills   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Dave Mills
Larry: I only have 1,000 miles on the car since the change, but so far I haven't noticed any chatter or any signs of warpage.
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posted 07-25-2000 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tony Goertz     send a private message to Tony Goertz   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Tony Goertz
Finally had a chance to try out the new pads. I feel NO difference in the stopping of the car. Everything is normal - except NO BRAKE DUST .
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100% satisfied with ceramic pads!!!No noise, normal pedal, and best of all NO BLACK DUST!!
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I'm thinking of changing mine. Thanks for the advice guys.

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posted 08-31-2000 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
OK everyone my two cents,

I installed the ceramic pads before going to Detroit for the dream cruise.

It reduces the dust a great deal No difference in braking noticed

THE PROWLER ENGINEER (JERRY) STATED DO NOT INSTALL CERAMIC PADS ON THE REAR The rear does not produce much dust anyway

I would recommend this to anyone that doesn't want to wipe off their wheels ever 10 miles.

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posted 09-28-2000 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dpena     send a private message to dpena   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by dpena
Folks,

I took plenty of pics detailing the install of the infamous raybestos brakes on my site.

Enjoy!

http://www.dpena.com/DanPenaProwler/RaybestosInstall/ulthm.htm

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I'am happy to see you again Dan, I too installed the Raybestos QS pads. Very happy with the results. Nobody seem to notice any lack of stopping power at Texas Motor Speedway. Although I almost hit the pace truck once

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posted 10-17-2000 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUST JP     send a private message to JUST JP   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JUST JP
I love the ceramic brake pads. Since installing them, I have actually started cleaning the inside of my wheels. Before, I didn't even bother, didn't figure it was worth the trouble. It's nice not having to worry about that dust anymore. Gary C, one MORE post for ya.

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Dumb question from a rank amateur.. are the Raybestos and the Ceramic pads one in the same? Sorry....

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Raybestos make ceramaic pads for the prowler and most users are purchasing the Raybestos brand. Other manufacturers may make ceramic pads also. Raybestos is well known for their quality. Best price for the front pads was at Pep Boys for around $60. I paid 75 at a local quality parts place.

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I just put front ceramic pads on my Prowler. Bought them under the Carquest brand name. Raybestos makes them for Carquest. Paid $72. Ceramic brake pads are OE on some cars today. For some info see
http://www.raybestos.com/quietstop.htm

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