posted 03-09-2017 05:08 PM                  

A friend forwarded this to me…interesting Food for thought

As a "joke", my Chev dealer gave me a Volt as a loaner while my full-size pick-up was getting some attention. He thought it was funny to give his energy company CEO this thing here on Vancouver Island! I live 30 kilometers outside of Victoria near Sidney.

The battery was dead - later he admitted they almost never charged it. While the car was "OK", on gasoline, it was pretty anemic. So for the extra money, even taking into account Chev rebates and Provincial incentives, you get an under-powered, heavy car that felt "too small" for its actual size (battery has to go somewhere).

Now the kicker: at a neighborhood barbecue, I was talking to a Neighbor, a BC Hydro executive. I asked him how that renewable thing was doing. He laughed, then got serious. If you really intend to adopt electric vehicles, he pointed out, you had to face certain realities. For example, a home charging system for a Tesla requires 75 amp service.

The average house is equipped with 100 amp service. On our small street (approximately 25 homes), the electrical infrastructure would be unable to carry more than 3 houses with a single Tesla, each. For even half the homes to have electric vehicles, the system would be wildly over-loaded.

This is the elephant in the room with electric vehicles ... Our residential infrastructure cannot bear the load. So as our genius elected officials ram this nonsense down our collective throats, not only are we being forced to buy the damn things and replace our reliable, cheap generating systems with expensive, new windmills and solar cells, but we will also have to renovate our entire delivery system! This latter "investment" will not be revealed until we're so far down this dead end road that it will be presented with an oops and a shrug.

If you want to argue with a green person over cars that are Eco-friendly, just read the below:

Note: However, if you ARE the green person, read it anyway. Enlightening.

Eric test drove the Chevy Volt at the invitation of General Motors...and he writes...For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.

Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the battery. So, the range including the 9 gallon gas tank and the 16 kWh battery is approximately 270 miles.

It will take you 4 1/2 hours to drive 270 miles at 60 mph. Then add 10 hours to charge the battery and you have a total trip time of 14.5 hours. In a typical road trip your average speed (including charging time) would be 20 mph.

According to General Motors, the Volt battery holds 16 kWh of electricity. It takes a full 10 hours to charge a drained battery. The cost for the electricity to charge the Volt is never mentioned so I looked up what I pay for electricity. I pay approximately (it varies with amount used and the seasons) $1.16 per kWh. 16 kWh x $1.16 per kWh = $18.56 to charge the battery.

$18.56 per charge divided by 25 miles = $0.74 per mile to operate the Volt using the battery. Compare this to a similar size car with a gasoline engine that gets only 32 mpg. $3.19 per gallon divided by 32 mpg = $0.10 per mile.

The gasoline powered car costs about $15,000 while the Volt costs $46,000........So the American Government wants proud and loyal Americans not to do the math, but simply pay 3 times as much for a car, that costs more than 7 times as much to run, and takes 3 times longer to drive across the country....

Still wonder why Trump won?

posted 03-09-2017 05:53 PM                  

The average price people in the U.S. pay for electricity is about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour. (Context: A typical U.S. household uses about 908 kWh a month of electricity.)
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/10/27/141766341/the-price-of-electricity-i n-your-state

The joke says $1.16

It does take a long time to charge those batteries on 120V
but only 4.5 hours at 220 V. Everyone who owns one should be set up at home with a 220 Volt power supply and only charge on 110 if they are in an odd location.

posted 03-09-2017 05:57 PM                  

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Originally posted by padroo:
I see a lot of holes in this joke.

The average price people in the U.S. pay for electricity is about 12 cents per kilowatt-hour. (Context: A typical U.S. household uses about 908 kWh a month of electricity.)
http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/10/27/141766341/the-price-of-electricity-i n-your-state

The joke says $1.16

It does take a long time to charge those batteries on 120V
but only 4.5 hours at 220 V. Everyone who owns one should be set up at home with a 220 Volt power supply and only charge on 110 if they are in an odd location.

Like the Prowler people who own the Chevy Volt love their cars and are very happy with them.

Some utility companies offer special rates for off hour power usage. You are doing them a favor by charging your car batteries at night when the demand is low so you are helping them sell their electric because the generators run all the time and if no one is using the electric, oh well.

And I am still wondering why Trump won. lol

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posted 03-12-2017 08:05 AM                  

KENWOOD TOWNE CENTRE TESLA

I called them and they really wouldn't say the replacement cost or when the car would reach that point. They sounded like they were in a Mall and not a dealership like you would think.

posted 03-13-2017 04:20 PM                  

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Originally posted by Gort:
The nearest dealer to me is in Ohio, about a 420 mile round trip for service.
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