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Michael Pond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Canon City, Colorado |
posted 06-15-2016 01:33 PM
People don't seem to understand the difference between an assault weapon and an assault type weapon. an assault weapon is one that will keep firing as long as you hold the trigger down, fully automatic like a machine gun. The assault type weapon is one that looks like an assault weapon, but you have to pull the trigger every time you want to fire a shot(semi-automatic). Every rifle out there can be made to "look like" an assault weapon. That means, what they look like and what they are are too different things. People cannot buy an assault weapon without a special permit from ATF. The military issues assault weapons to its solders, not assault types!! It's not a gun problem, but a people problem!! |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, Texas, United States |
posted 06-15-2016 05:52 PM
Pretty wicked looking ...right? " why should anyone have one of those" Compared to this.......
This message has been edited by mslc10 on 06-15-2016 at 05:56 PM |
alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 06-15-2016 08:34 PM
quote: Based on the people that I have 'heard of' with AR15 type weapons...a very high percentage are converted to full automatic... IMO/E semi auto, although slower, is still a killing machine that can fire much faster than 99.9% of its owners can handle |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, Texas, United States |
posted 06-15-2016 09:09 PM
The conversion/ modification to fully auto is HIGHLY illegal . While this type of modification may function the weapon cannot be registered as a class 3 " fully auto" because it is not originally manufactured as such. There are add on trigger mechanisms and " slide fire" stocks that make the weapon close to full auto but does not require it be listed as class 3. |
Gort Prowler Junkie From:Clinton Tn,USA |
posted 06-15-2016 09:16 PM
quote: Based on the people that I have 'heard of' with AR15 type weapons...a very high percentage are converted to full automatic... IMO/E semi auto, although slower, is still a killing machine that can fire much faster than 99.9% of its owners can handle [/B][/QUOTE] If anyone converts a AR 15 to a fully automatic weapon, that's a huge felony. You could spend many many years in prison. A M14 can easily be converted to a fully automatic. The kit the Army issues is very tiny latch and spring. You have to have a class two automatic weapons license to possess a automatic weapon. This message has been edited by Gort on 06-15-2016 at 09:18 PM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 06-15-2016 09:25 PM
As Michael stated > "It's not a gun problem, but a people problem!!" Criminals & crazies will always be able to purchase guns, and use them. No stopping that! |
alprowl POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Katonah , NY, USA |
posted 06-15-2016 10:00 PM
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quote: Not my problem, I don't even have a BB gun...but I swear, that every time someone talks about their guns, they all seem to brag about it being automatic...maybe they're referring to the 'close to full auto' mods that msic mentioned, but I don't know enough about it, to even question them. |
Michael Pond POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Canon City, Colorado |
posted 06-16-2016 08:18 AM
Most semi-autos fire at 45 rounds per minute, A full auto AR fires at 800 rpm. A huge difference!! |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 06-16-2016 09:29 AM
Further the ATF permit ($200 per firearm) only allows you to own any full auto firearm manufactured in the US or imported to the US before May 19, 1986. For example my Tavor is issued to the Israeli military as full auto. Even with an ATF permit I could not own one because it was manufactured after 1986. You can't take possession of the gun until you have the permit. To have possession without the permit is a Federal crime. I hear it takes about 6 months to obtain a permit. You MUST have the ATF permit on you when you take the gun anywhere. The same goes for an SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) permit. $200 per firearm and 6 months to obtain. There are no manufacture date restrictions to owning an SBR.
Due to the fixed supply of fully automatic firearms that currently exist in the US that are available for civilian purchase, the price for the qualifying full auto guns is outrageous. For example, I found a full auto MP-40 described as being in “85% condition” for sale on GunBroker.com for the starting price of $14,000. Although, depending on the firearm, it is not uncommon to find prices upwards of $20k. https://thearmsguide.com/2349/full-auto-is-legal/ This message has been edited by BeWare on 06-16-2016 at 09:38 AM |
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