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posted 12-23-2015 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mslc10     send a private message to mslc10   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by mslc10

A little history for those who didn't realize it


Why the Marine Hymn Contains the Verse "To the Shores of Tripoli"


This very interesting and a must read piece of our history. It points out where we may be heading.


Most Americans are unaware of the fact that over two hundred years ago the United States had declared war on Islam and Thomas Jefferson led the charge!

At the height of the eighteenth century, Muslim pirates (the “Barbary Pirates”) were the terror of the Mediterranean and a large area of the North Atlantic.



They attacked every ship in sight, and held the crews for exorbitant ransoms. Those taken hostage were subjected to barbaric treatment and wrote heart-breaking letters home, begging their government and family members to pay whatever their Mohammedan captors demanded.



These extortionists of the high seas represented the North African Islamic nations of Tripoli, Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers - collectively referred to as the Barbary Coast - and presented a dangerous and unprovoked threat to the new American Republic.



Before the Revolutionary War, U.S. merchant ships had been under the protection of Great Britain. When the U.S. declared its independence and entered into war, the ships of the United States were protected by France. However, once the war was won, America had to protect its own fleets.


Thus, the birth of the U.S. Navy. Beginning in 1784, seventeen years before he would become president, Thomas Jefferson became America's Minister to France. That same year, the U.S. Congress sought to appease its Muslim adversaries by following in the footsteps of European nations who paid bribes to the Barbary States rather than engaging them in war.


In July of 1785, Algerian pirates captured American ships, and the Dye of Algiers demanded an unheard-of ransom of $60,000. It was a plain and simple case of extortion, and Thomas Jefferson was vehemently opposed to any further payments. Instead, he proposed to Congress the formation of a coalition of allied nations who together could force the Islamic states into peace. A disinterested Congress decided to pay the ransom.


In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Tripoli's ambassador to Great Britain to ask by what right his nation attacked American ships and enslaved American citizens, and why Muslims held so much hostility towards America, a nation with which they had no previous contacts.


The two future presidents reported that Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja had answered that Islam "was founded on the Laws of their Prophet, that it was written in their Quran that all nations who would not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Musselman (Muslim) who should be slain in Battle was sure to go to Paradise."


Despite this stunning admission of premeditated violence on non-Muslim nations, as well as the objections of many notable American leaders, including George Washington, who warned that caving in was both wrong and would only further embolden the enemy, for the following fifteen years the American government paid the Muslims millions of dollars for the safe passage of American ships or the return of American hostages. The payments in ransom and tribute amounted to over twenty percent of the United States government annual revenues in 1800.

Jefferson was disgusted. Shortly after his being sworn in as the third President of the United States in 1801, the Pasha of Tripoli sent him a note demanding the immediate payment of $225,000 plus $25,000 a year for every year forthcoming. That changed everything.


Jefferson let the Pasha know, in no uncertain terms, what he could do with his demand. The Pasha responded by cutting down the flagpole at the American consulate and declared war on the United States. Tunis, Morocco, and Algiers immediately followed suit. Jefferson, until now, had been against America raising a naval force for anything beyond coastal defense, but, having watched his nation be cowed by Islamic thuggery for long enough, decided that is was finally time to meet force with force.


He dispatched a squadron of frigates to the Mediterranean and taught the Muslim nations of the Barbary Coast a lesson he hoped they would never forget. Congress authorized Jefferson to empower U.S. ships to seize all vessels and goods of the Pasha of Tripoli and to "cause to be done all other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war would justify".


When Algiers and Tunis, who were both accustomed to American cowardice and acquiescence, saw the newly independent United States had both the will and the right to strike back, they quickly abandoned their allegiance to Tripoli. The war with Tripoli lasted for four more years, and raged up again in 1815. The bravery of the U.S. Marine Corps in these wars led to the line "to the shores of Tripoli" in the Marine Hymn, and they would forever be known as "leathernecks" for the leather collars of their uniforms, designed to prevent their heads from being cut off by the Muslim scimitars when boarding enemy ships.


Islam, and what its Barbary followers justified doing in the name of their prophet and their god, disturbed Jefferson quite deeply.


America had a tradition of religious tolerance.. In fact Jefferson, himself, had co-authored the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, but fundamentalist Islam was like no other religion the world had ever seen. A religion based on supremacism, whose holy book not only condoned but mandated violence against unbelievers, was unacceptable to him. His greatest fear was that someday this brand of Islam would return and pose an even greater threat to the United States .


This should concern every American. That Muslims have brought about women-only classes and swimming times at taxpayer-funded universities and public pools; that Christians, Jews, and Hindus have been banned from serving on juries where Muslim defendants are being judged; Piggy banks and Porky Pig tissue dispensers have been banned from workplaces because they offend Islamist sensibilities; ice cream has been discontinued at certain Burger King locations because the picture on the wrapper looks similar to the Arabic script for Allah; public schools are pulling pork from their menus; on and on and on and on….


It's death by a thousand cuts, or inch-by-inch as some refer to it, and most Americans have no idea that this battle is being waged every day across America. By not fighting back, by allowing groups to obfuscate what is really happening, and not insisting that the Islamists adapt to our own culture, the United States is cutting its own throat with a politically correct knife, and helping to further the Islamists agenda. Sadly, it appears that today America's STUPID leaders would rather be politically correct than victorious!


If you have any doubts about the above information, just Google “Thomas Jefferson vs. the Muslim World."

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This sums it up: "Sadly, it appears that today America's STUPID leaders would rather be politically correct than victorious!"

What ever happened to the notion of coming to America, to embrace it's culture and to assimilate??

Very Sad .... we NEED a strong leader again as Jefferson was .... we NEED Donald J. Trump as our next President.

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It's amazing that these dumb A$$e$ don't learn from the past history and keep repeating the same mistakes.
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History is no longer taught accurately ,if at all, in our schools.
"If you don't know where you have been,how can you decide where you are going."
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Thanks for the update msic10.

It would seem that Australia has more balls than the U.S. They have informed their Muslim population that if they do not like Australian customs, too bad and they should move to another country.

It would seem that Japan has the ultimate solution. No Muslims are allowed to reside in Japan.

The Muslims are offended by North American customs ..... screw you ..... this is our heritage and Donald will help us keep it !!!

Obama and all the other politicians seem to just rush, every chance they get to kiss the Muslim ass, Trump is the only one willing to kick it.

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http://www.youtube.com/embed/yZZlo0WZ_iU?rel=0
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quote:
Originally posted by greatkat:

It would seem that Japan has the ultimate solution. No Muslims are allowed to reside in Japan.


And why isn't japan considered racist or ,better question, why aren't we condemning them for being so " closed minded" and non multi cultural? If trumps idea is soooo bad where is Japan's condemnation??

This message has been edited by mslc10 on 12-23-2015 at 08:55 PM

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Great Ed,

Love the song and the Aussies. The difference is they don't have a Muslim loving President or a Muslim loving Premier.

At least you will be replacing yours with "The Donald".

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Clearly there are precedents set by both Australia and Japan ... yet our homegrown vomit food of Political Correctness gets force fed to us through the worthless, self-loving liberal media. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH ... shale we invite the Trojan Horse in further, give up ALL that HAS made America GREAT ... or elect a LEADER like we have not had in quite some time?!?

Make America Great Again with Trump!!!

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