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reechee POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Rafael, CA |
posted 10-29-2015 08:56 PM
Of all the major conservative parties in the democratic world, the Republican Party stands alone in its denial of the legitimacy of climate science. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/09/whys-gop-only-science-denying-party-on-earth.html |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 10-29-2015 09:03 PM
Hey Rechee ... hate to burst your liberal thinking democratic minded bubble, but look at a world globe ... if the US is the ONLY country "concerned" with global warming, and is willing to run off companies and processes in the name of battling this phenomenon, where do you think they GO? And then those places/countries have our jobs/processes and don't give a rats hiney about this same "concern"? Wake up man ... drink more Kool Aide ... I know what has your panties in a bunch ... when the polar ice caps melt ... finally, along after you and I are long gone ..., your city will be one of the first to go, right? Head to the rockies ... by then they all will be so stoned that you can cop a squat on their land for free! This message has been edited by StingRay on 10-29-2015 at 09:04 PM |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, Texas, United States |
posted 10-29-2015 09:34 PM
I think you would be more worried about what you and your party should be doing about something a little more realistic........earthquakes!! Instead of building solar panels and wind generators maybe you should take all those raw materials and inject them ( oil field style) into that dreaded San Andreas fault , that was caused by the man made Golden Gate Bridge , which would firm up your " waffling" ground out there! Just an idea ...but by no means ....science! Thomas Dolby style!! ------------------ |
mslc10 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Bulverde, Texas, United States |
posted 10-29-2015 09:40 PM
I'm surprised your Kenyan bruttha hood Hussein hasn't changed the name from San andreas fault to..........wait for it....... George bushes fault!!!!! ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 10-29-2015 10:00 PM
Did the ICE AGE end before or after the invention of the internal combustion engine? |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 10-29-2015 10:11 PM
Dinosaur farts Ed .... major contributor to global warming back then, and the first thing the democrats focused on for "extinction" |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-30-2015 08:48 AM
Australian politician and climate science sceptic Nick Minchin - the key political kingmaker who engineered the leadership challenge that gave the now Prime Minister Tony Abbott the Liberal leadership. Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections David Bellamy, botanist Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the National Academy of Sciences Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003) Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian National University Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 Astronaut, former U.S. Senator. Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-30-2015 08:53 AM
Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of geography at the University of Winnipeg Robert M. Carter, former head of the school of earth sciences at James Cook University Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy; emeritus professor, Princeton University Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm. William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of Missouri Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada. Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of Adelaide. Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie University and University of Colorado Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University[ Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-30-2015 08:57 AM
Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks. Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University. Pål Brekke, solar astrophycisist, senior advisor Norwegian Space Centre. John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCC reports Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory. David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma. Ivar Giaever, professor emeritus of physics at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute and a Nobel laureate. Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists. |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-30-2015 08:58 AM
Did you notice all the non-US countries in the above lists? I call the article BS! |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 10-30-2015 09:08 AM
From the Huffington Post Conservatives Don't Hate Climate Change, They Hate The Proposed Solutions: Study Kate Sheppard Become a fan kate.sheppard@huffingtonpost.com Conservatives who reject the science of climate change aren't necessarily reacting to the science, according to a new study from researchers at Duke University. They're reacting to the fact that they don't like proposed solutions more strongly identified with liberals. The paper, published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, looks at the relationship between political ideology and rejection of scientific evidence. The researchers look most closely at climate change and other environmental challenges, an area where those who identify as liberals or Democrats mostly accept scientific conclusions while conservatives or Republicans largely reject them. The researchers conclude that on climate and other important societal issues, this denial is "rooted not in a fear of the general problem, per se, but rather in fear of the specific solutions associated with that problem." The authors blame this denial of climate science on what they deem "solution aversion," i.e., the proposed solutions are "more aversive and more threatening to individuals who hold an ideology that is incompatible with or even challenged by the solution." In the case of climate change, the most discussed solutions include regulatory actions like limits on greenhouse gas emissions or additional taxes on carbon pollution. And for the most part, conservatives aren’t really into regulations and taxes. “Our research joins past research in showing that people in general tend to deny the problem when the cure to that problem is scary," Troy Campbell, lead author of the paper and a doctoral candidate at Duke University's Fuqua School of Business. "For conservatives, the cure to the climate change problem, at least the one everyone talks about, is particularly scary to them, so it makes sense that we see more skepticism on their part." Their research also found that this tendency isn't limited to conservatives; they found that some liberals, too, "will deny facts and science too, when the popular solutions and implications are undesirable to them," said Campbell, pointing to other research that has found that trend as well. Another area of their study looked at how survey respondents interpreted data about violence related to home break-ins based on their personal positions on gun control, and also found that respondents rejected data if it did not support their pre-existing position on guns. On climate change, this tendency toward "solution aversion" brings us to somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophesy. If conservative politicians cast doubt on whether climate change is even happening, they're not inclined to offer their own solutions to the problem. And without conservative solutions, the ideological divide on the issue seems likely to continue. That is, unless people who care about the climate can find new ways of talking about it. Right now, said Campbell, "the narratives and solutions around climate change are anti-conservative."
He also warned that this tendency isn't necessarily something that's easy to change. "These things are linked to people's ideologies, and ideologies are incredibly core aspects of people's self. Those core aspects do not change easily," he said. "One thing that is important for anyone in climate change communication is to understand they are playing a long game." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/07/climate-change-conservatives_n_6124028.html |
Randy Cobb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Greensboro, NC |
posted 10-30-2015 10:31 AM
I seems for every scientific group that espouses global warming/climate change (wherever you want to call it), there is another to contradict it. Agencies tend to shape their findings based upon their ideologies. NORA has been found twice exaggerating studies. On this issue I lean towards believing what I experience & see first hand. 1. I am in the gasoline, heating oil and propane distribution business. In the industry we use what is called the Degree Day System for purchase and automatic delivery of heating oil/propane. The last three heating seasons our degree days have been far above average with the 2013-14 season being the highest recorded since the degree system was put in place. Our same acct sales are up each year, meaning each individual acct has purchase more gallons each year. 2. Our sales of kerosene to truck stops increases each year. Truck stops blend kero into diesel to prevent "gelling" of diesel fuel due to low temperatures. 3. Most school systems in VA and the Carolinas added one or two additional "snow days" to their calendars this year. 4. I waterfowl hunt. Birds are flying earlier in the season and further south. Trunda swans were spotted as far south as Pawleys Island, SC the last two seasons. Humans will lie about the weather according to their ideologies, wildlife don't. It may be far different where others live, but these are my experiences. But if I remember correctly, didn't the Buffalo area get some snow last winter?
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