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posted 12-04-2013 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for reechee     send a private message to reechee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by reechee
Hilary Hoynes is a University of California at Berkeley economist who wrote a particularly notable paper last year. Instead of increasing dependency, as conservative critics have repeatedly claimed, Hoyen’s paper showed that, for women at least, food stamp use during pregnancy and early childhood has exactly the opposite impact of what conservatives allege: It actually increases economic self-sufficiency when children grow up, in the next generation.

That was just one of two main results reported in “Long Run Impacts of Childhood Access to the Safety Net,” which Hoynes co-authored with Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach and Douglas Almond. As stated in the paper’s abstract, access to food stamps for women leads to “increases in economic self-sufficiency (increases in educational attainment, earnings, and income, and decreases in welfare participation).” Hoynes and her colleagues took advantage of the fact that food stamp programs were established county-by-county over a period of years, creating a sort of “natural experiment” beginning half a century in the past.

For the complete article:
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/04/gop_debunked_on_food_stamps_everything_they_say_about_snap_is_wrong/

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posted 12-04-2013 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Wow, she is from U C Berkeley and has a liberal view point. Shocking indeed.
Also in news you can believe and find shocking, Obama says Obamacare is working great and the country needs it.
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posted 12-04-2013 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reechee     send a private message to reechee   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by reechee
Ed, since this person is from a place that is geographically suspect, you will not read or consider the material. That's certainly a way to keep a closed mind shut.

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posted 12-04-2013 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjprowler     send a private message to bjprowler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by bjprowler
The author must be the same whacko that taught Nancy Pelosi that welfare and food stamps are a great way to stimulate the economy.....Or, as Nancy said “It is the biggest bang for the buck when you do food stamps and unemployment insurance. The biggest bang for the buck.”

http://lonelyconservative.com/2010/10/pelosi-food-stamps-and-unemploy ment-give-biggest-bang-for-our-buck/


....And even more "pearls of wisdom" from the dingbat as she explains that unemployment creates jobs!:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q06u0n9UfW0&hd=1

This message has been edited by bjprowler on 12-04-2013 at 02:07 PM

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the very premise of this "paper" is both counter intuitive and not supported by any quantitve evidence....just self serving assumptions.

"Hoynes herself said, “This work indicates that there are important benefits of the safety net that to date have been ignored. They predict that a more generous safety net can reduce health disparities. More generally, the emerging evidence points to an important role for investments in early life — and those investments generate important returns in terms of better health and economic outcomes in adulthood.”

she fails to cite any numbers to support her conclusion. no quantitative studies...no numbers.....just assumptive conclusory statements.

in short, her "paper" is a joke...as it offers no evidence to support her assumption. her statement "more generally..." illustrates just how baseless her evidence is.

since when does feeding bears lead to a more self sufficient bear population a generation later?

dont get me wrong...i am not in favor of eliminating food assistance....but it should be limited in both time and scope...we...as americans...generally have no issue in helping the truly helpless......but as for me...i dont give a rats ass about helping the lazy and clueless...

This message has been edited by attyedhall on 12-04-2013 at 04:08 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by reechee:
Hilary Hoynes is a University of California at Berkeley economist who wrote a particularly notable paper last year. Instead of increasing dependency, as conservative critics have repeatedly claimed, Hoyen’s paper showed that, for women at least, food stamp use during pregnancy and early childhood has exactly the opposite impact of what conservatives allege: It actually increases economic self-sufficiency when children grow up, in the next generation.

That was just one of two main results reported in “Long Run Impacts of Childhood Access to the Safety Net,” which Hoynes co-authored with Diane Whitmore Schanzenbach and Douglas Almond. As stated in the paper’s abstract, access to food stamps for women leads to “increases in economic self-sufficiency (increases in educational attainment, earnings, and income, and decreases in welfare participation).” Hoynes and her colleagues took advantage of the fact that food stamp programs were established county-by-county over a period of years, creating a sort of “natural experiment” beginning half a century in the past.

For the complete article:
http://www.salon.com/2013/12/04/gop_debunked_on_food_stamps_everything_the y_say_about_snap_is_wrong/


Berkeley economist.... that'a an oxymoron...smiles

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posted 12-04-2013 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Reechee, I saw Food Stamps at work for years, at work. They bought the giant, economy sized mayonnaise and then let it sit on the table, open, with flies in it for a week or so until it smelled so bad that they had to throw it away. I saw that thousands of times, literally. They didn't pay for it so it wasn't worth anything.
I know that is generalization, but I saw it over and over for years, every month.
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posted 12-04-2013 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StingRay     send a private message to StingRay   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by StingRay
quote:
Originally posted by attyedhall:
...we...as americans...generally have no issue in helping the truly helpless......but as for me...i dont give a rats ass about helping the lazy and clueless...

Agreed ....

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