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posted 01-05-2013 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan

President Obama sternly warned congressional Republicans today that if they don't agree to raise the debt ceiling next month, the consequences could be "catastrophic."

"If Congress refuses to give the United States the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic," the president said in his weekly address. "The last time Congress threatened this course of action, our entire economy suffered for it. Our families and our businesses cannot afford that dangerous game again."


House Ways and Means Committee chairman Rep. Dave Camp, R- Mich., in the Republicans' address suggested simply raising the debt ceiling isn't the answer - major spending cuts are.


"Many of our Democrat colleagues just don't seem to get it," Camp said. "Throughout the fiscal cliff discussions, the President and the Democrats who control Washington repeatedly refused to take any meaningful steps to make Washington live within its means. That position is irresponsible and fails to acknowledge what every family in America already knows - when you have no more money in your account and your credit cards are maxed out, then the spending must stop."
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The president also fired a shot across the bow of Republicans who would like to believe that this week's "fiscal cliff" agreement put the tax issue to rest, signaling that any further deficit reduction efforts must again include tax reform that asks the wealthy to pay more. "Spending cuts must be balanced with more reforms to our tax code," said the president. "The wealthiest individuals and biggest corporations shouldn't be able to take advantage of loopholes and deductions that aren't available to most Americans."

It seems this is an issue in which Mr. Obama and congressional Republicans can at least begin to have a conversation. Camp echoed the president on tax reform saying, "we have to start to work on real solutions to return accountability to our tax code by eliminating special interest loopholes."


"I believe in a simple principle," Camp continued. "When it comes to the tax code, everyone should play by the same rules. Your tax rate should be determined by what's fair, not who you know in Washington."

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How about a nice FLAT Tax for everyone, then we would no longer have lobbyists or 40 million not paying anything and yelling at the rice to pay more..
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quote:
Originally posted by KlasKat:
How about a nice FLAT Tax for everyone, then we would no longer have lobbyists or 40 million not paying anything and yelling at the rice to pay more..

That might be too fair !!

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Originally posted by KlasKat:
How about a nice FLAT Tax for everyone, then we would no longer have lobbyists or 40 million not paying anything and yelling at the rice to pay more..

It would also reduce the size of Government and spending. Can't have that.
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This is why the actor Gerard Depardue left France for first The Netherlands, and ultimately Russia - they have a flat tax there that was SIGNIFICANTLY lower than what he was being gouged by France socialist government. Lower flat tax here would be GREAT!
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http://www.ehow.com/facts_6188246_information-flat-income-tax.html
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http://voices.yahoo.com/flat-tax-advantage-disadvantage-10291991.html
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http://www.buzzle.com/articles/flat-tax-pros-and-cons.html
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http://www.asktaxguru.com/6556-what-advantages-disadvantages-adopting-flat-tax-us.html
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David, you just shedding light on the scale here, or advocate against a flat tax?

Much of that information seems dated. How many companies today pay into an employees' retirement plan, let alone offer one? I work for a $3.2B company, and there is NO match ...

Boo Hoo on the poor .. many STAY poor due to all the current Gov't programs that support them - paid by you and me #well, at least me, don't know you or what you make#.

With flat tax and smaller gov't, then those freebie programs go away - poor work, pay their share, and Big Brother isn't in our pockets like they are now ...

Ah, until we implement term limits in Washington, remove all the free rides on health care and retirement for these political crooks, nothing's gonna change. Sad, very sad.

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Why don't the politicians pay social security? Have to percipatate in Obama Care,like the rest of us if it such a good deal ? Their retirement plan should be like the rest of the country, social security and 401k plans or savings. They should have to live by the same rules as the rest of us!! A flat tax of 10% on any income, no matter what you make, with no deductions, seems like a fair share. It would definately reduce the size of government. It might even make them a little more conservative in their spending habits.
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posted 01-14-2013 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Obama was on the TV today and stated Congress could just give him the power to raise the debt ceiling or they can raise it for him. A little later he said they will all meet and as long as everyone comes in with an open mind, they can get it done. Seemed contradictory to me.
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Gotta love his spin on raising the debt ceiling - "It doesn't mean spending more, it just authorizes him to pay for the spending Congress already racked up."

If they passed a balance budget there would be no need to run a deficit.

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