posted 10-16-2012 10:01 AM                  

What do you think would happen if a Caucasian president produced and published a YouTube video for ALL WHITE PEOPLE to unite for a WHITE PRESIDENT. This is the MOST SIGNIFICANT DEMONSTRATION of INTENTIONAL DIVISIVE RACISM by ANY PRESIDENT in the history of our country. Obama announces the 2012 launch of African Americans for Obama.

Can you imagine Romney putting out a call for all the white brothers and sisters to vote for him because he's white and so are they?

posted 10-16-2012 10:12 AM                  

YOU are the one who mentioned color. African Americans are a group of people with a common nationality. Just as Hispanics, Jews and New Yorkers are. They have specific needs that can be addressed better by specific people. It has nothing to do with "Intentional divisive racism" But your post might.

If he had said all black people unite, that would be different. You made it about color.

posted 10-16-2012 12:32 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
Only one flaw in your post. And it's fatal for you.

YOU are the one who mentioned color. African Americans are a group of people with a common nationality. Just as Hispanics, Jews and New Yorkers are. They have specific needs that can be addressed better by specific people. It has nothing to do with "Intentional divisive racism" But your post might.

If he had said all black people unite, that would be different. You made it about color.

So your post is rubbish.

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posted 10-16-2012 12:33 PM                  

Terms for African Americans used at various points in history include Negroes, colored, blacks and Afro-Americans. Negro and colored are now less commonly used and considered by many passe or derogatory. African American, black and, to a lesser extent, Afro-American, are used interchangeably today but often incorrectly. The term African-American refers only to United States citizens, but is often applied to black residents who are not citizens.

posted 10-16-2012 01:36 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
... African Americans are a group of people with a common nationality. ...

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Good point. I suppose there could be white African-Americans although I don't know any. If there are any on this site, please chime in.
Who do you think the African-American Mormons will vote for?

posted 10-16-2012 03:03 PM                  

Tiger Woods refers to his ethnic make-up as "Cablinasian" (a syllabic abbreviation he coined from Caucasian, Black, American Indian, and Asian) and yet he is routinely referred to as "African American" because of the color of his skin.

....I agree....Can't we all just be "American"?

BTW What do black Canadians call themselves? African-Canadians?

posted 10-16-2012 03:03 PM                  

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Originally posted by attyedhall:
sooooo...if i am white, but my parents are both white and from south africa? am i an african american?

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posted 10-16-2012 03:03 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
Only one flaw in your post. And it's fatal for you.

YOU are the one who mentioned color. African Americans are a group of people with a common nationality. Just as Hispanics, Jews and New Yorkers are. They have specific needs that can be addressed better by specific people. It has nothing to do with "Intentional divisive racism" But your post might.

If he had said all black people unite, that would be different. You made it about color.

So your post is rubbish.

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I assume that by fatal you are implying that it makes me look like a racist. This is what happens whenever anyone criticizes Obama.

Below is how the 2000 US census defined race / ethnicity. So just exactly who was he speaking to again?. What else am I to call myself and Mitt Romney other than White? That is our race. So your rebuttal is Rubbish.

"White. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as "White" or report entries such as Irish, German, Scottish, Italian, Near Easterner, Arab, or Polish.

"Black or African American. A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Black, African Am.' or provide written entries such as Kenyan, Nigerian, or Haitian."

"American Indian and Alaska Native. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America #including Central America# and who maintain tribal affiliation or community attachment."

"Asian. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam. It includes 'Asian Indian,' 'Chinese', 'Filipino', 'Korean', 'Japanese', 'Vietnamese', and 'Other Asian'."

"Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander. A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands. It includes people who indicate their race as 'Native Hawaiian', 'Guamanian or Chamorro', 'Samoan', and 'Other Pacific Islander'."]

"Some other race. Includes all other responses not included in the 'White', 'Black or African American', 'American Indian and Alaska Native', 'Asian' and 'Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander' race categories described above. Respondents providing write-in entries such as multiracial, mixed, interracial, We-Sort, or a Hispanic/Latino group #for example, Mexican, Puerto Rican, or Cuban# in the "Some other race" category are included here."

"Two or more races. People may have chosen to provide two or more races either by checking two or more race response check boxes, by providing multiple write-in responses, or by some combination of check boxes and write-in responses."

2010 Census

The 2010 US Census included changes designed to more clearly distinguish Hispanic ethnicity as not being a race. That included adding the sentence: "For this census, Hispanic origins are not races." Additionally, the Hispanic terms were modified from "Hispanic or Latino" to "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin".

Although used in the Census and the American Community Survey, "Some other race" is not an official race, and the Bureau considered eliminating it prior to the 2000 Census. As the 2010 census form did not contain the question titled "Ancestry" found in prior censuses, there were campaigns to get non-Hispanic West Indian Americans, Turkish Americans, Arab Americans and Iranian Americans to indicate their ethnic or national background through the race question, specifically the "Some other race" category.

The Interagency Committee has suggested that the concept of marking multiple boxes be extended to the Hispanic origin question, thereby freeing individuals from having to choose between their parents' ethnic heritages. In other words, a respondent could choose both "Hispanic or Latino" and "Not Hispanic or Latin

posted 10-16-2012 03:18 PM                  

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Originally posted by bjprowler:

BTW What do black Canadians call themselves? African-Canadians?

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There was an editorial in the local paper here just last week talking about how he felt the word American had been highjacked by people in the United States of America. He thinks we all live in America ( North America) and we are all Americans. Including people of South America. So I would call African people living in Canada 'African Americans'. I don't know if it's correct. Good question though. I will google it.

posted 10-16-2012 03:22 PM                  

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Originally posted by BeWare:
I assume that by fatal you are implying that it makes me look like a racist.

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No I'm not. Fatal in that the post failed. I do realize that it is just my opinion but I think it's flawed thinking.

I'm a minority, I know.

posted 10-16-2012 03:29 PM                  

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Originally posted by attyedhall:
sooooo...if i am white, but my parents are both white and from south africa? am i an african american?

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I would say so. If that's what you choose to be called. Color is not a prerequisite. The term 'African American is not imposed on anyone. It's a preference for those who choose to use it.

posted 10-16-2012 03:31 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
There was an editorial in the local paper here just last week talking about how he felt the word American had been highjacked by people in the United States of America. He thinks we all live in America ( North America) and we are all Americans. Including people of South America. So I would call African people living in Canada 'African Americans'. I don't know if it's correct. Good question though. I will google it.

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Why Google it? Do you call yourself a Canadian or an American?

That's funny!

posted 10-16-2012 03:41 PM                  

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Originally posted by Ronnie:
Why Google it? Do you call yourself a Canadian it an American?

That's funny!

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That's my point.If I was African American I might call myself an African American who is a Canadian citizen.

I call myself Canadian and highly proud of it.

posted 10-16-2012 03:47 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
That's my point.If I was African American I might call myself an African American who is a Canadian citizen.

I call myself Canadian and highly proud of it.

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posted 10-16-2012 04:00 PM                  

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Originally posted by Ronnie:
So why would there be African Americans in Canada. If you were born on American soil you should be American and nothing else proceeding it. I don't call myself a German Swedish American because of my heritage.

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Again, he would say you are highjacking the term. I didn't write the editorial. I'm saying I don't know what they prefer to be called. You could argue that the term is a composite of the African and American continents, I suppose. Like I said, I would have to google it. Can't be bothered though.

posted 10-16-2012 04:02 PM                  

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Originally posted by bjprowler:
My guess is that people with dark skin in Canada simply refer to themselves as "Canadians"

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posted 10-16-2012 04:09 PM                  

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Originally posted by bjprowler:
My guess is that people with dark skin in Canada simply refer to themselves as "Canadians"

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posted 10-16-2012 04:24 PM                  

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Originally posted by beachcat:
I would say so. If that's what you choose to be called. Color is not a prerequisite. The term 'African American is not imposed on anyone. It's a preference for those who choose to use it.

If color was a prerequisite, how would you guage it. At what point from white to black is the dividing line?

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so if i am black, born in the united states to black parents who are from the united states, and my grandparents and their parents were all black and from the united states......how can i be an african american?

posted 10-16-2012 04:43 PM                  

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Originally posted by attyedhall:

so if i am black, born in the united states to black parents who are from the united states, and my grandparents and their parents were all black and from the united states......how can i be an african american?

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posted 10-16-2012 06:22 PM                  

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Originally posted by cstall:
I suppose there could be white African-Americans although I don't know any. If there are any on this site, please chime in.

Who do you think the African-American Mormons will vote for?

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Russell,,,(aka, Hairarchitect) from Denver is possibly a African-American?....I believe he was born in South Africa and has a cute white butt I've been told

I'm thinking the 1.4% of American Negroes who will vote for Romney,,,,are of which claiming Mormon faith, or are on a higher plane of educational/social economic level?

I can assume its alright to say Negroes, because on my 2010 U.S. Census form, it asked about one's origin of race on the form and NEGRO was a listed choice.

http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-06.pdf

^ ^ ^ The Black Population: 2010 ^ ^ ^

Lets cut to the chase,,,,if there was a political PAC funding known as > 'White Americans for Romney', there would be rioting in the streets.