posted 11-06-2008 05:15 PM                  

If ANY of the venom and vicious energy directed at Obama was directed at Bush, then just MAYBE that IDIOT wouldn't honestly think that he actually did a GOOD JOB while he was in office. As DIZZY as she is, SARAH PALIN would make a better president than Bush!!! If JUDGEMENT DAY ever comes, Bush BETTER HIDE!! Bush is WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER and yet you guys simply choose to ignore JUST HOW STUPID AND INCOMPETENT AND COWARDLY THIS MAN IS!!!! Obama is inheriting NO BED OF ROSES. This country is so FAR DOWN THERE'S NOWHERE LEFT TO GO BUT UP!!!!

So many of you guys are spouting the SAME RACIST, SCARED, IGNORANT, PARANOID HATRED that I have seen SO MANY times throughout my life and throughout history itself:

It was present BEFORE Jackie Robinson FIRST went out on the field in New York.

It was present BEFORE the Black teens entered that Little Rock high school.

It was present BEFORE Hank Aaron broke Babe's record.

It was present BEFORE Black quarterback Doug Williams won the Superbowl.

It was also present when I had the AUDACITY (The Audacity Of Hope???) to move into a predominately White neighborhood here in Chicago. My "LOVELY, SOPHISTICATED WHITE NEIGHBORS" were so happy about my arrival, that they promptly left me a nice present - A SWASTICKA in front of my house!!!! And I'm not talkin' about something that happened in the sixties or seventies.....I'm talkin' about EIGHT YEARS AGO!!!! Hmmmm...think that could qualify as a HATE CRIME??!!!

And after I brought home my pride and joy - my 'Inca Gold Prowler'; my LOVELY, SOPHISTICATED WHITE NEIGHBORS showed me just how much THEY TOO, LOVED MY 'PROWLER'. They TRASHED THE CAR - ALL BROKEN GLASS, SCRATCHED UP PAINT AND DAMAGED TOP!!!! Don't ask - THERE WEREN'T ANY WITNESSES!!!!Hmmmm....think that could qualify as ANOTHER HATE CRIME??!!!! Pictures available upon request.

To HELL with all of the niceties!!! ITS TIME TO CUT THE S**T!!!!

Its TRULY FUNNY how nobody wants to be CALLED or IDENTIFIED as a RACIST, but EVERYBODY does and says EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO ACT LIKE ONE!!!!!

posted 11-06-2008 09:04 PM                  

50% of whites voted black
50% of whites voted white

posted 11-06-2008 09:07 PM                  

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Originally posted by GOATFALLS:
way to go!!!you said what alot of people were thinking, "we will vote for the other guy because he is white", and some were not very subtle about it. When I pushed my friends and neighbors they would admit it. In the end he will most likely be like every other politician, out for himself. our economy is crap and now our pres. elect is even being blamed for that. The election is over and it is time to look past party lines and color lines and give our new president a chance, bob

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posted 11-06-2008 09:25 PM                  

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Originally posted by KATBIRD:
are you saying George did it all by himself and congress had nothing to do with it? we all know Obama voting record.

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posted 11-06-2008 09:31 PM                  

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Originally posted by GOATFALLS:
the dems have not been in control of this country for 16 years, yea i would say he did it all by himself.

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posted 11-06-2008 09:40 PM                  

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Originally posted by blackcat:
Bob, congress controls spending............ Congress controlled regulating Fannie Mae and Fredie Mac or not. The President could wish for this support but has no control. He also dosen't't have a line item veto........
.................if the president is so powerless than what are you guys worried about?????????

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posted 11-06-2008 10:00 PM                  

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Originally posted by blackcat:
Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and BO........could be a deadly combination!

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posted 11-08-2008 10:43 PM                  

But questions abound regarding the legality of many of the donations that helped propel him to victory.

And one question is: Did Obama “buy” the election?

Obama’s fundraising haul was more than twice the amount Democrat John Kerry raised in 2004, and more than twice what George Bush and Al Gore combined brought in during the 2000 presidential campaign.

“Nobody could have imagined numbers like this or participation like this,” veteran fundraiser Alan Solomont told Bloomberg.com.

Obama’s fundraising effort was in high gear from the very start, bringing in $24.8 million for the primary during the first three months of 2007, compared to $19.1 million for Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

By the end of 2007, Obama had raised $102 million. He won the Iowa primary on Jan. 3, 2008, and raised another $36 million that month.

Almost half of Obama’s money came from people donating $200 or less, compared with 34 percent for McCain, Bloomberg reported.

Obama on two occasions promised to work with McCain on an agreement to accept public financing. McCain did accept public financing, limiting his ability to raise private donations, but in June Obama reneged on his vows, enabling him to raise unlimited amounts from donors.

The press by and large did not hold Obama accountable for the broken promises. But McCain sharply criticized him, saying: “Twice he looked the American people in the eye and said he would sit down with me before he abandoned public financing. He didn’t mean a word of it. When it was in his interest to break his promise, he tossed it aside like it didn’t mean a thing.”

Obama’s fundraising “revolutionized the way presidential campaigns are financed and may kill the Watergate-era system of providing public money for the general election,” Bloomberg observed.

Free to raise unlimited funds, Obama’s campaign brought in at least $200 million in September and October, more than doubling the amount available to McCain.

Obama’s huge edge in finances enabled him to devote nearly three times as much as McCain to advertising, with the Democrat spending $21.5 million to McCain’s $7.5 million from Oct. 21 to Oct. 28 as Election Day neared.

On the day before the election, Obama ran 3,410 ads in seven competitive states, while McCain ran only 1,900.

Obama also far outspent McCain on staff salaries, helping him to open field offices and fund a get-out-the-vote effort.

But an investigation by Newsmax correspondent Kenneth R. Timmerman has uncovered numerous examples of questionable donations, including those originating from foreign sources in apparent violation of laws forbidding candidates from accepting foreign money.

# On Sept. 29, Timmerman first disclosed that more than half of the $426.9 million Obama had raised at that point came from small donors whose names the Obama campaign would not disclose — making it impossible to verify that donors were not surpassing the $2,300 an individual can contribute to a candidate for the general election.

# The Federal Election Commission cited a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Tex. A Newsmax analysis of the master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, totaling $17,375.

Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations. The donor listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.” Some of Doodad Pro’s donations were refunded by the campaign, but as of Sept. 20 more than $11,000 had not been returned.

# Timmerman disclosed that the FEC compiled a database of potentially questionable overseas donations totaling $3.38 million. The funds came from such places as Abu Dhabi, Beijing, and Ethiopia.

In June, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a speech in which he claimed foreign nationals were contributing to Obama’s campaign.

# Timmerman also reported that donors from the Gaza Strip had contributed $33,000 to the Obama campaign through the purchase of Obama T-shirts they had shipped to Gaza.

# Timmerman published a new report on Oct. 8, disclosing that an investigation of Obama’s campaign finance reports turned up more than 2,000 cases in which individuals made donations far above the legal limit of $2,300 per election.

For example, in August the campaign filed a report listing a single donation from a Debra Myers in “Rancho Palos Verde, Calif.,” for $28,500, and a $28,500 contribution from a donor identified as Woodrow Myers Jr.

The Obama campaign said it had refunded both donations on Sept. 30, the day after Newsmax published Timmerman’s first report.

# Timmerman followed up with a new report on Oct. 19, disclosing that more than 37,000 Obama donations appeared to be conversions of foreign currency, totaling as much as $63 million.

The red flag was the odd amounts donated by a number of suspected foreign donors. One contributor gave $188.67, $1,542.06, $876.09, $388.67, $282.20, $195.66, and $118.15.

“They are obviously converting from local currency to U.S. dollars,” said Ken Boehm, chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center.

# On Oct. 21, Timmerman revealed that the Obama campaign had accepted contributions from donors identifying themselves as King Kong, Daffy Duck, and Bart Simpson — without any apparent effort by the campaign to screen them out as suspect donors.

An individual using the name “O.J. Simpson” donated to the campaign on Oct. 14, giving his occupation as “convict.” The campaign sent O.J. a thank-you note.

# Other donors with clearly fictitious names include “Dertey Poiiuy,” “Mong Kong,” “Fornari USA,” and “jkbkj Hbkjb.”

# Timmerman reported on Oct. 29: “A Newsmax investigation of Obama/Biden campaign contributors, undertaken in conjunction with a private investigative firm headed by a former CIA operations officer, has identified 118 donors who appear to lack U.S. citizenship.

“Some of these ‘red flag’ donors work for foreign governments; others have made public statements declaring that they are citizens of Cameroun, Nigeria, Pakistan, Canada, and other countries.”

Frederick W. Rustmann Jr., the former CIA operations officer, told Newsmax: “Hillary and McCain demanded proof of citizenship of all their donors. Obama did not, so he benefitted by receiving an enormous amount of money from foreign donors who wanted to influence the U.S. election process.”

The conservative Heritage Foundation has taken the first step in what could be an in-depth investigation of Obama’s fundraising efforts, demanding that the FEC audit the Obama campaign.

The foundation issued a release on Tuesday declaring: “No doubt there is great ‘cause’ to be concerned about Obama’s fundraising effort.”

posted 11-14-2008 12:47 PM                  

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Originally posted by ed monahan:
So that means Obama is not even starting to make any long term plans ? Or is the long term plan to blame Bush for everything for another 4 years.
The platform was CHANGE. He didn't have anything pre-planned and now he admits he didn't know it was bad and things were going to be tough ?
The next four years are going to be fun for us loudmouths. lol

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I told myself I was not going to respond to any more political threads but here goes anyway.
Ed, you said the more things change the more they stay the same. Things can't begin to change if your not in office. You never mentioned long term plans. Keep the focus now.

Is the long term plan to blame Bush? You mean like the last eight years were Clintons fault? What goes around comes around. Why not?

Political discussions are good ways to hear both sides but when they get to sounding like old ladies at the hair salon with nothing to back them up I would rather step aside and read something else.
For those that listen to all right wing or all left wing news media and talk radio, you are not getting the full story. I'm sure everyone has said it before "There are two sides to every story"
Everyone should check the facts first but they don't and they just post rumors and heresay.

The extreme right tried to scare everyone into thinking Obama was a terrorist because he knew William Ayeres. Well it didn't work, did it? I wonder how many people that were against the Vietnam war saw through that ploy? I know some people that believed it and couldn't be convinced otherwise. We would all be in deep s**t if we were guilty by association.

posted 11-17-2008 06:39 AM                  

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Originally posted by PROWLEU:
And ain't it interesting that two days after Nobama was elected, his web site took down all the "promises and changes" he was campaigning on. Coincidence? - you tell me.

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NO,,,,say it ain't so!

Does this mean that the Messiah isn't going to make my car payment, mortgage payment,,,,and gasoline fill-ups? He promised,,,to get the votes!