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posted 10-01-2015 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NullMind     send a private message to NullMind   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by NullMind
So, I have now had the Prowler for 2 months, bought it almost 6 months ago but took a while to receive it, in my (short) experience, what have I learned so far ?

The prowler is a gas guzzler
No if or buts about it, this thing can drink, granted if you live in an area where you will be driving it on long stretches of road, it's better, but for the city !, it will require quite a bit of gas, this is not a car for London driving and it's constant stop and go.

The engine is NOT underpowered
By all means somebody explain to me who in their right mind thinks this V6 should have been bigger, it accelerates quite nicely and nobody in their right mind would go much into triple digits on this car, it does start to get real testing at 110+mhz, so why have an engine that can do 200mph when the car can't ? only for the sound of the V8 .. not for the power of it!

You MUST be a good/responsible driver
I would not advise a Prowler for novice drivers, this car has limited visibility and at times feels the back wheels want to overtake the front if you have bad road traction, an experienced drivers will know how to drive, park and manoeuvre this car, an inexperience one will hit every curbing and loose traction by speeding up at the wrong turn.

People can’t stop taking pictures !
Doesn’t matter if you decided to cruise the boulevard or simply stopped at the shop for a pint of Milk, turn around and there will ALWAYS be somebody taking a picture of the car, folks simply can’t get enough of it!

People are very respectful of the Car
If people want a picture and they seem me coming out of the car, they will politely ask iff they can snap a photo, I have also seen instances where people have parked next to it, looked over and then pull out so they can park another foot or more away from it, afraid to hit it with the door, this is not like a Lambo or a Porsche, where people thing the owner must be a cock, people genuinely care for this car.

The car of 1000 smiles
People just smile at it, it conjures a feeling of happiness, I never saw anybody look at it and have that face of “what is this s****” .. old and new they all smile, I get a feeling people actually are happy for you for driving such a cool car, instead of jealous or annoyed by it.

Kids go crazy
What else is to say, boy or girl, they just go mental … it’s my favourite sighting ever !

Engine revving requests!
I have lost count at how many times I have been asked to rev the engine while I'm stopped at traffic lights .. no thank you, I'm not 18 !

Everybody thinks it costs allot more than it does
Anybody that speaks to me that risks asking for price always looks confused when I say the price-range … nobody who is not in the know ever expected this car to be below 100k, so I actually stopped saying the price, I just say “it was that or a Porsche”

It’s a cruiser
This is not a car to speed down the highway at 100Mph, this is a bonafide cruiser, best feeling ever is to drive it slow somewhere nice, enjoying the sound it makes and the feeling it gives.

I keep F***** the hardtop every time I take it out
Every single time !!!, I always manage to mess something on it, a ding, a scratch or something else … so I will stop messing with it !!

Be prepared to be very frustrated by other drivers on the road
Time and time again I find myself unable to drive normally because of the people on the road, I lost count of how many times I wish to overtake a slow driver in front of me, just to be blocked by the driver on the side of me that won’t speed up because he wants to stay on my side and admire the car, drives me nuts !!, yes it’s beautiful … now MOVE !!

Be also prepared for everybody to make way for you in traffic
Thats the positive side, if I am on traffic and I wish to change lanes, as soon as I hit my indicator, the people on the other side always let me in right away, people love to be nice to your car

Filling it up with Gas is also at times annoying
Gosh, I know the whole “turn the gaz nozzle to 10:00”, but every time I go fill it up the gas pump just keeps on shutting down, you rotate it right/left and every position in between, but it’s still quite a PITA.

I get butterflies every time
Not sure this feeling will ever go away, every single time I sit on the driver’s seat, I get butterflies in my stomach, it’s such a cool car to drive

Everybody is your new friend
People stop me everywhere I go, they just want to say Hi, and speak about the car, people who usually would not give you the time of the day, all of the sudden they want to know you .. and the car, if you are the shy type, this is not a car for you!

People in UK keep thinking it’s a KIT car
Yeah, everybody thinks this is a KIT car, something you built yourself, they get quite surprised when you explain it’s not, they also don’t have a clue who “Plymouth” is .. you have to explain the whole Chrysler connection.

Very easy to clean
I find the easy to clean, no real weird angles to mop, and all very accessible, even the wheels (standard) are nice and big with no small nooks to trap dirt, very easy to keep clean indeed

I am scared straight of scratching the flame paint job
While having a cool custom paint job is awesome, I live in fear of messing it up with a scratch, it would be hell to repair properly, but you only live once and I try to minimize my worry, but it’s a concern, don’t do custom flames unless you can live with the risk!

My GF feels like a movie star
It’s great to have something that gives you pleasure, but it’s even greater to have something that gives those close to you lots of enjoyment as well, when she enters the car she always makes sure to fix her hair and put on sunglasses, she knows there will be loads of pictures taken, she says it really makes her feel like she is a star with all the people looking at us … I don’t have the heart to tell her it’s the car, not her, let her have her moment !

You can go crazy on customising it
While my car was already heavily customised by the previous owner, I haven’t stopped, and doubt it will ever come to a point I will say “ok, I’m done” … if you are they type that likes customising, this car seems to always have something else you can change, it’s quite fun (albeit expensive)

Do paint the interior bits
I had the radio console, door opener bezel, shifter bezel and tach painted in the colour of the car, and I believe that makes a major difference, feels like it should have been from factory and really livens up the interior.

FUN
And to end .. it’s just FUN, puts a big smile on your face and you know you driving something truly special


… Granted I have not yet gone trough any problems or maintenance woes, replaced the driver’s side window motor and the fuel pump with Tom’s products, other than that so far so good, upkeep over the next few years will determine how easy it is to maintain, but it’s a labour of love and it’s not like maintaining an every day car, with this one you don’t actually mind.

This message has been edited by NullMind on 10-01-2015 at 08:35 AM

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that about sums it up!!!
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Forgot to add to the list

Politics !!
Man, people on the POA forum sure love to discuss politics ... more than they discuss the cars

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When your filling it with gas, try not sticking the nozzle all the in, back it out a little and hold the handle.
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posted 10-01-2015 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Great summary and I agree almost 100 % with all of it.
We have been talking about the car for 17 or 18 years, the politics keep changing (but seem to stay the same). God save the Queen.
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Didn't you just get married ?????
This is not going to end well if you keep hanging out with us for long periods of time.
Please feel free write a summary of your marriage after the initial 6 month period.

enjoy your life............happy wife happy life.

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Originally posted by robin:
Didn't you just get married ?????
This is not going to end well if you keep hanging out with us for long periods of time.

It's tomorrow that I get married !!!

Enjoying my last day of freedom today

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My GF feels like a movie star
It’s great to have something that gives you pleasure, but it’s even greater to have something that gives those close to you lots of enjoyment as well, when she enters the car she always makes sure to fix her hair and put on sunglasses, she knows there will be loads of pictures taken, she says it really makes her feel like she is a star with all the people looking at us … I don’t have the heart to tell her it’s the car, not her, let her have her moment !


I'm sure she knows it's the Prowler, but she still has to look good in the pictures. They will most likely in up on the internet, so she might actually be some what of a star.

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quote: "You MUST be a good/responsible driver"

Carlos,,,here's where we may differ some, among other things, lol

Yes, you must be a good driver......while learning that the Prowler right front wheel is exposed to traffic, curbs, signs, fire hydrants, etc etc I remember one young couple who bought a Prowler, and within a few days made a right turn and jumped the curb and took down a sign pole......tearing up the right front A-arm suspension/fender/wheel. You need a week or so to learn to drive these cars. Also, removing the sunvisors and windshield wipers greatly improve road visibility (use several coats of Rain-X)


IMO, those owners who drive their Prowlers many miles, as opposed to the garage queen owners, are mostly irresponsible in their driving habits once behind the wheel of the cat. I'm sure they are responsible drivers in their other, daily drivers I've been on too many cruises with other Prowlers, and can testify that many are crazy drivers at times!


quote: "My GF feels like a movie star"

Carlos,,,from my observations, she looks like a movie star without you or your Prowler... She doesn't need you, and she could have done better finding a Lambo or Ferrari owner, lol.

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Originally posted by garysss:
When your filling it,,,,,,

try not sticking the nozzle all the way in, back it out a little and hold the handle.



Gary,,,,his g/f (full name unknown) posted on her Facebook page that Carlos for sure wasn't equipped with enough to make that statement you made of him

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Well I thought with this being his 3rd wedding he might have more control, but then again that might just be the problem.
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Great post and you nailed it…. Once this car gets under your skin (And it is).. for most it’s a Life-Long obsession and deservedly so. You will care for it more than your girlfriend, work, or just about anything else. To me, it’s a once in a life time experience that only Prowler owners really get…
Enjoy the smiles as that will never stop...Congratulations and enjoy!!!…

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Good summary of your 2 months of able to drive your cat

Your GF / future wife is beautiful, so she wants to look her best in all those pictures. The pictures never stop. Still to this day get pictures of the car driving down the road, at stop lights or parking lot.

As far as filling with fuel, I find if the front end is down and right side up slightly it fills better. This gets the inlet to the tank to where it is at its highest point. If the back is down and front up the tank inlet is lower and then the gas backs up in the neck easier. Hope you understand my explaination.

As far as being thirsty, well I get 17-19 mpg around town, 20-21 on highway. Might not be the best but it was my economy car till I got my Mustang and now it gets the best mileage of all my vehicles.

AC's suggestion of removing the sunvisors & wipers, the sun visors do help some, but I run mine for years without them. But he lives in AZ and it hardly ever rains there, so no windshield wipers are not a big deal for some, but from what I have seen about England I would not advise doing this for safety. You will get use to it and then it will not be as much of a problem.

A front and rear camera might be a good addition for parking and protecting the nice flame paint.

Color does liven up the interior, good choice in painting, but also remember that sometimes KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) comes into play. Modifications can be over done.

Hope you enjoy your 3rd time as much as you are your Prowler. There will be difficult days but at the end of the day step back and admire what you love about it!

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
quote: [B]"You MUST be a good/responsible driver"

Carlos,,,here's where we may differ some, among other things, lol

Yes, you must be a good driver......while learning that the Prowler right front wheel is exposed to traffic, curbs, signs, fire hydrants, etc etc I remember one young couple who bought a Prowler, and within a few days made a right turn and jumped the curb and took down a sign pole......tearing up the right front A-arm suspension/fender/wheel. You need a week or so to learn to drive these cars. Also, removing the sunvisors and windshield wipers greatly improve road visibility (use several coats of Rain-X)


IMO, those owners who drive their Prowlers many miles, as opposed to the garage queen owners, are mostly irresponsible in their driving habits once behind the wheel of the cat. I'm sure they are responsible drivers in their other, daily drivers I've been on too many cruises with other Prowlers, and can testify that many are crazy drivers at times!


Perhaps I should have used the term "responsible" only, but I still would not be comfortable in advising the prowler to anybody inexperienced


quote:
: "My GF feels like a movie star"

Carlos,,,from my observations, she looks like a movie star without you or your Prowler... She doesn't need you, and she could have done better finding a Lambo or Ferrari owner, lol.[/B]


Suuuuuush !!! .. don't let her know that

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by garysss:
[B]When your filling it,,,,,,

try not sticking the nozzle all the way in, back it out a little and hold the handle.


Gary,,,,his g/f (full name unknown) posted on her Facebook page that Carlos for sure wasn't equipped with enough to make that statement you made of him

[/B]


Well, I heard it's girth not length that matter

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Originally posted by WildCat:
[B]Good summary of your 2 months of able to drive your cat

Thanks

quote:

Your GF / future wife is beautiful, so she wants to look her best in all those pictures. The pictures never stop. Still to this day get pictures of the car driving down the road, at stop lights or parking lot.

She sure is, still not sure why we settled for a guy like me .. and I can't wait to take my car back home to the Azores, people there will love it also

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As far as filling with fuel, I find if the front end is down and right side up slightly it fills better. This gets the inlet to the tank to where it is at its highest point. If the back is down and front up the tank inlet is lower and then the gas backs up in the neck easier. Hope you understand my explaination.

I see, I will try to remember that

quote:

As far as being thirsty, well I get 17-19 mpg around town, 20-21 on highway. Might not be the best but it was my economy car till I got my Mustang and now it gets the best mileage of all my vehicles.

I guess I just got used to the european cars again and their low mileage, heck when I was in the State my car was a Grand Cherokee limited, and I recall I was getting 14 mpg on that thing .. but then again, petrol was $0.95 per gallon ... good times !!

quote:

AC's suggestion of removing the sunvisors & wipers, the sun visors do help some, but I run mine for years without them. But he lives in AZ and it hardly ever rains there, so no windshield wipers are not a big deal for some, but from what I have seen about England I would not advise doing this for safety. You will get use to it and then it will not be as much of a problem.

TBH I don't believe you can actually do that here, it will fail the M.O.T. (annual car test)

quote:

A front and rear camera might be a good addition for parking and protecting the nice flame paint.

Already fitted front and rear parking sensors and a rearview camera, but my biggest fear is vandals actually scratching it, there is a known incident here of a couple of months ago of some guy that was filmed keying a Aston Martin .. check it out .. cringeworthy !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dydfyg1yVdI

Why do people do things like that ? beats me

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Color does liven up the interior, good choice in painting, but also remember that sometimes KISS (KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID) comes into play. Modifications can be over done.

True, as a product designer, I am a firm believer in keeping it simple, but the prowler interior is a little bland ...

quote:

Hope you enjoy your 3rd time as much as you are your Prowler. There will be difficult days but at the end of the day step back and admire what you love about it!

You bet, like today I found out the battery was on the way out, as the idiot I can be I went to buy another and didn't took the old one with me, so I endup getting the wrong one, had to go back and exchange it, then with the new battery in I found out I could not tighten the negative lead as even when it's fully tighten it's still too loose, so the lead jumps out and the car dies ... need to take it to mechanic tomorrow and fix that ... frustrating .. but heck, still loving it !!

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Originally posted by garysss:
My GF feels like a movie star
It’s great to have something that gives you pleasure, but it’s even greater to have something that gives those close to you lots of enjoyment as well, when she enters the car she always makes sure to fix her hair and put on sunglasses, she knows there will be loads of pictures taken, she says it really makes her feel like she is a star with all the people looking at us … I don’t have the heart to tell her it’s the car, not her, let her have her moment !


I'm sure she knows it's the Prowler, but she still has to look good in the pictures. They will most likely in up on the internet, so she might actually be some what of a star.


I wish facebook had a reverse picture lookup like google does, I am sure all of our prowlers are present in countless people's posts

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Null,,,,that might be true? TUIB always claims that...

but his New Castle nickname is > Half-Inch

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Carlos,,,are you posting while driving? On your g/f's Facebook page she said you had a doctor's appt. today, and then picking up the Viagra RX for the honeymoon....
She's concerned about you going into Prowler 'LimpMode' Is there an E.D. problem you aren't discussing with us?

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Well I thought with this being his 3rd wedding he might have more control, but then again that might just be the problem.

If I had proper control I would have been married once only

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Originally posted by ALLEY CAT:
Null,,,,that might be true? TUIB always claims that...

but his New Castle nickname is > Half-Inch

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Carlos,,,are you posting while driving? On your g/f's Facebook page she said you had a doctor's appt. today, and then picking up the Viagra RX for the honeymoon....
She's concerned about you going into Prowler 'LimpMode' Is there an E.D. problem you aren't discussing with us?


No, the viagra is for the Car .. watch this AD and you will understand why
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lcc62nrl9Y

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Originally posted by NullMind:
Forgot to add to the list

[B]Politics !!
Man, people on the POA forum sure love to discuss politics ... more than they discuss the cars [/B]


Its an election year, and Prowler has been around since 1993 ... LOL

Also, if you own a leaf blower, works GREAT on helping to dry around the front suspension, front grill, rear trans cooler, and other little bit area ... then towel dry to finish!

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You nailed it in your original post.
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NullMind, your right on point. I'm just like you, when a driver is on my side who will not speed up or pass me because he or she is admiring the car. Drives me NUTS too.
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We are all glad your are enjoying your Prowler! Hope you have many, many, years of happy cruise time together!

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