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posted 02-26-2013 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
Had my Mercedes out for a little drive around and the front tire was flat when I parked in the garage. No problem, took tire off and today went to Discount Tires to see what my problem was. I was going to get air and to find the leak, but guess what, if the tire is over 10 years old they won't touch it. So I guess its new tires. Problem is 6 of my cars have the same problem. The kat tires are 12 years old, do you think it's time. Should I get run flats or what set up do you think is better. they are old but they only have 2300 miles on them (wait ) Thanks in advance.

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posted 02-26-2013 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Was having a conversation last night about tire age

My dart has about 6,000 miles and the tires are red lines I put on in 2005, so do I need to change them?

My prowler still has the originals with 37,000 miles, yes they need changed, fronts look good, rear not so good. I bought a set of take off tires with 3,500 miles, but off a 2000, so do I use them or buy brand new set. Bought them long before they recommended 7 years.

Prowler trailer, again look good but are old and don't want to have a blow out and destroy a fender

Motorcycle, yep, they are old

It is so hard to tell. Tires look good outside, plenty of tread and just priced new tires for mustang, OUCH!

Oh and my 1981 Imperial mom bought new Oct. 21, 1980 15,300 miles never had a flat or repair of any kind so I tell everyone still has factory air in the tire. Afraid to drive it due to tires,so bought another car to get another set of wheels to restore and put new tires on so I can drive it without fear of blowing a tire and damaging the car or wheel.

I think I will be tire poor before it ends.

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posted 02-26-2013 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionberger     send a private message to lionberger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by lionberger
Discount Tire is not the only game in town. You can probably find a local garage to help you out. Tires can be marginal before ten years or in good condition well after that time. Modern compounds are far more resistant to dry rot than in the past. Condition depends on a lot of factors such as typical usuage, where the car is stored, etc. I just replaced the original tires on my 97 last year and only because of tread wear.

As far as run flat tires I don't know what is available that will work but the original Goodyears are no longer available. Good luck.

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posted 02-26-2013 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
if you have a puncture 3 inches to either side of center reg.tire stores will not fix it.when i need one fixed i take it to a small independant tire store in phx.they will put a patch on the inside.

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I know this is a little off the topic but has anyone found a spare tire that will work. Is it the same 5 on 4 1/2 inch bolt pattern from older rear wheel drive chryslers? Also if I do find a wheel that will bolt up, will a different diameter tire harm the transmission? I don't take the car too far from the house so I thought having a spare at home would be a good idea if I go to non run flats.

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do you have 2 spare tires?
back uses 20" front uses 17".
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Originally posted by Zapcopd:
I know this is a little off the topic but has anyone found a spare tire that will work. Is it the same 5 on 4 1/2 inch bolt pattern from older rear wheel drive chryslers? Also if I do find a wheel that will bolt up, will a different diameter tire harm the transmission? I don't take te car too far from the house so I thought having a spare at home would be a good idea if I go to non run flats.

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posted 02-26-2013 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
yes he has 2 spares,he straps them to the deck lid.

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with that being said, what does one do when driving away from home. What do Prowler's owners do if a tire goes bad?
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I have asked the same question about loosing a tire while away from home. Once the car is not driveable call a roll back and get it off the road first. Worst case senerio, what if you loose a wheel, say a bent rim? Some steel rim would probably fit with a similar diameter to get you home but which one? The last time I asked one guy said he had extra wheels at home and had a plan to have a neighbor fed ex a wheel overnight.
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I don't take the car far from home. If I could use a steel wheel off of a old RWD Chrysler it would allow me to get the car home without the hassle of calling a flat bed. Yes, I would still have to call someone to pick up the spare but a least I could get the car home. Just wondering if anyone had tried this.

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posted 02-26-2013 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Tire plugs and a compressor.
And I don't have runflats. I have had several flat tires, at home and on the road. Take side cutters so you can grip the nail, screw or whatever and pull it out. Plug it, fill it with air and be on your way.
If your tires are directional, like runflats, you need 4 spares, not two.

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posted 02-27-2013 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for enzvoy     send a private message to enzvoy   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by enzvoy
same here
Tire plugs and a compressor.
And I don't have runflats
I have driven the car around 14,000 miles without an incident
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My last 3 sets of tires have been non-runflats. With the them and the Wonderbar my Cat rode and handled better than ever. I too carry a plug kit and a small compressor, though I've never had a flat with the non-runflats.

As far as the discussion goes about tire life. Some say the tires are bad and some say they are OK. Because a bad tire can cause a lot of inconvenience, damage, or even death I tend to side with the thinking that replacing them when they get old is the safest and best policy. Too critical a part to have anything there but the best in my opinion.

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I never worried about tires getting too old - I drove my Prowler way too much and way too hard to ever worry about the tires getting old.

Norm - you have a lot of cars to consider when you make a decision about replacing tires. I believe I would look at the cars you drive the most; the ones you may take on out of town trips and consider replacing those tires first. With only 2300 miles on your Prowler it doesn't seem you get very far away from home with that vehicle so if you were to have a flat tire, at least they are runflats and/or the tow to a shop wouldn't very far and you wouldn't be stranded a long distance out of town. If you do replace them, I would suggest the non runflats to improve the ride quality and your driving enjoyment when you do drive the Prowler.

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Norm,,,,I think Marty is giving you some good advice

I wouldn't change the Prowler tires at this point...

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I think the fact that most of our prowlers are storied inside out of heat and sunlight will make them last longer than normal tires.
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quote:
Originally posted by garysss:
I think the fact that most of our prowlers are storied inside out of heat and sunlight will make them last longer than normal tires.

agree

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Marketing! Don'tcha just love it!

Marketing 101:

There is no better way to sell more of a product than to convince the user that your product has a limited lifespan and it's not their fault.
Heck! We're only trying to save you from damage or even death if you don't spend more of your hard earned money with us.

The tire companies wisely followed the lead of the lube stop and oil companies in promoting this type of scare tactic marketing.

Read any manufacturers handbook regarding oil changes, they all have 6000 or more between oil changes. The lube and oil companies tell you that you need to change your oil every 2500 miles.

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The only tires that I change on a schedule are tandem axle trailer tires. I change at the start of the fifth season and you can see the signs that they should be replaced even with lots of tread remaining. My friends line up and use them as spares.

All other tires are closely checked at the beginning of each season. Vehicles are stored indoors most of the year. Inflation pressures checked at least monthly and tires inflated to their indicated side wall maximum before long term storage. Tires tend to fail from under inflation and weathering. You can observe the cracking as a tire ages. Cracks occur near the bead and at the bottom of tread blocks. Yes, older tires get hard and don't offer the same traction as a fresh tire but you can't automatically assume that they are bad and going to fail.

I have a friend that has an old custom car built by his uncle in the late '40's early '50's. They installed new tires on it in 1953 and filled the tires with nitrogen. The tires are still inflated and there are no signs of cracking.

The major tire stores have these policies to limit their liability and protect themselves. These are also most likely the stores that carefully torque your wheels each time they provide a service to protect your investment. They check build dates and tread depth each time for the same reason. People are always looking to blame someone else when a problem occurs.

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I just within the past two weeks had Kaufman Tire inspect the tires on my Prowler. They could find very little to no evidence of tire cracking and they said I should be fine with these tires. The fronts are from 2000 and the rears from 2005 or 2007(can't remember). I do plan to replace my Prowler Trailer tires if we take any long trips driving the Prowler. But with gas prices what they are that is not likely to happen anytime soon. I did replace the car hauler tires last year before we trailered the Prowler to Vegas.
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Thank you all on the good advise.

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The beauty of sticking with your run flats, a low pressure light flashes, you "usually" have affordable time to take care of it, has at least been my experience. Mine had a plug in the left front when l bought it 7yrs ago, have had no issues with it. l ran over a hell of a thick screw that drove straight in my left rear tire two years ago, picked up a plug kit on my way home, has not leaked. l was only 15 min from home but was not disabled by the nearly pinky thick screw that stuck and tapped our way home.
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Drew, what run flats would you buy today? I am looking for some that match front and rear and can't find any? Suggestions would be helpful.
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Padroo...I have 28k on mine and have not looked for replacements, still decent tread on originals. I will have the same problem someday, sorry l don't have a better answer for you right now, will let you know if l find a matching set..if there is such a thing.

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