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The cool folks over at carbuzz.com
Just wrote up a cool article on the hemi prowler .
It's interesting how each different writer spins and captures the story in there own view.

http://m.carbuzz.com/Article.aspx?Id=10575

They also have a overall article on the prowler early this year and one on a Titan motorsports custom.
This one looks like it has alot of pictures from folks on the site.
Plymouth’s Retro Hot Rod: In Appreciation of the Prowler http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2012/1/8/Plymouth-s-Retro-Hot-Rod-In-Appreciat ion-of-the-Prowler-7706697

I really like there webpage and moble ap for the latest car news.

Not a bad one.
We are also supposed to be featured on the next modern mopar magazine which also gets printed. Will keep you posted when it's published.

Trey www.facebook.com/hemiprowler


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Trey, I'm proud and happy for you. i think you have done an amazing job and I admire your courage and commitment.

But this is my honest feeling about this particular article and if I met the author this is what I would say to him:

Trey did an amazing thing but you should not be building up his Prowler by knocking down the rest. Comments like "the Prowler needs and deserves a V8", it's engine did not back up it's looks, Trey is setting the Prowler right", "this Prowler has the power it always deserved", just don't sit right with me.

Maybe I'm just being bitchy here but Prowlers have a V6 engine which I believe backs up it's looks and is a true Prowler.

Your amazing car is a converted Prowler. I know you did not write this article. Sorry for the rant but that's the feeling I got when I read it.

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How's the acceleration now? What does it feel like?
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Beachkat I feel you. Please note that this is the authors point of view not mine. On this one I was not personally interviewed or talked to someone in person. I shared an article idea by email with a link to the allpar site and POA and few pictures and the this morning I woke up and an article was published online. I'm the last guy to put down in owners I love this car and over 11 years of ownership and all of the friends I have met.
Big conversations are risky business anyway you spin it. Like most of The (go fast guys)I Missed almost a whole season without the car to get it right and follow a dream.

From the start of time every article has something to say about the prowler. In reality in its stock form is one of the most radical and unquie cars ever built and a true head turner.
We all love it. No matter what we do to it from flames to removing bumper to putting a ugly shaker on the car people will have there opinions.
I have people sending messages all of the time that this was a crazy idea or why would you do that. It's all good. I take it for what it is an opinion and back every one with the facts that it was one of the fastest cars out there at the time, there was no hemi in 97-02 the v8 was less powerful.
That much of what was done on the prowler set the stage for many newer cars. I think the guys got it right and it's a blast. The fact it took over 10 months to put a hemi in tell me and us all somthing about the process and the engineers knew what they where doing.

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Trey thanks for your reply and editing the original post to reflect that these are not your opinions.I knew they weren't but the article might infer that to some. Just had to relate my initial response on it and hope you aren't offended.

Like I said, you have done an amazing thing!

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quote:
Originally posted by EssexExport:
How's the acceleration now? What does it feel like?

Bob promise when back in NJ your in it.
After about 300 miles on the street must say its very different and have to learn to drive it again.

As always here goes the honest truth no butter coating or secrets

Tranny still is a pinch point on the build so have to watch the hard torque hits. It was not designed for so much power of the 6.1. We did rebuild and upgrade the Trans but it's still not like the Bolt on srt Trans that takes all of the shock connected to the engine.

Driving is a big difference than stock and a bit hard to describe but does fly. It's still a stock srt motor so its very driveable for cruising etc just like a normal hemi car which is great.

If you step on the gas the motor will remind you quickly what your dealing with. Wheels start a spinning with the light weight and you have to ease into it to properly hook up.

On the drag track before with the V6 I could slam it to the floor all the way through and then keep it in 3rd.. In most driving today no more than 50% is needed. Wheel spin Is on demand with the light weight so have keep a smart foot and in control. If I floor the srt from a stand still and run all the way hard Wide open trottle through the gears all out I think I will be sitting on a bunch tranny parts in the rear end.

Its also different with the 4 speed with autostick which is different than an 5 speed Hemi car. I find myself needing to drive in kind of manual mode when driving more agressively. The Trans computer still thinks more like a V6.
Another big difference is the prowler was a manual cable trottle. Hemi is electronic. We had to covert the whole pedal assembly to a hemi based one. This changed the driving a bit also. Electronic is much more responsive.

For an example if your driving in a normal prowler in 4th gear crusing down the highway at like 60 and jump on the gas, the v6 car kind of drifts up slowly or the computer may down shift the car to 3rd to give the 3.5 more passing power. On the SRT hemi there is power everywhere and revs much higher. One time the computer down shifted like a v6 to thrid and the car just took off. Reved up crazy high and the hemi was like vroom! I had to let off the gas. I can just press the gas in forth and pass pretty easy.

Any srt owners know what I mean with the higher RPM and strong power bands.

In talking with gofast Jordan with the 5.0 supercharged kinda have to learn how to drive with auto stick when pushing it.
Best thing I can do is repost the gopro video. Watch and listen to some of the shifts. I will hav more over the next few months.

Long post but I'm keeping it real no question it's a custom build and tweaking process there is no instruction guide.
Also have to watch the engine temps. Prowler engine bay is about half the size of a normal Srt to diffuse heat. Shaker, bigger radiatior and some special cooling tricks are helping.
Click link below of you get to the 2min mark on the video you will here that power shift I spoke of above.

http://youtu.be/Qt-K6ugBdRM

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Trey I take it you don't have the car home yet, right?
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Sounds Great
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Trey; you are the MAN!! sounds very exciting and i hope to see your car one of these days. hey beachkat, do not let the fools get under your skin. you know what you got and you enjoy it.
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Wow Trey - That is truly wild...... insane..... just be careful or that thing will surly get away from you. Heck with my stock 6 and the intake, exhaust and gears (I think you had that and more in this thing before you decided to "upgrade") I can hit it and lose control off the line, then at second gear go totally sideways on these cool Ohio Evenings..... great job man. Just be careful !

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Wow Trey - That is truly wild...... insane..... just be careful or that thing will surly get away from you. Heck with my stock 6 and the intake, exhaust and gears (I think you had that and more in this thing before you decided to "upgrade") I can hit it and lose control off the line, then at second gear go totally sideways on these cool Ohio Evenings..... great job man. Just be careful !

John


Your very right jon, and to Garys point above thats why I still have the car in NC where we do all of the testing and tuning close to the builder. Its is a blast to drive but definatly nothing to play with. We are talking electronics, drive tran and much more and most is custom. We are testing it in many different ways and Im doing a few more upgrades by choice as we speak for longevity and added performance. This is no Trailer queen.

I was told by the company that makes the wiring harnesses for converstions that 1 of the other 5.7 hemis and maybe one of the GM conversion that he supplied parts for had problems, one end up with a torn up drive shaft and another one had a spin out accident on the road. We are talking a 1400 lb difference than a normal SRT Hemi with the same Engine. You can see in the video I was taking it smart but at the same time pushing the limits a bit through the gears to get it all right!

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hey beachkat, do not let the fools get under your skin. you know what you got and you enjoy it.

Well I let the author know my thoughts and it looks like the article has now been edited. I guess I got under his skin.


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Now that is funny.
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Well I let the author know my thoughts and it looks like the article has now been edited. I guess I got under his skin.



Go get them beachkat the best we can do is put out the proper message. So when you see things post and give the prowler point of view. You must have gotten to them. Most of these people may have never driven the car.
Saw another viral spin off article this morning on auto evolution.com
Man this story is getting some nice press. No lambo doors on this prowler though. Some one must of read an old post on the POA article when we tried them. But ended up staying stock.
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/plymouth-prowler-gets-the-power-it-alwa ys-deserved-video-49036.html

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"With 425 hp in a vehicle which is not particularly heavy, performance should be much more to the liking of real driving enthusiasts."

Does this mean that the formula and indy cars with four cylinders do not appeal to "Real" driving enthusiasts? How about the NSX or TESLA, I guess they don't qualify either.

The stock Prowler as built is a good car for any enthusiast that "Get's it" but going one step further and adding a few HP doesn't hurt.

I am glad that Trey's car is getting good press.

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All I can say is join in on the action. Part of fixing the feedback requires us as owners to get involved and share our experiences. With only like 11k ever made very few people ever have had a chance to drive or be in one, so all they have is pictures, articles and the few car shows a prowler shows up.

All of theses article have places for comments. Feel free to add your 2 cents there. Here we are all prowler owners so we are talking to the choir on POA. The more we share the facts out side the family  the more people will know.

I'm blogging away on a number of sites and spreading the word

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As a new owner of an "under powered" 97' I can't understand the poor reviews that Prowlers got. I'd bet if they never opened the eng bay and took the test drive the "writers" would have loved it. It's the thoughts in the back of their head that blocks their real point of view from coming through.
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Me time
You right. Most people have never seen or rode. With the limited production. Your only 15 mins away here in nj. There is a number of us in the area. If you really want to have some fun. Right up the street from you at giants stadium they run autocross almost evey weekend in the parking lot with alot of cones. For 45 bucks or so you will have a great time really learning the fun of your new prowler. http://www.autox4u.com/
Very fun very safe at your own pace. See you on the streets soon.

In this pict you will see I had an instructor. I think I learned more about how to drive the car in 1 day than I did in 10 years of ownership. Really fun.

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I took a brand new 6L SSR standard for a test drive and at the encouragement of the salesman in the passenger seat " got on it " He went on about the " corvette engine " and all the power so I let him talk... after I got out he said " you must notice a big difference in the V8 and the 6 cyl your driving so that left it open for me to offer him a shotgun seat .... and I'm not afraid to go to the redline... He was amazed at how fast the Prowler was and admitted off the line it was much quicker than the SSR... It was a good day to drive the kat
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the prowler is very fast off the line with low weight and power delivery and big rear wheels. It gets off the line well and hooks up very well. Most stock prowlers especially with Gears will beat a majority of cars off the line for the first 30-40 feet in first and second. Its the mid to upper where we lose out.

So if you ever get questioned
Feel free to share any of these videos below with unbelivers. All of these vids are V6 prowler with gears. stick with 1/8 mile racing also.

1. Prowler beating a camaro and taking a z off the line http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6qWihD6b1s&lr=1

2. Prowler vs a big heavy Srt HEMI challenger, double HP but heavy, The prowler runs with him 50% or more down the track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-aiLiSts_s

3. Prowler vs Hemi 300- smoke him off the line catches me easly about 1/2 down the track http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cuGZMrckAI

Take that V8's. not bad for 3.5 V6.
click links above to view

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The V6 or V8 thing is a bunch of bull. "There is no substitute for cubic inches". All things being equal they would make about the same power. Do you think a Porsche should have a V8? I think it is all about mans ego, it helps make up for some of his other deficiencies. lol Please don't take me seriously!

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Another viral article from someone that never drove a prowler. Don't get upset it's a should of had a v8 one.

He also recommended that I should remove the side panels from the car.
http://dailyderbi.com/video-this-is-what-a-prowler-should-have-been/

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we were at a car show this past Sunday and a guy with his two kids pass by our cars and the kids said what a cool car it was and their father said "yeah but it's slow it doesn't have a V8 " the kids were about 8 yrs old ,WTF do they care ,it's still a cool car to them
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Originally posted by enzvoy:
we were at a car show this past Sunday and a guy with his two kids pass by our cars and the kids said what a cool car it was and their father said "yeah but it's slow it doesn't have a V8 " the kids were about 8 yrs old ,WTF do they care ,it's still a cool car to them

Should have ask dad what he drives. Most likely a Mini van, but I'm sure it fast.LOL

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Prowler 1999 - 2002 model
0-62 mph 5.9 seconds Weight 2,800 lbs
2009 Dodge Challenger R/T 0-60 mph in 5.9 seconds Weight 4,041 lbs
It doesn't feel slow to me.


quote:
Originally posted by enzvoy:
we were at a car show this past Sunday and a guy with his two kids pass by our cars and the kids said what a cool car it was and their father said "yeah but it's slow it doesn't have a V8 " the kids were about 8 yrs old ,WTF do they care ,it's still a cool car to them


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