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Me Time
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posted 07-25-2012 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Me Time     send a private message to Me Time   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Me Time
When repairing a flat tire would you prefer a plug or patch?

My mech. say a plug is best, I always thought of the two a patch was best and using both was even better still. But of the two choices whice would you rather have?

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posted 07-25-2012 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kees     send a private message to kees   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by kees
Had a flat on my Porsche 997 a while back and the dealer refused to plug it. It was not warranted by Porsche due to high speed restrictions.

Now that said, I have not spoken to any of the Prowler members yet that drove 200 MPH at highways but still..
If you patch it make sure not to damage your sensors and loose some of the chrome on the way.

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Kees

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Me Time
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posted 07-25-2012 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Me Time     send a private message to Me Time   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Me Time
Should have stated, this doesn't only go for Prowlers, could be any car any tire. Myself I'd rather plug it, cut off the lose on both ends then patch it or even put in a tube if you could still get one (sure you can't). But when having to choose just one option would you patch it or plug it?
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posted 07-25-2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NRVOUS     send a private message to NRVOUS   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by NRVOUS
Plug, and replace.
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posted 07-25-2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionberger     send a private message to lionberger   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by lionberger
Last week I had a staple cause a pretty good leak near the outside edge of the tread on my original Goodyears. I went to Belletire and they told me that a patch wouldn't last in that area. Since I bought a brand new set of Goodyears in Nov. of 2010 I had them install them. After fifteen years and a lot less tread it was time. A plug would have worked quite well and I plug leaks on my other cars with no problem.

I took the old tires home from Belletire and will plug the hole someday, just in case. Plugging is just as good as a patch and probably better.

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posted 07-25-2012 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
not sure about where you live,here in az.if the puncture is about 3 inches either side of center they wont repair it period.so i plug my own.they use the liability excuse,which is exactly what it is.

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posted 07-25-2012 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for garysss     send a private message to garysss   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by garysss
I have pluged many tires over the years on many different cars. I have never had one leak or any other problems with them.
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posted 07-26-2012 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RPL     send a private message to RPL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by RPL
We picked up a nail in the tire of one of the very early pre-production display cars. We called Goodyear and they were very upset until they discovered that the hole was in the main tread area within the belts and not near the side margins. At that point they told "just plug it."

I've done both, plugging and patching. Never had a problem with a good tire but unlike Kees, we don't run 200 MPH here. At least not that we'd admit. When I've run really fast, I want to know exactly where the tires came from and what they've been through

blue4two

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posted 07-26-2012 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue4two     send a private message to blue4two   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by blue4two
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Me Time
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posted 07-26-2012 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Me Time     send a private message to Me Time   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Me Time
I heard a commercial today about getting a flat tire @ 100 MPH while driving in a Baja race, they said to use this product that plugs your tire from the inside if you get a leak.

I remember stuff that mechnics hated from back in the 70's called fix a flat, don't know if it ever worked but tire shops hated the stuff.

Any comments on a new version of it?

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posted 07-26-2012 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alrtg     send a private message to alrtg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by alrtg
Back in the eighties Uniroyal sold a tire called "Royal Seal" that would self seal if punctured. I think the tire had a cavity between the inner casing and tread with a liquid of some sort (kind of like the fix a flat product).

My guess is that the tires did not sell well as I don't recall seeing anything like that in the market any longer.

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posted 07-26-2012 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
the tire didnt have a cavity,it had a thick layer/coating of some type of sealant on the inside that when punctured and the lets say nail removed,was sticky and flexible,would seal the puncture.it went away after radial tires came into production.

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posted 07-26-2012 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alrtg     send a private message to alrtg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by alrtg
Jan,

Thanks for the clarification. I had the impression that the Royal Seal tire was a radial but could recall incorrectly.

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I too have plugged many tires over the years without a problem. I've heard of many dealers over the past few years that refuse to plug a tire. Makes me wonder if they just want to sell a tire. If the tire on the other side is less than 50% maybe they can talk the customer into purchasing two tires.

This message has been edited by Zapcopd on 07-27-2012 at 08:08 AM

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I also have used plugs over the years. Put one in my off-road Jeep tire. It went over some pretty rough terrain. Never a problem. I put it in myself with a kit from Discount Auto Parts.
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posted 07-27-2012 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jimsutton     send a private message to jimsutton   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by jimsutton
Dealers make more money patching a tire . around $20.00 here and a plug set is around $6.00 with 4+ PLUGS in a kit .I have used both .
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I plugged one of the rear run flats on the prowler a couple of years ago, the kit recommends also patching, wasn't going to do that unless there was an issue, two years now w/ no need to patch
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posted 07-27-2012 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JeraneW     send a private message to JeraneW   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JeraneW
I pluged one of my Prowler rear tires about six or seven years ago and am still running that tire with no problems. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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My right rear tire was punctured and subsequently plugged. About every three weeks the warning light comes on and I fill it back up. I have been to four different tire stores and all say that since the tire is over ten years old, they are forbidden by their policy to fix it. I just keep putting more air in it.
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Try re-plugging it yourself. If you have to you can always have a tire shop dismount the tire, you can remove the old plug & then have them remount it. You don't even have to tell them what you are doing.
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posted 07-30-2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Are you positive the plug is leaking and you don't have another leak? I had a bad valve stem on the Goldwing, which is a 90 degree angle. I had it replaced when I got a new tire and still had a leak. Turns out I picked up a nail in the new tire almost immediately and kept blaming it on the valve stem.
I finally put soapy water on the valve stem to see if it was leaking around the outside or up through the middle.
It wasn't leaking at all so I put soapy water on the tire
while up on the center stand and finally saw a few bubbles.
It was a tiny brad or finishing nail.

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