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NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 04:31 PM
I have a close friend who because of me is now interested in getting a Prowler. My question is this would you pay a premium for a car that has had the fuel filler neck and hose replaced,Tom Mills window regulators replaced(both sides), and four perfect chrome wheels. I would say yes only cause these are items that most likely you would have to do,besides the wheels,if not already done. What are your thoughts? |
DES Prowler Junkie From:Valencia, Ca 91355 |
posted 05-16-2012 04:39 PM
I know of a killer yellow one for sale that makes the driver smile and the ladies excited |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 04:44 PM
If you were closer I would suggest it to him. quote: |
beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-16-2012 04:45 PM
quote: Hard to say. The Mills Regs have value. But it would depend on the rest of the car. |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 04:53 PM
Of course, what I mean is two similar vehicles but one having those let's say upgrades as opposed to one that wouldn't would the one that did command some sort of premium? quote: This message has been edited by SABYBY on 05-16-2012 at 04:54 PM |
beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 05-16-2012 05:00 PM
It's hard to place a value on modifications. But if it so happened that 2 identical cars were for sale but one had the mills regs, I would buy that one and maybe, and I mean maybe pay a few hundred more. What are the chances of that happening though? |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 05-16-2012 05:03 PM
Only a littel bit unless the other car being considered was having issues at the time of sale with pitting wheels or window regulators. My Prowler never had a problem with the fuel tank filler and many others don't either so I believe it would not add any value - just be considered a maintainance issue unless there was a problem with it now. JMO |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 05:13 PM
My thinking was this..... A set of aftermarket wheels would run about 1,300+, window regulators 700-1000 depending on if you are doing it yourself or a shop is dong it, along with 200 for a filler neck just in case. All together it's a good 2,500 worth of stuff he wouldn't have to do. |
Marty Usher POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 05-16-2012 05:20 PM
My thoughts would be if the fuel filler and wheels aren't showing problems by now, then there is no extra value. If the oteh car has either of those issues then yes, the one with repairs/good wheels is worth more. I will conceed that if the Tom Mills window regulato repair has been made there may some value to that. But I'm not the person buying the car so it would up to them to decide if that those things are worth anything to them.. This message has been edited by Marty Usher on 05-16-2012 at 05:21 PM |
DanMan POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:North Ft Myers, FL |
posted 05-16-2012 05:20 PM
I was speaking to a guy the other day at a car show. Has a purple 99, 7,000 miles. Car guy, wants a new toy, parting with Kat. Starting at 32k. Right up the NJ Turnpike. |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 05:41 PM
32k seems high for a 99 with 7k by what I see on eBay and other places. quote: |
WINDY CITY PROWLER POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:CHICAGO, ILLINOIS. USA |
posted 05-16-2012 05:44 PM
Personally if someone was selling a Prowler and they had those mods or extras i wouldn't pay any premium. JMO. |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 05:53 PM
How come? I for one know first hand that the regulators alone are very costly,and having known before buying mine that they would need to be replaced so soon I would have negotiated a lower price for the car to compensate for it. quote: This message has been edited by SABYBY on 05-16-2012 at 08:12 PM |
garysss POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Balto. Md. |
posted 05-16-2012 05:57 PM
Like others have said, it depends on whether other car has the problems and how much more is being asked. Regulators can be repaired for a couple of dollars. Filler neck is not a problem of most cars. Wheels depend on how bad they are and if you prefer a aftermarket wheel instead. |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-16-2012 06:23 PM
makes no diffrence,on what mods have been done,it does not add any value to the car. ------------------ |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 05-16-2012 07:02 PM
MOST Prowlers have not had filler neck problems or window problems. You only hear about the cars with the window problems, no one posts they don't have a problem. I would add VERY little to the value if I was buying. |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 07:40 PM
All very interesting points. |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 05-16-2012 08:50 PM
My opinion only... The filler neck replacement holds no value in this case. That was a TSB that they probably got taken care of under warranty and doesn't cost that much to have repaired at a dealer anyway. $150 at best ($45 or so in parts, the rest labor). I hear it's not hard to do yourself, but if he is not mechanically inclined at all, or just doesn't want to do it himself, and feels its an issue, there could be some value to him on that, but to me it's like sticking it to a sucker to charge more to say I had this TSB done. Not that many cars have a significant problem filling up, or owners feel any issues with it are not worth paying that much to fix. That problem is generally intermittant at most, and the fix doesn't always fix the problem. Some owners claim the fix didn't help. Just because the wheels are currently in good shape doesn't mean that they won't start peeling after he gets the car. Nor does it mean they will, but any added value IMO is minor there. If he didn't want aftermarket wheels and liked the stock wheels, if they begin peeling, they can be rechromed for (not looking up the actual price here) about $350 each. That would be a possible valueation on them. Mills regs changed over... I think they are $320 plus shipping appiece. Again, I'm hearing the install instructions are very good and detailed, but if he doesn't want to deal with putting them in himself, most get them installed for a couple hundred, but keep in mind, there are several in your area that will help with that for free. I think they would be nice to have in already, if the choice was there. Taking this all into account, I can't see adding $2500 to the value of the car. He can argue that the items aren't new, but are used. No different than someone taking out the Mills regs and selling them to you. Likely you wouldn't pay full price for used regs. If I considered all 3 things, I might pay $500/$800 more total for one car over the other. For the most part, mods are only in the eyes of the beholder. If having them makes a difference to the buyer, the buyer can place their value to them on them. But I don't consider good wheels and a filler neck mods. Well maintained... possibly. That said, I guess Texas is too far away too... (Hopefully I won't HAVE to sell. I'll know in 6 weeks or so.) |
catfish POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:scottsdale,az,usa |
posted 05-16-2012 09:17 PM
i have around 12.000 in mods on my car.using a average price of about 35.000,thats 47.000 it will never sell for that its still a 35.000 car. ------------------ |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 09:24 PM
That is a lucid, intelligent, well thought-out post. quote: |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-16-2012 09:28 PM
35,000 for a 1999? That seems really high,does it have a hardtop and trailer? QUOTE]Originally posted by catfish: i have around 12.000 in mods on my car.using a average price of about 35.000,thats 47.000 it will never sell for that its still a 35.000 car. [/QUOTE] |
StingRay POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Elk Grove Village, IL, USA |
posted 05-16-2012 10:58 PM
SAYbyby ... you have made two refeneces to prices being too high in this one single thread. Now, from a previous post of yours, we know that you would rather live in a cardboard box than sell your latest toy. However, as a dealer, which you said you were, if the right new toy came along, my bet is the Cat would be on the block for sale, after all, that is your business, right? ... and then, THEN you would be looking for the best price possible for your red Cat, no? This is an age old discussion here on POA, but we are our own worth enemies in driving the price of these cars down - with / without mods, accessories, etc. Not creating an argument, just offering up another well thought out, lucid point of view. Also, you friend would have a BLAST driving aroubd LA in a screaming yellow Prowler before making the enjoyable drive back across the USA! |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-17-2012 06:07 AM
I'm sorry StingRay but your post is neither well thought-out or lucid infact it seems to be quite the opposite as I don't really know where your going with it, lol. Thank you though for taking such an interest in me and remembering my posts it feels good to be loved,lol. And in regards to me making comments on two prices as being high, you are correct I am a dealer and from my research depending on options yes those two prices are on the high side. Maybe you should go back and read the question.Thanks quote: This message has been edited by SABYBY on 05-17-2012 at 06:25 AM |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-17-2012 06:12 AM
This message has been edited by SABYBY on 05-17-2012 at 06:16 AM |
NRVOUS POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Pa |
posted 05-17-2012 06:45 AM
Thanks to all that responded, some of you had some really great points and I appreciate you answering my question. |
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