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beachcat        BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 09-07-2011 02:32 PM
    
Another misinformed journalist on prowlers and vipers. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/833871-nfl-football-comparing-each-teams-defense-to-an-automobile |
BradleyG    POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, Texas |
posted 09-07-2011 03:21 PM
OOPS.. Roger, you are trying to be nice and you get one of the nicest guys here in an uproar. 1BuddyC isn't going to like this. But, That's not your fault that the REDSKINS are "lacking in power and drive". See page 32. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/833871-nfl-football-comparing-each-teams-defense-to-an-automobile#/articles/833871-nfl-football-comparing-each-teams-defense-to-an-automobile/pag e/32 This message has been edited by BradleyG on 09-07-2011 at 03:29 PM |
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Blown632Monte Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 09-07-2011 10:14 PM
quote: Well, 253HP in the later years, but I have to agree with this assessment. Flame away, but so much more could have been done to give the Prowler some balls in the HP department and make it much more of a performer to match the looks. |
ed monahan          POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 09-07-2011 10:29 PM
Why keep dwelling on what others think ? If you don't like the car sell it. If you do like the car, ignore them. They didn't make any payments on any of my cars and I don't plan on consulting them on my next purchase. Besides that, he thinks the Bengals aren't Super Bowl contenders. lol He must know something about football, at least. |
xtreme prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Halifax,Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 08:32 AM
I totally hate it when people disrespect my 6 cyl... they have never driven a Prowler but make unfair judgements.... Check out this site, while not gospel, these are a good indication of where the Prowler stands as far as the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times... print one off and give them to the ignorant people that complain the car is slow... if that doesn't work put them in the passenger seat and scare the crap out of them.... done this a few times and got some well deserved respect for " the little 6 auto "... This message has been edited by xtreme prowler on 09-08-2011 at 08:35 AM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-08-2011 09:24 AM
Anytime a person wants to trash talk a V-6,,,,ask them if they want to go up against a Nissan GT-R V6. Out of the box stock > 11.2 ...... 126
NINE second runs @ nearly 150+ mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX3XsJFt9ac&feature=player_embedded#! End of discussion......... This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 09-08-2011 at 09:25 AM |
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Blown632Monte Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 09-08-2011 09:42 AM
I'm not saying I don't like the car. I think it's a nice car and a good investment for the future. However, if there was one thing I could change about it, that would be the power output. In my opinion, it's not up to par with the looks and other technology the car has going for it. I do own one, I do drive one and I'll (obviously) be one of the first to agree that yes, absent of any serious modifications, Prowlers are relatively slow. I doubt I'll scare the crap out of anyone riding as a passenger. One would expect a lot more after looking at it. Let's be realistic: 253HP, 255TQ and a four-speed automatic. 0-60 in 5.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile time of 14.4. Not bad 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, but is that really "hot rod" fast? For what it's worth, a 2005 Chevy SSR does 0-60 in 5.5 and turns the quarter in 14.1 - and it's a truck. In my opinion, a car that will run the 1320 in 14.4 isn't blowing anybody's doors off and not something I would place in the "high performance" category. |
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xtreme prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Halifax,Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 12:00 PM
Slow compared to what ? up against all these 8 cyl its pretty good company we keep, these cars are considered Hi-performance... I will have to disagree with you Monte. here is my point:..........0-60, 1/4M 1999 Plymouth Prowler 5.8 14.4 1973 Dodge Charger SE 440ci 7.4 15.2 This message has been edited by xtreme prowler on 09-08-2011 at 12:04 PM |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-08-2011 12:22 PM
I've always said, stop light to stop light on the street,,,the Prowler holds its own against many. But who street races?
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JRL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Devon, Pa. USA |
posted 09-08-2011 12:35 PM
Basing this on a 97, I totally agree |
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xtreme prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Halifax,Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 12:55 PM
here is a bit of a surprise........0-60 1/4M 1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427ci 435hp 5.3 13.8 |
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xtreme prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Halifax,Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 01:03 PM
What do the 97 stock Prowlers run ? |
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Blown632Monte Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 09-08-2011 01:10 PM
quote: Xtreme, all of the cars you posted are pre-1990. Let us compare apples to apples as far as age and use as examples what are intended to be high performance cars in the same era: Baseline - 1999-2002 Plymouth/Chrysler Prowler 5.8 14.4 1998 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 SS 5.2 13.6 All sub-14 second cars from a variety of manufacturers in a similar year range and about half of them are not V8s. Some are higher dollar than others, but I think most of them are comparable in price to the Prowler. And by the way: 2004 Porsche Cayenne Turbo 5.4 13.8 (SUV) It might be a 2004, but I'd be mighty embarrassed to get beaten by an SUV in the Prowler - both in 0-60 and in the 1/4 mile. In my opinion, none of the cars look at mean or as cool as the Prowler. As such, one would expect it to be an ass-kicker. But, it's not. Given the available powerplants of the day (see above) Plymouth/Chrysler could have put far more effort into making the car perform as good as it looks. |
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xtreme prowler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Halifax,Nova Scotia, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 01:29 PM
I do see your point and can't argue that they could have done more in the HP area, but personally don't find the Prowler slow. I would expect to be beaten by all the cars you list, and certainly a 400hp Turbo SUV made by Porsche would be no shame.... but thats just me... I've handed a few 8cyl their azz in the Prowler and manage to go through a set of rear tires every summer... I've had it doing 212km/h (131 mph) and get there in a jiffy.... at the same time get decent fuel mileage and insurance is less for the V6... if it had more HP I probably would have never had the chance to buy one... I took a brand new 6L 6sp SSR out for a drive a couple years back, compared to the Prowler it was slow, my witness was the car salesman I took for a hot lap after the SSR... he was impressed with the Prowler... Just my opinions and observations over the past 7 years.. This message has been edited by xtreme prowler on 09-08-2011 at 01:30 PM |
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beachcat BANNED From:Ontario, Canada |
posted 09-08-2011 03:39 PM
It is what it is and it is a fantastic car. The drive train that chrysler put together suits many many prowler owners who are not into high performance anyway, including myself. The prowler does not need to apologise to anyone for it's performance or being the way it is.. It exceeds other levels reached by most other cars in so many ways. I initially posted the article because of its viper comments, basically calling it a dog because it isn't 1000 hp. The author is a bit cluless. Also many reading the article now, would not know that the comments are based on the 1997 hp and think this of prowlers in general. |
Griff Prowler Newbie From:Lakewood, Washington |
posted 09-08-2011 03:50 PM
The author of this article would have been a much better writer if he had studied journalism at Columbia... |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-08-2011 03:58 PM
The range-topping Cayenne Turbo model carries an MSRP of $104,800, plus $975 destination >>> 5.4,,,,,, 13.8 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8,, 6.4L 500 hp HEMI V8,,,priced at $54,470, plus ? destination >>> 4.8 ... quarter-mile times in the mid-13s reported.
THE WINNER >> RIGHT LANE >> 2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI tS Sedan 0-60 mph 4.8 Quarter Mile 13.2 ET
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Blown632Monte Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 09-08-2011 04:36 PM
quote: Wrong there, Larry. I would never drive one of those things. One of the guys I work with has one. I always make fun of him for driving a re-badged Kia. No Prowler included in your race? Why not? |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 09-08-2011 05:43 PM
My 97 held its own against a 99 in San Antonio losing by a nose. For best times I've seen on a 97, do a search for times by spoons. |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-08-2011 06:33 PM
Joe,,,,,,,,just having fun,,I had to put you in something. You mentioned the Porsche SUV > "And by the way: 2004 Porsche Cayenne Turbo 5.4 13.8 (SUV)" Next time,,,you'll be in the GT-R V6 Super car,,and I'll be in the Pontiac Aztec.... which gets spotted 15 car lengths headstart. Fair enough?
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InTheRed Prowler Junkie From:Charlotte, NC USA |
posted 09-08-2011 10:42 PM
... This message has been edited by InTheRed on 09-09-2011 at 08:16 AM |
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Blown632Monte Prowler Junkie From: |
posted 09-08-2011 11:19 PM
quote: Better idea: I'll jump in the Monte and spot you 45 car lengths. You going to be anywhere near Flagstaff this weekend? We'll be there for that big show they have. |
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ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 09-09-2011 07:14 AM
quote: The Full Monte,,, Elevation wise,,,yes. Distance wise,,,no. Some local Arizona Prowlers will be on our annual Devil's Highway run this weekend, going to Springerville on saturday, and on sunday dropping from 10,000 feet of elevation back down to the desert floor. Still, about the same distance from Flagstaff:
Bring your raincoats and Monte car cover,,,,,possible rain this weekend up north? Have a good time in Flagg,,,spend some of that Cally money here!! |
TFischer POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas, USA |
posted 09-09-2011 08:51 AM
I've never felt the Prowler was slow. Love the response in the peddle and off of the line. At Laddies' last Corvette/Prowler shoot out in Louisiana I took out two Vipers and every Corvette but one and was in the finals. I unfortunately redlighted so won't ever know if I could have beaten that Vette or not, but he had 800 hp. I realize it was bracket racing, but I certainly didn't feel like I had a slow car that day.  T |
padroo POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Chesterton, IN, USA |
posted 09-09-2011 08:34 PM
How about the Buick Gran National. They had a Turbocharged V-6 in them and everyone raved about them. If you look at their HP numbers and their weight it makes youwonder if they could have been all that fast compared to the Prowler. http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1985-1987-buick-grand-national-gnx.htm Engine for the 1985-1987 Buick Regal Grand National & GNX: Type Size To be fair to Buick they were older than the Prowler and the eighties didn't have much to offer in the way of performance in most cases. Fast forward to today and compare the Prowler motor to the new Mustang and Camaro V-6's. They put out V-8 HP if you compare them to the the Prowler HP of the late 90's. |
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