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frank7778
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posted 07-04-2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frank7778     send a private message to frank7778   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by frank7778
This is my first post on these boards, but like all here I have allways wanted a Prowler. I have been involved in building advanced electric cars since retiring, and am looking for a prowler with a blown engine, tranny, etc. to use as a starting point for a new build. Somehow it just seems 'right' to breathe a new high tech life into such a great body style.

1). Anybody know of an available car for a REASONABLE price?

2). Has anyone built an electric Prowler yet?

Thanks for your help.

Frank

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posted 07-04-2010 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin A     send a private message to Kevin A   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kevin A
Frank,
I think this would be a great idea. I have never heard of an electric Prowler so I hope you build the first.
A Prowler with a decent body will likely be at least $20K but maybe a high-miler (>>100K miles) could be less. A salvage title car would likely be the best candidate due to the nature of the project and those should be in the teens.
Good luck with the project and keep up posted on your progress!
Kevin
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Sounds like a great idea, then we could all have the prowler we love, without all the prowler problems I read about from fuel pumps and on. However I must say my car has never had any problems yet except for a window regulator, anyone have any wood I can knock on!
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posted 07-04-2010 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steve Conley     send a private message to Steve Conley   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Steve Conley
Frank, what type of electric cars have you built?? What type of batteries, motor, transmission, controller, charger, DC-DC converter, and gauge did you use?? For my electric car I used a 98 Chevy S-10 with 200ah Lithium Ion batteries a 9" ADC motor with 5 speed trans. Raptor 1200 controller and a Chetta charger. And barley had room in a truck, of course I can hall plywood. But all of this would never fit into my Prowler. Maybe if I used the trailer??Let me know. Thank You. Steve
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posted 07-04-2010 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
every car has problems.you could love a silent prowler,go buy a prius please.

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Where would the batteries be installed in a Prowler?

Enough room?

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where else the pass seat,or the trunk.

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frank7778
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posted 07-05-2010 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frank7778     send a private message to frank7778   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by frank7778
Thanks to all for your comments. As to some of the questions:

You can check out our latest project on our website: www.fvtxprize.com
This is a custom build from the ground up for the Automotive Xprize competition. We have done quite well, but that't a different story. The car is a series hybrid with two custom built brushless dc motors (each generating ~ 200hp ) one for each of the front two wheels. We also built the battery packs to be distributed in several places for optimum weight distribution. In this configuration we get over 130 mile range on batteries alone before we engage our engine/generator. To much detail for a forum thread, but you get the idea..... We've learned a ton from the exercise (which was one of the main goals).

In any event, if someone hears of a potential chasis, please send a pm.

Thanks again,

Frank

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Frank,
Great web site. I love the quote:

".... those that say it can't be done

need to get out of the way of those that are DOING IT.... "

Good Luck to you and your team!!
Brian

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Frank 7778: Interesting post Frank! Here is a idea for you... Pick up a Prowler at a good price $22,000 to $25,000 as they are out there and the parts that you remove can be sold helping to pay for the car... Some guys like me are starting to collect and sell Prowler Parts to help out other Prowler owners that are in the need, for keeping there car up and running... Just check out the Classified Section and post the parts you pull and don't need... Help Others while Helping Yourself! Just a thought... John(onecatnodog)Collins
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Frank
the best of luck to you on your project.

Pantera
Not to repeat myself but How many times has someone on this site said it can't be done won't happen, only to have it done by some innovative persons

I agree with the quote

"To those that say it can't be done

need to get out of the way of those that are DOING IT.... "

toys

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Speaking of projects... Willie, did you manage to get those pictures for me yet?
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Hi Frank,
Did the electric Prowler project ever get done? I have an interest in an alternative fuel Prowler and I am curious if you (or anyone else) ever built one.

P.S. Nice website. I hope your projects are going well.

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With LIFEPO4 Batteries not Lithium Ion and the engine and transmission removed there is more than plenty of room !!!
The Car would probably kick the Tesla's A$$. GO FOR IT!

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adacus

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Hello Frank,

This might be the perfect car for what your trying to work on.
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/008580.html

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Some people don't appreciate the development of the electric car. I own a Toyota Prius now and hope my next car will be all electric. Ford has a Focus coming out that is all electric. When you remove the engine, transmission, transaxle, fuel tank and associated items from a car you will find a lot of room for batteries. Battery technology is advancing at a rapid rate because people are starting to see a way to jump in early and make a lot of money on a good battery design. Future electric cars can be all wheel drive with a motor at each wheel instead of the arrangement we use in cars now and will need little or no transmission. Electric cars have not been made in quantity for 100 years, give electric some time and you will wonder why it ever took so long. Do you think the oil companies had something to do with it, na!

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Maybe hydrogen/electric would work, but until they get the electrical grid in this country up, can you imagine the brown-outs this country would have when everyone got home from work and plugged in thier cars. Look what happens now during a heat wave in the eastern U.S. Major brown-outs when the A/C's turn on. Throw in a few million electic cars and hold on.
Speaking of cheap, inexpensive, and available fuel, how about neuclear/electric power cars. When you get home, plug your car into your house, power it and re-supply the power grid, plus lower your electrical bill. Hydrogen/electrical will do the same thing as they are already doing this in Sweden on a small scale. They would run on a pea size piece of uranium for 20+ rears, and would be just as safe as any other type of fuel. If they can build power plants that can survive a neuclear explosion, they can build a small one that can survive a car crash!!

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