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Ed W.

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posted 05-31-2010 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed W.     send a private message to Ed W.   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Ed W.
Our '97 will get a new set of tires this year. At 30K, I guess that's typical for the rears anyway. I'm giving serious thought to BF Goodrich Force G's all the way around. Good bye run flats (I don't feel like adding my name to the waiting list). My question is "Do I replace the low pressure sensors or eliminate them altogether?"

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I kept the tire sensors on mine. Especially without the run flats it is an extra layer of insurance to know a tire is getting low. I can not see any reson to remove them but others may have a different opinion.
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posted 05-31-2010 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed W.     send a private message to Ed W.   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Ed W.
What about replacing the batteries, or are they non serviceable?
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I am almost positive that the batteries are non replaceable on the stock sensors.

Regarding tire availability, I went to the local Goodyear tire store where I was told the Goodyear EMT tire was no longer available. I started looking for other options.

I walked into a small local tire shop and inquired about tires. I was able to get through them a set of Goodyear EMT tires within a week. I checked the dates on the tires before they were installed and they were made about 18 months ago. I am now a happy camper.

The closest option I found was that Bridgestone makes a run flat 225/45/17 for the front but the closest they have to offer for the rear is a 305/35/20.

Smaller overall diameter by less than an inch but is also a bit wider and might rub when the suspension is fully extended or compressed from what I have heard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ed W.:
Our '97 will get a new set of tires this year. At 30K, I guess that's typical for the rears anyway. I'm giving serious thought to BF Goodrich Force G's all the way around. Good bye run flats (I don't feel like adding my name to the waiting list). My question is "Do I replace the low pressure sensors or eliminate them altogether?"

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I replaced my GY Run-Flats with the BF Goodrich G's and I like the ride much better. I did not change out the tire sensors and I run 29# on the front and 30# on the back with no issues.

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goodyear has been making the emt for awhile now and they are available.batteries are not available/replaceable.you can change to newer sensors,you will also have to change the module.do a search tire sensors.there was a post just a few weeks ago about them.

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I'm confused are the goodyear emt the tires or the sensors? I think by these posts its the tires. So are the tires available new or not?
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posted 05-31-2010 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
EMT is the tire. They are supposedly available.
I switched to non-runflats and kept the sensors.
You cannot replace the batteries in the runflats.
It is cheaper to replace all the sensors with a different
type than it is to replace them with the exact same thing, (which probably has very old batteries in it).
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Hi I replaced my tire sensors last week with the Orange Electric Tire Pressure Monitoring System .. Because I was getting a low tire light and a bell on my Prowler .. The new System that I installed gives the Pressure of each Tire and the temp of each tire .. with a nice digital color read out for each tire Green for safe and red when tire is low .. very happy with it.. Jim
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Originally posted by jimsutton:
Hi I replaced my tire sensors last week with the Orange Electric Tire Pressure Monitoring System .. Because I was getting a low tire light and a bell on my Prowler .. The new System that I installed gives the Pressure of each Tire and the temp of each tire .. with a nice digital color read out for each tire Green for safe and red when tire is low .. very happy with it.. Jim

How about an address/phone #/etc.

Ed W.

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quote:
Originally posted by ed monahan:
EMT is the tire. They are supposedly available.
I switched to non-runflats and kept the sensors.
You cannot replace the batteries in the runflats.
It is cheaper to replace all the sensors with a different
type than it is to replace them with the exact same thing, (which probably has very old batteries in it).

Ed, my question would then be "Would the non-OEM sensors interface with the Prowler reciever/warning light?"

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your last question,no.
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posted 06-01-2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Ed, I don't know, I haven't switched mine out. I know some of the others have and hopefully they will respond.
I was attempting to answer HScott's question.
I didn't do a search but I think Spoons reported on that in the past.
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posted 06-01-2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Read this thread.
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003992.html
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Ok Here is some pics. of the Orange Eletric TPMS . It comes with every thing you need to monitor the Pressure and the temp. on each tire ..around $200.00
Ed W.

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I got the BIG shock this afternoon when (out of cureosity) I called a local MoPar dealer just to see if the OEM sensors were available. Yes they are but at about $225 ea! I would end up spending more for OEM sensors than I will for non EMT tires! I find that inexcuseable & unacceptable! I am seriously looking at the Orange unit as mentioned by others.
FWIW: I am looking at following Michael T's lead with BF Goodrich G force tires for a softer ride and better "water bleeding" on wet pavement, two things lacking on the Goodyear run flats.
Ed W.

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My last question is "What will I have to deal with relative to the remaining OEM system?" Will the dash indicator light remain on? If so, is that something that I can circumvent?
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pull the dash and unplug the old one..anout 45 min. time
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or put a piece of black tape over lite which is pretty much invisible.fyi-2002 mopar sensors and module are way way cheaper than the original ones it came with.

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I went with Orange sometime back after fighting the stock sensors for years. I hard wired it in. On a scale of 1 to 10, I give Orange a 11.
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I took spoons advice to change out the 2000 sensors for 2002 sensors. $35 a piece from TPMS whoelsalers(not bad). Now I'm trying to source the TPMS module in the dash. Anyone have a source? Any idea how long to remove the dash? Thanks, Rick
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remove the dash takes 3 min. Pull strait back easy to do..
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Originally posted by RickH:
I took spoons advice to change out the 2000 sensors for 2002 sensors. $35 a piece from TPMS whoelsalers(not bad). Now I'm trying to source the TPMS module in the dash. Anyone have a source? Any idea how long to remove the dash? Thanks, Rick

So you're telling me if I use the 2002 sensors, I should get a 2002 module for my 97 (because the 02's will NOT interface with the 97 module)?

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the "low tire" warning light just illuminated today on my 2001 orange. No bells, just the light. checked all four tires. all close to specs except for the left rear that i just had repaired to remove a screw. that tire was at 44lbs. idiots at the tire store a couple of weeks ago didn't lower it before it was put back on car. would the light go on if the tire has too much pressure? none of my tech books discuss sensors reacting to too much pressure.
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To recalibrate them, overinflate the tires and then reduce them to the correct pressure. This was the recommendation about 8 years ago. I never had the problem so I don't know if it works, but others said it did.

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