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Kevin A


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posted 12-15-2009 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin A     send a private message to Kevin A   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Kevin A
My Allstate agent was looking into Hagerty for me as an option to lower my costs. Right now I pay ~$350/6 months with good coverage and no limits on use with Allstate.

The Hagerty quote shocked me and my agent. For $30,000 stated value the annual premium is $807 with $0 deductible and $1044 for $40K stated value. Does this seem right for a person with a clean record?

Bodily Injury $250,000/$500,000
Property $100,00
Medical $5,000
Uninsured/underinsured motorist $250,000/$500,000
Spare parts $750 limit (????)


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posted 12-15-2009 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alrtg     send a private message to alrtg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by alrtg
I got a quote from Grundy a while back. 30K stated value occasional use 500K limits for about $500.00 a year.

As I recall they did not ask for what I would think were relevant details like driving record, claims history or anything else. Made me kind of wary.

I have the Maximum allowable limits for auto insurance in my state with very low deductibles for comparable rates.

The big thing I worry about is the Insurance company may want to low ball the car's value in the event of a claim and total it.

I have gotten the Idea here on POA that this is a problem with regular Insurance companies. I am concerned about it which is why I have started looking for a better alternative.

It will be interesting to see what others have to say.

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Considering average retail value is at $23,000.00 according to NADA an agreed apon value is a safe bet. We all know that what is a fender bender to most cars is totaled on a Prowler. The last thing you want is to get a fraction of what you have into it back in the case of an accident. Mine is insured for $45,000 with Hagerty and is somewhere around $1100.00. If it gets totaled I will only be upset until the check comes in the mail.
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I had an agreed value on my 97 for $150K with Hagarty. Premiums were $2000 a year. Too steep for me. I got a better deal thru Grundy but premiums were still pretty steep. I don't think driving record or age comes into concern. I think they have a flat rate. Something like $1.40 per 100 value. Things YOU want to look into are any mileage or use limitations. I think use limitations on the above was like, 3000 or 5000 miles per year, events or parades (no grocery shopping, etc). From what I've heard, claims with either Hagarty or Grundy were smoothly handled.
One of our members got a better rate going thru his insurance agent to Grundy, instead of going to Grundy directly himself.
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Be sure to re-read your policies for exact wording:


You advertise that you offer "Agreed Value" coverage. What is that?

"Grundy offers Agreed Value insurance, where you, the customer, and we, Grundy Worldwide, agree on the value of your collector car. In case of a total loss, you will receive that amount. We understand that collector vehicles do not depreciate in value, over time. In fact, the values of these cars increase! And, that's why we offer Inflation Guard, as well-to protect your car at the value that it's actually worth. Over 60 years ago, James Grundy, Sr. invented the idea of 'Agreed Value' insurance, and it's worked ever since. A lot of other companies have picked up on this idea, but nothing compares the original."


*** Does that differ from "Stated Value" or "State Amount" insurance? ***


"Absolutely," "There is a huge difference between our Agreed Value policy and a Stated Value policy. Some people (including insurance agents) mistake Stated Value for Agreed Value. And, that's a big mistake. If you buy a Stated Value policy and experience a total loss or have your car stolen, you may learn the hard way that your car isn't covered properly. Stated Amount forms say that the insurance company will pay the lesser of: a) The Stated Amount, b) the cost to repair the vehicle that doesn't exceed the Stated Amount or c) the "Actual Cash Value." And, with that third statement, a claims adjuster is allowed to settle your claim for LESS than the Stated Amount! And, this is why all collector car owners need a Grundy Agreed Value policy. If your car is stolen or totaled, you will receive a check for the amount that we agreed your collector vehicle was worth."


>> Hagerty also states: Agreed value coverage

This message has been edited by ALLEY CAT on 12-16-2009 at 08:04 AM

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on my 61 plymouth with hagerty it is agreed value. on the cat with grundy it is also agreed value at 44000 and trailer for 7500 for 660 per year with no ded. i had a claim from the tulsa trip and they were great to work with. all done in 1 week.
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I switched from Grundy to Barrett-Jackson Collector Car Insurance with a stated value of $40k and the annual premium is $303.00.
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kevin
not sure how it is with an individual car policy, but i had 6 of my collectibles with hagerty. with a clean record and no claims, i noticed my premium went up from 06-07 by hundreds.
i contacted grundy, gave them the 6 vehicles and my rate was over a 1000 per year less than hagerty.
grundy now has 11 of my cars and i'm very pleased with the rates

jmo

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When I compared Hagerty to Gundy on the Viper coupe, Hagerty was $1050 per year compared to Gundy at $710 per year. I stayed with State Farm @ $660 per year, but did raise my deduct. to $1500. I've been with St. Farm for 47 years, which has all the cars, boat, house, life, and my soul insuranced. No complaints...
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AC, I also have State Farm for everything. Since this post, I contacted my agent & he said they don't have a stated value, but will pay what the average car (prowler) is worth. Since I (we) have a lot of extras on our cars, is this what we really want? I'd like to get what I put into the car if it is totaled, (heaven forbid). I just hope I'm not in it. What does your agent tell you. I used to have Hagerty, but switched, because of the cost. Now I'm not sure if I did the right thing.
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skip haggerty,go w/grundy,way less money than haggerty and better coverage.

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I have everything with state farm for the last 23 years and was told that they would only pay what the current value was on the prowler if anything happened. I switched the prowler to the Barrett Jackson Collector insurance which just uses their name and really is the Delp Company which has been around for along time. I get me stated value plus my same coverage that I had with SF for around 310.
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ask state farm if the cat burned today and totaled what is the amount that you will get. do you want to settle for that amount is the key question.
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Grundy quoted me $252 for the year with $34k replacement.
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Mac,,,State Farm does have a 'stated value' type of insurance,,,,,,but the vehicle 'must be' 15 years old or older.

Gundy looks like the best way to go,,,if you are going to switch. jmo

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if your car was a total,not stated value,they take 10 to 20 prowlers and average it out,so you would be getting a lot less.when you figure the stated value,dont forget to add the value of the mods to the total.

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posted 12-17-2009 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
Jan,

I called 6 collector car insurance companies and Grundy had the best rate. I do however have one concern with collector car insurance; that is they only want to use the car for pleasure drives and car shows. All of the insurance companies I called said they do not cover the vehicle if it is used to run errands or parked in a parking lot of a store or restaurant.

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Originally posted by spoons:
Jan,

I called 6 collector car insurance companies and Grundy had the best rate. I do however have one concern with collector car insurance; that is they only want to use the car for pleasure drives and car shows. All of the insurance companies I called said they do not cover the vehicle if it is used to run errands or parked in a parking lot of a store or restaurant.



My concern also, agreed valve means nothing if they won't pay due to Wrong place at wrong time.

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Yes, that's what worried me when I first bought the Kat. Hagery and/or Grundy painted a grim picture of when and where I could use my car if insured by them. I want my kids to be able to drive it, and I think either of them would frown on that.
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Try asking about being on an event out to lunch parked at a restaurant. No, you can't expect them to pay off if you are out running errands in it, or parked at Wal-mart Christmas shopping, or taking the wife out to dinner in it. But if you take it to the Deadwood event and are out with the group eating lunch at a restaurant, and something happens to it then, you should be covered, as it is part of the event you are attending. Just ask, and give them an example of what you are wondering about being covered or not. Bonafied events, parades, car shows, and the like should be covered.
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Thats why I don't have them, I do take it out to dinner, to a friends house and occassional will run a errand. I don't want to have to worry about if I'm covered. My luck it would be the one time I stop at a store and get hit in the parking lot.
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Here's a twist to ponder....if your car is a total loss and you get current market or average value....then (minus the loss of the mods)...with so many Prowlers for sale (just on this site alone) why would you not be able to replace it for about the amount you get from the payoff?

Yes if you have invested thousands in actual costs for modifications (and I would assume you better have actual receipts if you have to file a claim)then it makes sense, but if you have a fairly stock Prowler, you probably can come out ok. Insurance is one of those necessary evils in life, and it is how much you want to gamble in the end.

btw...I have mine insured on a group Metropolitan Life plan thru my wife's work for market value. Call me crazy...but I want to drive my car to Walmart and to work, and actually attend very few cars shows due to personal commitments and work, so the type of policy that restricts my driving privleges does me no good, no matter how much value they will let me insure it for! JMO

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my stated value w mods is 42.000,and thats what i will get if totalled.they wont ask you for receipts for the mods,cause they can see them.if nothing else you will need photos of your car.

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Originally posted by garysss:
Thats why I don't have them, I do take it out to dinner, to a friends house and occassional will run a errand. I don't want to have to worry about if I'm covered. My luck it would be the one time I stop at a store and get hit in the parking lot.

Hey you, if you get hit the other guy pays.

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posted 12-17-2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
in az we have lots of people w/o any ins.

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