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RADCAT RICH


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posted 12-16-2008 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RADCAT RICH     send a private message to RADCAT RICH   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by RADCAT RICH
Is it my imagination, or reality ?
why do most of the buyers EXPECT to buy preowned Prowlers, Spare Parts, used Add-on equipment to bid so LOW , and EXPECT such a bargain on said parts.These items are not from HOMEBOY SHOPPING CLUB, or from the back of someones truck. Just you wait and see down the road what you WILL have to pay for some of these items
Not to post someones poa name , but 1 individual pm'd me with an INSULT, i would NOT even consider it an offer!
Hard Top offer was $ 1500. maybe this is why our cars also dont resell for what they should JMO

This message has been edited by RADCAT RICH on 12-16-2008 at 08:47 AM

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ok Rich, since you fronted me out, I will up my offer to two dollars!

Seriously though, prices on all collector cars are tanking right now, but that doesn't mean that we should be looking to take advantage of each other.

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posted 12-16-2008 09:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nitrosteve     send a private message to nitrosteve   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by nitrosteve
These things happen in a slumping economy. People belive someone is in financial straights and make offers that may not be up to the sellers expectations. The item is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay, an offer you may refuse may be snapped up in a second by another seller. I believe the same works in reverse, we have several people on this site that buy up certain items, (in their mind cornering the market) then resell them at ridiculous prices, many times at 2 and 3 times what they should be priced at. Again it is a buyers market with the economy in the condition it is. Don't buy from sellers who are obviously buying low and selling high, let them sit on their items for a while and the price will come down, if it doesn't then look at the money you saved. Sometimes the best deal is the one you never make. No one should be upset at someone making an offer, you requested that they do so, respectfully decline and leave it at that. They obviously offered what they thought was a fair price or maybe what they can afford. They shouldn't be condemned publicly for their offer. If someone was in fact desperate for money they would welcome any offer that might save their house or feed their family. I don't know about others here but I think that HOMEBOY SHOPPING CLUB remark you made is offensive, uncalled for, disrespectful, rude, and should be removed from this site!

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posted 12-16-2008 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MDProwler     send a private message to MDProwler   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by MDProwler
I believe if you are truly insulted by a low offer for a man made object you are way too attached to it.
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posted 12-16-2008 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DFOTOPRO     send a private message to DFOTOPRO   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DFOTOPRO
when something is offered for sale it is up to the person Selling to set a price. if they choose they may also state "OBO" in which case you should not be insulted by any offer .to low don't sell or come back with a counter offer

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Bank stocks down 80%
Stock market in general down 50%
Housing prices down 10-40%

Collector cars (and parts) are generally a very discretionary purchase and one should suspect that the prices of collector cars will be more volatile than other assets. It would not at all surprise me to see average collector cars drop 50-75% in this environment.

Obviously with a collection myself, this isn't something I want to see, but it is likely and I have always run my collection with this in mind.

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posted 12-16-2008 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for catfish     send a private message to catfish   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by catfish
i offered 1.50,he said he would think about it.to add to it most people have no idea what a part costs either..

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Rocky Vander

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I just picked up a 1997 purple prowler for $21,000.00 with just 16,000 miles on it. The guy needed money and he was desperate. I'll bet i could sell this prowler for 30 K or more and it is spotless.
RADCAT RICH


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posted 12-16-2008 03:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RADCAT RICH     send a private message to RADCAT RICH   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by RADCAT RICH
quote:
Originally posted by Rocky Vander:
I just picked up a 1997 purple prowler for $21,000.00 with just 16,000 miles on it. The guy needed money and he was desperate. I'll bet i could sell this prowler for 30 K or more and it is spotless.

Congradulations Rocky

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I agree with the previous responses in that you should not be insulted if someone makes an offer, after all they are offering base on what they can afford or feel what is worth to them. You can always decline.
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quote:
Originally posted by Rocky Vander:
I just picked up a 1997 purple prowler for $21,000.00 with just 16,000 miles on it. The guy needed money and he was desperate. I'll bet i could sell this prowler for 30 K or more and it is spotless.

Not according to the dealers I spoke with today. They said a 97 with under 6K miles was only worth 10K-12K MAX. He said that there was a black 99 at an Enterprise just down the road a couple months back. Since they take incredible care of their rentals via regular maintenance, they get alot of their cars from Enterprise. They wanted $15K for it. He wouldn't buy it. Appearantly it sold cause it ain't there no mo. Some poor sap sure got ripped off.
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posted 12-17-2008 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EssexExport     send a private message to EssexExport   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by EssexExport
Yes, blame it on the current economy
& Bush!
Rocky Vander

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posted 12-17-2008 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocky Vander     send a private message to Rocky Vander   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Rocky Vander
Most dealers don't know what they are talking about,I'd love to see a 97 with 6k miles for 10k this will never happen.
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posted 12-17-2008 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
quote:
Originally posted by idive:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rocky Vander:
[B]I just picked up a 1997 purple prowler for $21,000.00 with just 16,000 miles on it. The guy needed money and he was desperate. I'll bet i could sell this prowler for 30 K or more and it is spotless.


Not according to the dealers I spoke with today. They said a 97 with under 6K miles was only worth 10K-12K MAX. He said that there was a black 99 at an Enterprise just down the road a couple months back. Since they take incredible care of their rentals via regular maintenance, they get alot of their cars from Enterprise. They wanted $15K for it. He wouldn't buy it. Apparently it sold cause it ain't there no mo. Some poor sap sure got ripped off.[/B][/QUOTE]

I would not believe anything a dealer tells me right now. I recently took our very low mileage 2005 Dream Cruiser convert to Car Max to see what they would give us for it. They offered 4K less than what the Kelly Blue Book quoted as AVERAGE trade-in for GT Convert. Dream Cruisers are much better equipped than a GT and offer limited production options either not available or optional on the GT. I have to wonder if times are so bad for car sales why are they still asking way above MSRP for a new Challenger. My guess is because if someone has the means and wants it bad enough they will pay that price. Wouldn't the same hold true for a limited production vehicle like the Prowler.

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Car Max just offered me 8,000.00 for an 06 300C with every option you could get from the factory, plus a billett grille and custom tail fin, one owner...and they were really upset when I left laughing..
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...many people make unrealistic offers, and end up purchasing said items.....

...I always price my items for sale with an "OBO"....that way, there is a starting point to work from

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I forgot to mention another humorous item he mentioned... he said the Prowler doesn't hold its value. Didn't matter what I told him to the contrary.
Rocky Vander

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posted 12-17-2008 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rocky Vander     send a private message to Rocky Vander   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Rocky Vander
I took my mom's mercury grand marquis to car max they offered to buy it for $5200.00 & i sold it to a private party for $8,0000.00 so there you have it.
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posted 12-18-2008 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
quote:
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I took my mom's mercury grand marquis to car max,,,,,,,,

There's a Car Max dealership in Deer Lodge, Montana?,,,population 3,500 cold souls. Who knew?

DR PROWLER



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I was thinking about trading in my 2004 H2...until I found out the value...aaah no thanks!
I'll be keeping it for a while!
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Originally posted by tangled up in BLUE:
...many people make unrealistic offers, and end up purchasing said items.....



That's exactly how I bought my Kat (580 miles oon it when I bought it). I made a ridiculous low offer and the seller counter offered by $500 more.SOLD!

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posted 12-18-2008 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alrtg     send a private message to alrtg   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by alrtg
The economy is why I bought my Prowler.
I bought it from a friend to help him out.
Hopefully his situation will improve during the next year or two and he will be in a position to buy it back at a pre-determined price in two years. If not I will have the option to keep it or sell it at that time.

If I haven't fallen in love with this particular Prowler (fat chance)and choose to sell it, I will undoubtedly look for another or maybe talk my dad out of his Black Tie.

Right now I am happy to help out a friend but in two years I may not be so happy to give up the car but that's life.

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posted 12-21-2008 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JRL     send a private message to JRL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by JRL
A 99 with 7000 miles just wholesaled for about $25K.
A 2000 with about the same miles (6-7K) just sold for 27K.
Take that for what it's worth
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posted 12-21-2008 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ALLEY CAT     send a private message to ALLEY CAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ALLEY CAT
It's worth,,,,,,what it will bring in CASH,,,,TODAY


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I guess you could say that mine is "priceless"......Cause I wouldn't take anything for it...

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