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posted 11-17-2008 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prowler X     send a private message to Prowler X   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Prowler X
Just wondering if anyone else saw this interesting report on outdated tires. I guess the questions is how old are your tires? Anyone running with the originals? Any age-related failures?
http://abcnews.go.Com/Video/playerIndex?id=4826897

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These posts might help.
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003329.html
http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/003392.html

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posted 11-17-2008 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
My 99 Prowler still has the original tires, build date on the car 6/98. As far as what I can see there is no problems. I have another set of tires but they are take off's so they are old too even though they only have 3,500 miles. What to do? I don't know, when the time comes to change them I will have to decide to install low mile old tires, or buy new.

The 81 Imperial still has the original tires and car was purchased Oct 1980. I bought another Imperial to get a set of wheels like is on the car so I could put new tires on for driving and keep the originals on for show only.

The 74 Cadillac Coupe de Ville, not sure if they are original or not, but the car has only 29,000 miles and they have been on it as long as I can remember.

Charlie bought the car when it was 1 year old and my dad was with him when he bought it. He thought it had either 14,000 or 18,000 miles in 1974 when Richard 1st owner traded it in. This car has really been in the same family since new. Charlie was a fan of Michelin tires and that is what is on it. I would guess shortly after he got it he changed the tires, but even if not and it was later when it was changed they are over 18 years old. I think there is a belt out of one of the front tires. I do plan on getting new tires for it at some point.

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My 99 Prowler still has the original tires, build date on the car 6/98. As far as what I can see there is no problems. I have another set of tires but they are take off's so they are old too even though they only have 3,500 miles. What to do? I don't know, when the time comes to change them I will have to decide to install low mile old tires, or buy new.

The 81 Imperial still has the original tires and car was purchased Oct 1980. I bought another Imperial to get a set of wheels like is on the car so I could put new tires on for driving and keep the originals on for show only.

The 74 Cadillac Coupe de Ville, not sure if they are original or not, but the car has only 29,000 miles and they have been on it as long as I can remember.

Charlie bought the car when it was 1 year old and my dad was with him when he bought it. He thought it had either 14,000 or 18,000 miles in 1974 when Richard 1st owner traded it in. This car has really been in the same family since new. Charlie was a fan of Michelin tires and that is what is on it. I would guess shortly after he got it he changed the tires, but even if not and it was later when it was changed they are over 18 years old. I think there is a belt out of one of the front tires. I do plan on getting new tires for it at some point.


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In 1985 I built a 1952 MGTD kit car on a Volkswagen chasis and installed Michelin tires on the car. I have only put 7500 miles on the car and the tires look as good as new.
After the discussion on tire age started I even looked at the tires with a magnifying glass looking for hairline cracks. There is nothing visible that would indicate aging. The tires have always been on the ground as I never blocked the car up. When I started driving in the 50's tires only lasted for 10,00 miles. Recapping was common. You always checked the tire for cracking before investing in the retread. You could easily spot an old tire.
My Kat is a 99. I replaced the rear tires when I bought the car last year. They are the Goodyear runflats and I don't have any idea of their shelf life before I bought them from Tire Rack.
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I don't know what to believe. Our 2004 Durango has the the original tires and just turned 50K miles and the tires don't need to be replaced yet according to the tread wear alone. We have owned the car for 4 years 7 months so I am guessing the tires are at least 5 years old possibly older. Our 99 Prowler has the original fronts at 37K plus and like Larry I don't see any problems. They are at least 10 years old. I too have some old low mile takeoffs to replace the fronts with. I purchase new rears last year but they were date coded at least 4 years old when I got them. Your average Prowler probably is not a daily driver and I'll bet most cats have fairly low miles tires on them. The newest production Prowlers are at over 6 years old and will be at least 7 years old in Feb 2009. I have never heard anyone report a Prowler tire failure unless they hit a pot hole or something.
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Sorry but this news story is typical media sensationalism which fuels the public and causes hysteria. At one point when the story talked about Ford supporting a tire life of 6 years, I thought..well sure..they had their share of lawsuits over Explorer tire failures. Why not try to find another reason for this.

Sensationalism like this nearly put Audi out of business with it's story on 60 Minutes of unintended acceleration in the 80's. The media always likes to parade a death in front of the public to make it's point, and they nearly put Audi out of business, when it was later proven there was no fact to the car causing this problem.

As with everything, aging does pose potential limitations,reduced performance expectations and possible failures...otherwise there would be no market for Viagra

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Well my new runflats got here today. Build date of 43rd week of 08. Don't really need them as my orig. tires have 25000 miles and look fine. I just decided that I would buy them while they were available. Anyone know the best way to store them for a few years ?

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posted 11-17-2008 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
supposedly inside a dark plastic bag so the sun and air don't deteriorate them.
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supposedly inside a dark plastic bag so the sun and air don't deteriorate them.

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Sounds ok and makes sense but where in the @#$$#@$ can I find a bag that will hold the rear ones.

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Use a couple of large leaf bags and just cut them at the seams and themn tape them. Use a clear one to seal it, then just use anything to block the light.
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Sounds ok and makes sense but where in the @#$$#@$ can I find a bag that will hold the rear ones.

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Ask Discount tire for a few tire bags. I have my trailer spare in one. They are white, but fairly thick. Like Ed said, then store where the light is blocked as much as possible. And whatever you do, keep Ed away from them. The glare will deteriorate them in minutes.
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I still have the original tires on my 97 and they look like new ( only 4000 miles ). I have no plans to replace them anytime in the future. I also still have what appears to be the original battery in mine. Looking at the battery post, there is some red spray paint on the post and the cable that looks like it came from the factory like that.
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i took the cat to my tire guy and he said that they were in good shape. my cat is a 02 with about 26000 on it. hope i don't find out the hard way that he was wrong.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by idive:
[B] [QUOTE]Originally posted by tom112:
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Sounds ok and makes sense but where in the @#$$#@$ can I find a bag that will hold the rear ones.
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OK, answering my own question, I found 45 gallon extra heavy duty bags at Wally World that will contain the rear tires. I probably went to the extreme but I even used a vaccum to reduce the amount of air in the bags before I sealed them.
Thanks for all of the suggestions. Man, don't know what I would have done without this site.
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My 99' (with 14k miles) still has the original GY run flats. They look fine, but are dated in 1998, so they are 10 years old. I am ***guessing*** that Z-rated tires may have a slightly longer life span given the added design -- with the run flat feature might add on a few years. If I do replace them, I might just do a few NASCAR-style burn outs with the old ones for $%^&* and giggles.

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My 2001 built in December of 2000 still has the original Tires.

My 67 Firebird 400 has a set of Re-pop f-70 14'' Red wall tires purchased in 1988 and installed on the car in 1990. They look perfect....

That being said, I was at the Tri-Power Nationals with the Bird two years ago and there was a 68 Red Firebird next to me with the right rear Quarter Panel all beat up with black marks all over it. When I asked what happened, he pointed to the different tire on the back end and said one of his 12 year old B.F. Goodrich Radial TA's came apart on the highway and beat the heck out of the quarter panel.... I keep thinking I need to replace those red lines. That was a steel belted radial so I do not know if that would make a difference....

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Well I had a steel belted radial blow out on my motor home and it destroyed the right rear of the home to the tune of several thousand dollars. Don't want to try that again

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I just recently replaced my original run flats. I had 40k miles on them and saw no sign of dry rot (from the outside). The car is garage kept, where the garage is under the house, so it doesn't get to hot or cold. I have seen dry rotted on a pickup I had to keep outside. On the Kat, even thou they still had a good bit of tread left, they where showing an odd ware pattern due to car needed alignment. When the tire shop replace them (I went to the non-run flat Dunlops), he said they were badly dry rotted on the inside and falling apart, and asked me if I wanted to see them. I was in a hurry, so I didn't look, and really didn't need to, as I was replacing them.
I'm glad this subject came up, because I hate to see other owners selling their original tires to another member.

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Well, you guys need to stop doing brakestands..LOL Considering I only have 4000 Miles on my 02 Prowler the tires look practically new. They still have the nipples on the sides of the tires. I'll see what I get out of them or if any problems come up down the road.

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