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junior420
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posted 01-31-2006 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junior420     send a private message to junior420   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by junior420
hey..now everyone who knows me knows that i am a huge prowler fan.Finally 2006 came and im all set and ready to get me one. Heres the problem, i was driving around and ran into a beautiful,yellow 05 Lotus Elise convertible at a dealership. i test drove it and i fell inlove with it. i cant have both, i already own a gas guzzling LR3. dont know what to do.
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Everyone raves about the Elise. The Prowler is just different. Can't go wrong either way, but go for the Kat!

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I agree. Both are very nice (albeit, very different) automobiles. I actually thought about purchasing a Lotus Elise a couple of months ago, but I just couldn't get past the looks of the car. It does strike you as "different," but in a sort of goofy way (especially the front end). To me, the Prowler is a rolling work of art. And although the Elise is the better-handling car (by far) of the two, I still prefer the Prowler.

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posted 01-31-2006 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for junior420     send a private message to junior420   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by junior420
thanks for the replies..i think im going to go with the prowler. besides insurance will be lower(i think). i was even thinking about selling my LR3 but when snow comes what will i do with those 2 beautiful cars.
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posted 01-31-2006 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
I like both of them. I guess the Prowler maybe the way to go.Did you get your lottery ticket yet.
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Prowler, you either get it......or you don't
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The LOTUS ELISE..... I just don't see the big deal. Looks kinda cheapish. GO FOR THE PROWLER MY FRIEND!

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posted 01-31-2006 05:47 PM           send a private message to ASHEVILLE-KAT   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DUSTI
SOCRATES hit the nail on the head

Prowler will be your better choice !

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I'm not that thrilled with the size... they look so small.

Whats the price tag on the little fella ?

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posted 01-31-2006 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
Around 50k. Base is around 42k, than the extra kick in.
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From an old thread..but here's two orange side by side for comparison...we almost caused a pile-up on the Pasadena freeway..this one is a 2005, the 2006 Elise is even better. The Elise is tiny, not suitable for anyone who's tall/big. It does not have power steering/windows etc. My 0.02 is that it is a track car, even more than the Honda S2000. Kat and Elise -> different cars, different needs. U might want to check the Elise forums too if you still can't decide.




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Around 50k. Base is around 42k, than the extra kick in.

If I had the 50k I'd go for that sweet looking candy cat in the classified section and pocket the rest.......or spend it on tasteful mods...

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posted 01-31-2006 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder     send a private message to Thunder   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Thunder
What is the horsepower in the Elise and how much does it weigh?????
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What is the horsepower in the Elise and how much does it weigh?????

Around 180 to 190 hp I believe,,,,,toyota motor. Under 2000 lbs gross weight. The bucket seats,,,,,,,no padding at all and they look cheap. Rest of car is alright,,,,,,looks harder to get in and out of than a Prowler.

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in my life I've been lucky enough to work on and own a number of very exotic cars. They were all neat in their own way but after some 77,000+ miles on my Prowler and mileage on a number of other Kats as well I've got to say that I'll still take my Kat, hands down any day. I'm down at the dealer several time each week ordering or picking up parts that come in right on time and the prices are reasonable for the quality of parts. I don't think you and say that for the Lotus (or other exotics). The parts are going to available down the road for Kats 'cus their used on so many other Chrysler models. The specific parts for the Prowler will always have crazy people like me that will, if pushed to it, make any part necessary. T just don't see the Lotus corp backing up their car down the road. There just won't be enough market share for them to keep it rolling. Years ago I was tied up with various English cars and I was truly not impressed with the parts availability, prices but most of all the attitude of most parts places. To say the least they didn't truly care all at the same time they were reaching into my pockets for all the bucks they could get. I had this happened a number of times over a long period of time. I was trying to help several customers take care of some really nice condition British cars and it all really got very "RUDE" to do any kind of business "over there". I also would like to throw a time machine about 10 or 20 years down the time slot and ask the simple question...Which car will be a CLASS ACT then??? Boy that's and easy question as I see it. The Prowler will shine PROVIDING THAT THE OWNERS CONTINUE TO CAMPAIGN THEM IN ALL VENUES with class and determination not to let these beautiful cars DYE as an orphan. That's my take on it and I hope every other owner too. It's all up to us !!!!!!!Thanks for letting me ramble, Obi-Wan
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All the dealers I have looked at the Lotus at have the targa top off. Try getting in and out with the top ON.
Not easy at all. Go with the Kat and never look back.
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Both cars are very cool, but think how much the Elise could be worth down the road. Compare that to the proven high resale that Prowlers have.

Now, it may be tough to think about the possibility of getting rid of a car when you don't even have it yet, but it is an excellent testimony to the uniqueness, rarity and desiribility of a Prowler!

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GO WITH AN ORANGE PROWLER AND CALL IT A DAY YOU'LL BE HAPPIER THAT YOU DID. RICK
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buy mine its yellow and i will take 50k on it if you are making an offer lol
junior420
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posted 02-01-2006 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for junior420     send a private message to junior420   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by junior420
hey thanks for the replies...i dont know what got into me. im going to go with a prowler and it will be yellow only cuz its more noticeable
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if you pass on the prowler, everytime you see one or hear of one for sale, you will be kicking yourself in the A@@
the lotus will get old real fast--the prowler will live on forever !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted 02-01-2006 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DR PROWLER     send a private message to DR PROWLER   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by DR PROWLER
It's your money ultimately that you're spending and you have to decide which way.
I think Lotus is a stellar automobile and totally different from the prowler.I've owned the prowler now for just over 5 years and it's been probably the most attractive and mechanically virtually problem free car I've ever owned.
The other great reason for owning a Prowler is attending the events and meeting all these great folks that share the same passion.Might hold the same for Lotus...couldn't tell you.
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posted 02-01-2006 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kees     send a private message to kees   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by kees
Of course posing this question to this board is not
necessarily searching for an objective advise or recommendation.
Nor is posting this question on the Lotus Board for that matter.

Having said that, take a closer look at the pictures posted and you know
why this car has never been a success in Europe and never will be.

Don't know for the Prowler. It has never been exported to Europe
but the European case for the Elise is clear, far from a real European Design Statement.
I went through a cumbersome process to get the Prowler here
in The Netherlands, so did the few European owners, in total costs it's similar in price (at least in Holland) but I wouldn't trade.

best regards,

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quote:
Originally posted by DR PROWLER:
It's your money ultimately that you're spending and you have to decide which way.
I think Lotus is a stellar automobile and totally different from the prowler.I've owned the prowler now for just over 5 years and it's been probably the most attractive and mechanically virtually problem free car I've ever owned.
The other great reason for owning a Prowler is attending the events and meeting all these great folks that share the same passion.Might hold the same for Lotus...couldn't tell you.


i completely forgot about the events and meeting the great kat owners im actually looking forward to that..yea prowler it is. time to going hunting
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Originally posted by dreamcast18:
From an old thread..but here's two orange side by side for comparison...we almost caused a pile-up on the Pasadena freeway..this one is a 2005, the 2006 Elise is even better. The Elise is tiny, not suitable for anyone who's tall/big.

They both look to be about the same length though.

I'm not sure how the original poster could compare the two. Two totally different vehicles for two totally different purposes.

If you love to auto-cross, do rallies, or want a spirited ride, the elise is the only way to go. I've been told by a number of folks that it is a total kick to drive.

Yes, it's tiny, doesn't have alot of room, and it leaks when it rains. Ironically, those statements can be made about the Elise too!

The engine in it isn't too big but, you are really not pushing that much around either.

There are tons of clubs forming (or formed) for these and then new sister hardtop model due out (different name).

Another difference is that one has a fresh warranty that starts now. The other may have some residual warranty left but, at best, you are buying a 4 year old vehicle.

In the end, it honestly boils down to what you want to do with it. A Ferrari is great but, if you want to haul a boat, it's the wrong vehicle......


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