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IM IN XTC
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posted 01-22-2006 10:32 AM           send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by IM IN XTC
if anyone is interested in a class action with DC send me a pm
This wheel issue has got to be addressed as it is (from the sounds of things) that it is 80% of the wheels out there
so... I have someone who will take this matter on if there is enough interest
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posted 01-22-2006 10:37 AM           send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by halicat
I don't think there is anything i can do being in Canada.... but you have my support... let me know if i can help in any way.....

My Wheels are the worst according to Ed, but i will be painting the inside of the barrels within the next 3-4 weeks... I can't go another summer looking at this crap.

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posted 01-22-2006 11:22 AM           send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by IM IN XTC
before you paint.... please document the damage so we have all the proof.
Thanks
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posted 01-22-2006 01:50 PM           send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by halicat
I'll get lots of pictures...
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posted 01-22-2006 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRROWL     send a private message to GRROWL   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GRROWL
Not sure you would have found this in a search since it was buried under a different topic. Use it or not for what it's worth.

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Everything that follows was originally posted by GRROWL on 06-04-2005,
see: http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/013071.html :
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Originally posted by 99prowler99:
How about peeling rims also???

I have been watching these posts for some time (I gave up in disgust when Chrysler started turning down warranty claims on peeling chrome wheels DURING THE ORIGINAL 3/36 WARRANTY PERIOD), but will offer some observations and benefit of my web surfing.

No, I don’t believe there’s a snowball’s chance in he!! of getting wheels replaced by NHTSA action since there is no way that peeling chrome can be considered a safety issue.

However, with all of the discussion that’s taken place, I have yet to see mention of “The Implied Warranty of Merchantability” or liability for “Latent Defects”. I believe if someone is diligent enough, they could get Chrysler to replace everyone’s wheels (including center caps). Window regulators would also fall into this category.

Here’s what I found on the web. Do with it as you will:

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LATENT DEFECT, n.
“A hidden flaw, weakness or imperfection in an article which a seller knows about, but the buyer cannot discover by reasonable inspection. Generally, this entitles the purchaser to get his/her money back (rescind the deal) or get a replacement without a defect on the basis of "implied" warranty of quality that a buyer could expect ("merchantability"). Even an "as is" purchase could be rescinded if it could be shown the seller knew of the flaw. (See: warranty, implied warranty).”

1. It is easy to prove that a “hidden defect” exists since new wheels have peeled in the box.
2. Chrysler knew there were multiple occurrences of this hidden defect (constituting a “latent defect”?) when the second occurrence of chrome peeling was reported.
3. “Latent defects” have been interpreted to apply if the seller or manufacturer SHOULD HAVE known about the defect. A reasonable person would expect a company of the size and stature of Chrysler TO KNOW how to produce (or procure under contract) a wheel that doesn’t peel.
4. Personal opinion (just that this didn’t come up on a quick search), “inadequate design and engineering, by industry standards, can also produce a hidden/latent defect“. Think window regulators, wheel center caps, front shocks, hood props, etc., etc., in addition to wheels.

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IMPLIED WARRANTY OF MERCHANTABILITY
“Some warranties are "implied" by law. An implied warranty is a promise that the good will have characteristics or uses that the maker, distributor, or seller do not expressly state. An implied warranty assumes that the product is fit, safe and will perform the function for which it was purchased.

The implied warranty most useful to consumers is the "implied warranty of merchantability." It requires that goods be of "fair-average quality". The implied warranty of merchantability is interpreted so that sales contracts contain an implicit provision that goods sold under the contract are of the quality of other goods sold on the market and that the goods are reasonably fit for the use in which they were intended.”


1. “fair average quality” - is the average chrome wheel expected to peel in the box even before it is installed?
2. “quality of other goods sold on the market” - same as above
3. A reasonable person would expect that wheels would last the life of the car (or at least as long as the paint, and certainly as long as the 7-year extended warranty, AND AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE 3/36 WARRANTY)
4. Personal Opinion: As far as the functionality requirement, what is the function of a chrome-plated wheel? I believe that a reasonable person would expect a standard wheel to perform as a wheel and a chrome wheel to perform as a good-looking wheel. This is similar to the function of jewelry - "if it doesn’t retain it’s looks, it has lost its functional value“ just as peeling silver on silver-plated jewelry would fail to perform under this warranty.

Although used cars may be sold “As Is” (still able to prove “latent defect” if the seller knew about a problem), it is difficult to disclaim the “Warranty of Merchantability” on a new car regardless of the written warranty. I have more information on this if anyone is interested.

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posted 01-22-2006 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thunder     send a private message to Thunder   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Thunder
Lets get them to install ABS as well!!!
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posted 01-22-2006 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for phil2237     send a private message to phil2237   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by phil2237
COUNT ME IN..............
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posted 01-22-2006 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chasmccart     send a private message to chasmccart   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by chasmccart
My wheels were replaced under warranty by DC four months before I purchased it. The new ones are not peeling.

Charlie

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posted 01-23-2006 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TooHipCat     send a private message to TooHipCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by TooHipCat
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Originally posted by halicat:
I don't think there is anything i can do being in Canada

I can't see how that would matter Jim? Your cat is still a product of Chrysler. Why should its geographical location matter.

Brian

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Don't forget to send in your extensive
selection of pics.
I have to get out my camera too!

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posted 01-24-2006 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eilerts     send a private message to eilerts   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by eilerts
Count me in. I just bought new wheels to replace the real bad originals that pretty much were all flaked off. Sooner or later, I'm sure these new ones will flake as well. Let me know what I can do to help.

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