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PharmKat Prowler Junkie From:Fort Worth, TX USA |
posted 01-05-2006 07:54 AM
    
A thread in classifieds forced me to ask this. Do mods enhance or reduce a cars value? I know they are expensive and you will never get all of your money back, but does a $3000 paint job really reduce the value of the car? Other stuff is just bolt on and it seems like it is better to go back to stock and then sell the parts when it is time to get rid of a prowler. On a more personal question, I have Black Tie #007 and want to do a couple of mods but am afraid to do too much and then lower the value to a potential James Bond freak or something. I know everyone should have an opinion on this one, so chime in... Scott This message has been edited by PharmKat on 01-05-2006 at 07:54 AM |
Marty Usher          POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:San Antonio, Texas, United States |
posted 01-05-2006 08:05 AM
Most modifications are for the personal enjoyment of the owner and won't increase the value of the car when it comes time to sell. As you stated most sellers will be better off putting the car back to stock or near stock to sell. Even high end items like a Paxton SC don't seem to bring much of a premium. The exceptions woulod be a hardtop and/or trailer. As far as reducing the value (which obviously hasn't bothered me since my car has so many mods and with over 100K miles wouldn't matter anyway) it depends on whether the car is being bought to drive or mainly store to keep for long term. |
WildCat           POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:North Louisville, Indiana, USA |
posted 01-05-2006 08:37 AM
quote: I knew when I painted my car that I was hurting the value of it. I bought my car when people were paying over $50,000 for their car. I paid $41,000 (list price), so I figured I could do what I wanted and still not have to worry about what it cost.
WOULD I DO IT AGAIN?.........I think so because I was not worried about the resale since I did not plan on selling the car.......BUT I would not do as much.....all I wanted was some graphics to make it look different from all the other yellow cars.....well with all the modified cars a stock one is the one that looks different now My car and Dave Ridge's car was built the same day and mine started 1 hour before his..thay are easy to tell apart now
I would say the Johnny Lightning diecast of my car would not have happened if it was JUST A YELLOW Prowler.....I had one guy that wanted to buy the car and I gave him a price just before the stock market DROP a few years ago, but how many people would want this car? Add ons, chrome, and vinyl graphics would be the best mods so it can go back to stock if you need/want to sell it. ------------------
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Randy Cobb POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Greensboro, NC |
posted 01-05-2006 08:41 AM
I think minor enhancement mods like mud flaps and ceramic brake pads are appreciated by a knowledgable buyer, but like Marty said custom paint and major interior mods are done to the particular taste of the owner and I think these mods may turn some potential buyers away. JMO. |
tangled up in BLUE POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:New Castle, Ind |
posted 01-05-2006 09:22 AM
....as a rule, mods bring pennies on the dollar at best...some can actually devalue the car....changing the paint usually hurts the value by the expense to repaint it the correct color....in the MOPAR world the joke is, green cars are actually worth more painted any other color BUT green....that may be the same with gold Prowlers in the decades to come... ....totally stock is the way to go for collector value, but these cars are still probably a good ten years away from much appreciation, so why wait, just enjoy the car now and worry about collector values when the next generation buys these.... the pictures below are the same car and I am having alot more fun with the car since the changes, did it hurt the value, maybe, maybe not....it could have actually increased the value to some people....I don't really care because the Kat isn't for sale, and probably never will be, so I am going to use it up now and let the heirs to my estate worry about scraping off the hideous orange paint
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Rpowell593 unregistered Admin Use |
posted 01-05-2006 10:04 AM
since you got black tie #007, may I suggest rocket launchers, and a reservoir to dump an oil slick on anyone that tries to overtake you from behind. Surely a true BOND vehicle  |
Gene POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:St.Petersburg,Fl USA |
posted 01-05-2006 10:25 AM
I believe any mods.made by a owner is to put his signature on the car and says this is the way I like it.If I were looking for a Prowler and it had mods.that I liked it wouldn't take anything away from car,as matter of fact to might add to value for me.I thing it is all personal taste since all people like different things,colors,performance,etc. |
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quincy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fairfield Glade, TN. USA |
posted 01-05-2006 10:31 AM
PharmKat, You bought your Prowler to enjoy. Modify the hell out of it if you wish and drive the wheels off! If by chance you purchased it for an investment, cocoon the beauty and check up on her every 10 years or so. |
Dave Mills POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Johnstown, PA, USA |
posted 01-05-2006 11:22 AM
All my mods are reversible. The pinstripes are vinyl, the bumpers can be bolted back on, and I have an original grille to replace the chrome one if necessary. The air patrol and trailer probably have value. |
CJ POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Rochester Hills, MI USA |
posted 01-05-2006 04:22 PM
As far as collectible value, stock is always best. When you do mods to the car (or any car) it's going to take just the right buyer (who likes all the mods you've done) to buy it if you want to sell.  |
BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 01-05-2006 05:38 PM
I think I know the thread you are talking about. I even believe it may have even have been my comment regarding the custom paint on a Black Tie on Ebay. In my personal opinion if you are concerned about value, the two colors that would be most affected by custom paint are the Black Tie and Woodward Prowlers. And of course the High Voltage Blue. The one on Ebay had a buy it now price of 38,500. If there were two Black Ties for sale at that price I would probably take the one without custom paint. Our Prowler is custom painted and I would do it again. I also don't plan to ever sell , however I know that I have reduced the buyer pool if I ever did. |
BradleyG POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Dallas, Texas |
posted 01-05-2006 06:31 PM
Scott, Go for all the mods you like. You will probably keep #007 forever anyway. But, you already have a Prowler that is "One of a KIND" There is no other #007 Black Tie. Keep it stock!! My "One of a Kind" #096 Black Tie is in the process of having several mods installed. Like Dave mentioned, all of my mods will be reversible simply by just putting the stock parts back on. Eventhough, I plan on keeping it forever, things may change someday where I can't or my kids can change it after I'm driving my original 427 Cobra in heaven. I am reluctant to change the paint because it is hard to beat the color scheme we have now. I will probably add something subtle on my new engine panels. I really like the looks of a stock Black Tie. I think TUIB said it well "just enjoy the car now and worry about collector values when the next generation buys these...." After saying all that... I think a stock Black Tie will be worth more than a modified one. In a few years. |
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Snoman unregistered Admin Use |
posted 01-05-2006 07:47 PM
WHO CARES????????? MOD AWAY.................. |
Chromer POA Site Supporter With Jack the Wonder Dog - Official POA Mascot Personal ScrapBook From:Denver, Colorado, USA |
posted 01-05-2006 07:50 PM
Geezzz..I hope we haven't effectively deprived our after market suppliers from even more business with thread?  ...I'd shamelessly take this opportunity to post MORE pictures of my modified car to this thread, but Tangled has beat me to it If (when) I sell, I'll strip every mod from the car and return it close to stock and sell the aftermarket parts. Probably for 50 cents on the dollar if I'm lucky. Sure having FUN NOW |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 01-05-2006 10:42 PM
PharmKat, would you buy a modded out Prowler for an extra $ 6000 over the exact same Prowler that is stock? It all depends, like everyone said. |
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IM IN XTC unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 01-05-2006 11:25 PM
I have a lime green and Burgundy strip on my yellow.. but it is vinyl and it comes off with a heat gun and some wax to polish and shine it up.... this was the way to go as I want to change the colors and design soon. I have pics on the Scrapbook under IM IN XTC go see |
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meandmykitty unregistered Personal ScrapBook Admin Use |
posted 01-06-2006 12:49 AM
THE MODS THAT I HAVE DONE WERE FOR ME, IF I SELL IT WHICH WILL BE NEVER,IT WILL GO THE WAY IT IS, I BELIEVE THAT THE PROWLER WILL NEVER GO UP IN PRICE, BUT IT WILL GO DOWN IN PRICE. JMO. ALSO I KNOW OF A FORMER PROWLER OWNER THAT PROBABLY SPENT ABOUT 10K ON MODS AND SOLD ALL OF THE MODS FOR HALF 5K AND THIS WAS DONE IN A VERY SHORT TIME IT'S VERY SAD AT LEAST TO ME. RICK This message has been edited by meandmykitty on 01-06-2006 at 12:54 AM |
ALLEY CAT POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:mesa, az, USA |
posted 01-06-2006 05:42 AM
I always have figured you are lucky to get back 30% of the cost of mods, if left on the car. Better to put back to stock and sell off the aftermarket stuff to buyers who know what they want to make their car look better/different. JMO - always wrong,,,never in doubt |
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PharmKat Prowler Junkie From:Fort Worth, TX USA |
posted 01-06-2006 08:01 AM
Thanks for all of the replies. Most of the mods I am wanting to do are removable so I'm going to start up soon. The only big time thing I may do in a couple of years is the white pearl paint, but for that I think I'll buy a beater prowler for cheap $$ and make her prety again. I'll post a few pics in the coming months as the mods get done. Thanks again for all of the replies, and if they were ever to come up for sale, I would definitely pay more for TUIB and Snoman's cars. Scott |
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halicat unregistered Admin Use |
posted 01-06-2006 05:09 PM
What do mods do to Prowler values? I guess it depends on who is assessing the value.... The mods I've done on my car are ones I put alot of thought in to. What can I say.... |
pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 01-06-2006 05:59 PM
I have put mods on all my cars, whatever makes the car look better, I'm for it. Its like having an am/fm radio in the car and telling everyone it came that way so I am not going to change it, keeping it stock. Just think if no one ever put mods on a car all newer year cars would look the same. When new models come out, they usually have the mods that others put on. PT cruiser is a good point every new year has the mods owners have put on previosly. I guess it comes down to "its my car and I really don't care what the next owner wants". I bet if all the mods cost a dollar and were installed free, a lot of stock cars would not be stock. Either way the Prowler is great stock or not stock.  ------------------ More 'Pumpkin' photos . . . . . More cars and other stuff New pictures in Personal Scrapbook (02/23/03) "The Prowler is not a car to go from Point A to Point B. The Prowler is the Point!" |
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Bcoffman Gray Ghost Prowler Junkie From:Marshall,Mo.65340 |
posted 01-07-2006 11:38 AM
quote: Hey Pumpkin, I was in the car business when an AM radio was an extra cost option. And it would surprise you how many people didn't want one-o-them noisy things in their car. Nobody had even heard of FM radios then. This was in the 1940's. |
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obi-wan Prowler Junkie From:Los Altos, CA, USA |
posted 01-09-2006 12:30 PM
I strongly believe in enhancements as long as they are reversible. Almost every one of my products install to Prowlers without any mod's at all. When a mod' is required it cannot be seen as in a small hole to hold a tiewrap under the car. I try very hard not to even have those. I tell everyone to take the orig. parts that have been upgraded and label them careful after cleaning and pack them away as an archival in a safe place-all together, with the installation instructions so the items can be reinstalled if necessary. In my opinion there's no reason to keep these cars totally stock. There easy to modify and just get better and better when the mod's are done correctly. They are not world collectors cars even though they are in such a small no. of production. I was in the exotic car business all my life and these are not in that world. Personally I believe they are far better than that because they can be upgraded. The main thing is to have responsible aftermarket producers that are willing to go the extra 3 miles to make really proper parts and accessories for these vehicles. There are really good ones out there and some that are not responsible in my opinion. BE CAREFUL. Research each item carefully before you buy and install any item and for heavens sake don't be afraid to take something off and through it away (or sell it) if you learn that it can hurt your car or you con't like it. Above all, don't put junk on your Kat. I've seen this happened time and time again and I just turn away without saying anything unless the owner wants to know then I will tell that person what they don't always want to here but I firmly believe that's the best way in the long run. Cheep parts and assemblies are never going to make these cars what they deserve to be. There a real class act and deserve to be treated that way. Thanks for letting me vent this here and I hope I've helped someone while on my soapbox, Obi-Wan |
Black Tie 161 POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:MD, USA |
posted 01-10-2006 09:31 AM
Here's a thought. I upgraded the exhaust with the Borla a few years ago. It had a MOPAR Part #. It was dealer installed. It will never rust like the original system was doing. Is that considered a Mod? Is it a Dealer option upgrade? Is this a gray area? Other than that, there are many mods to the car that can be reversed to stock for resale. |
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pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 01-10-2006 09:38 AM
I believe its a mod. |
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