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posted 10-29-2005 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
I have a 97 Prowler and I noticed today when changing the oil ....I think it's the stabilizer link bushing are rotted or shot. They are close to the shocks and battery in the front of the Prowler. I have attached a photo of the problem below. The bushing seem to have a similar problem to the ball-joints? Do I smell a recall?

Has anyone had this issue before? Can I fix it myself or should I have Prowler "Jim" fix it at the dealer.



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Any help would greatly appreciated.


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This message has been edited by spoons on 10-30-2005 at 07:35 PM

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spoons, maybe a change out to the LL sway bar would lessen strain on the bushings?
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posted 10-29-2005 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chromer     send a private message to Chromer   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Chromer
Yikes Spoons..

What a bummer..just checked mine and so far no problems?? (production date 11/98). Keep us posted.

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Just checked mine


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Isn't that the swaybar bushings we are looking at? Should not be a big deal to correct and is not a safety issue so therefore no recall.

This message has been edited by MDProwler on 10-29-2005 at 11:09 PM

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The link pictured is not a tie rod end.

What you are seeing is the end of the stabilizer link. The bushing isn't bad, only the protective cover/seal is split. At this time the only fix is to replace the stabilizer link since the covers are not available as a stand alone item.
Many have been replaced under warranty. If you're out of warranty, I'm pretty sure a tie rod end cover could be used but they are hard to find without a tie rod end. You may be able to find some at a local alignment shop.

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Only way to get the bushings is as part of a new Stabilizer Link. Part# 4786592AB, same part number for either side. Lists for around $100.00 each....With our POA discount from the different Dealers, you should be able to pick up a pair for about $120.00 plus tax and the ride.. Good luck! Buddy
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I have them disconnected this about 5000miles. They are so, so stabilized/ hard, they actually bring the feeling of a straight/axles into the prowler independent front suspension.
It takes less than 5 minutes to disconnect them (or put them on again)
I got a LOT smother better ride comfort!!!!!!! yes,yes,yes
Even on fast turns,it is still ok, nut unsave.
I put them on again when I race the Prowler a bit at the Hockenheim F-1 Raceway.

This message has been edited by condor on 10-31-2005 at 01:38 PM

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The bushing look like they exploded! Could hitting some Detroit style pot holes or nasty RR tracks cause these to split like they did??
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posted 10-30-2005 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
I have a couple of questions for you guys:

1) How do I go about getting Chrysler to make the bushings a separate part to purchase? I know it past there as been similar issues with other Prowler parts (i.e. Plastic locks for the convertible top latch)

2) Is it safe for me to remove the stabilizer link myself? Is the link under any type of load or compression?

3) Hoe do I go about getting a potential recall started?


Thanks for all your help guys! Knowing the P/N sure does help!

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posted 10-30-2005 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeWare     send a private message to BeWare   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by BeWare
I just checked ours and they look good as new (same as Chromers) Production 09/98.

I have a theory , for whatever that is worth. You FL Cat owners may not like it. I think its the salty air in Florida causing this and some other problems I have seen mostly on FL Cats. This is why I refused to drive our Cat on the beach when we attended the Turkey Run in 2003. I did not want that salty sand getting in to every nook and cranny of our Cat

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posted 10-31-2005 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spoons     send a private message to spoons   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by spoons
Beware,

I thought of that. The salty air might have played a roll in the bushing seals rotting away.

It might also be the suspension brace? Do either of you have a front suspension brace?

It could also be the age of the car plus the miles? Ted has 60k and mine has 30k. Beware how many miles do you have on your cat?

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I called Jeff Hunter at Moper Super Center in NC and he said the sway bat link are $61 each (POA price) + shipping. My only fear it that the rubber boots will break down again.

Therefore I am think about replacing the sway bar links with Aircraft grade Heim Joint. This would be a permanent fix and would not corrode.


This message has been edited by spoons on 10-31-2005 at 08:37 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by spoons:
Beware,

It might also be the suspension brace? Do either of you have a front suspension brace?

Beware how many miles do you have on your cat?


We have 32,300 miles on our Cat and we have had an Jay Harris upper suspension brace installed for over two years

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posted 10-31-2005 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WildCat     send a private message to WildCat   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by WildCat
Brian,

all rubber parts will decompose with time. You have one of the oldest Prowler. The air conditions and UV rays are what attack the rubber parts

Anyone living close to the ocean has a very hard enviroment with the salt in the air

When I was in Hawaii I was surprised to see cars rusting. They rust from the top down, except for my buddies 74 camero with had been taken there by a navy guy from PA. so it rust from the bottom up and the top down. A trip to the sugar cane field junk yard, to get it a new door, and most all the cars in there were rusting around the windows. I didn't look at the rubber parts but would bet they were starting to deteriorate.

It isn't a big deal in my opinion.

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My 97, built 8/97, 12K miles, one boot on each side is also busted. I have been to the beach in the car a time or two but always cleaned it thoroughly afterwards. I don't see that or salt air as an issue in my case.
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Invest $ 260 for a WONDER BAR . Your problems are gone and you get a lot better driving comfort........
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quote:
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Invest $ 260 for a WONDER BAR . Your problems are gone and you get a lot better driving comfort........

Condor. NO knock on the wonder bar, but I'm not understanding why buying a wonder will diminish sway bar bushing rott?? All the plastic parts that are photographed are retained even with the LL bar replacement ..

It could be the salt air, or perhaps the Avian Flu virus

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Chromer, I would think with the Wonder Bar, the link bushings would not be getting as hammered as they do with the Stock Sway Bar...That could extend the bushing's life some. Maybe Condor is on to something.
For what its worth, I just checked and 3 of the 4 bushings on my '99 have failed too, all within the last year (they were good when I installed the Wonder Bar). But I attribute the failure to this Texas Heat even though I have both the Upper and Lower suspension braces. Rubber is rubber and will dry out and eventually crack. Heat is the biggest culprit of all, age being the next. Dont see how the Braces could effect the Stabilizer Bushings. PS- never been to the Beach with my Kat....

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...ANOTHER example of DC FORCING you to buy half a car just for a dang rubber bushing.

I have a torn upper ball joint boot. I'm supposed to pay $700 because DC makes you buy the whole control arm....$#@!!$#

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I think you can buy all bushings for the Prowler.
I bought all front axle ones, just in case.
Hot Rod Shops and aftermarket suplierer offer bushings in all sizes, some shops custom fit them.
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And, again, try to cruise without the front stabilizer. If your KAt feels better, think about a different system ( no stabi, wonderbar or ??)
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quote:
Originally posted by spoons:
It could also be the age of the car plus the miles? Ted has 60k and mine has 30k.

My 1997 has just over 32,000 miles on it now and my bushings look great:

I installed a Wonder Bar a few months ago, but the only result has been a much smoother ride.

Good luck to you!

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Any one replace there stabilizer link yet ir find a replacement yet?

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only ones that are available are the stock ones.a friend of mine had 6000 miles on his and had to replace them.i have 105.000 on mine and they are still good.no reason for the premature failure.i did get another set of worn ones,and was going to take to performance suspension to see if they could be replaced with a/m.havent done it yet.

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