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Brivnov Prowler Newbie From:Northern Virginia |
posted 06-08-2005 10:03 AM
I am looking at purchasing a 1997 prowler (Yes I am very excited) and had a few questions. 1) Are there any major differences in the model year that I should look out for (Major upgrades, issue fixes) 2) Are there any major issues with any of the major mechanicals of that model year? Thanks in advance and hopefully I will be able to announce my new weekend ride soon |
pumpkin POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Visit Waleke's World Personal ScrapBook From:Las Cruces, NM, USA |
posted 06-08-2005 10:16 AM
I guess, just get one and you will be happy. |
Dead End Don Prowler Junkie From:Palos Verdes, California USA |
posted 06-08-2005 01:09 PM
Others here know much more about the details than I do, but personally, I would not buy a '97 unless getting the very first model year was important. They do not have chrome wheels (although some here may see that as a blessing), but my understanding is that the suspension was improved in subsequent years. Also, the 97 has a cast iron engine block which develops significantly less horsepower and torque that the all-aluminum engines in later model years. There may be some interior features and amenities lacking in the 97's, as well, like the read-out on the mirror, etc. C'mon, all you experts here - help this guy out -y'all know a whole lot more than I do about this stuff!!! |
quincy POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fairfield Glade, TN. USA |
posted 06-08-2005 01:36 PM
Depends on the price. A 97, as brother Don states, has a smaller engine, very heavy Fe block, and did have some additional 'quality concerns'. This is why no 98 model year was produced. The 'fixes' were implemented for 99 and the vehicle was re-introduced. I shyed away from a 97 for these reasons. But, if the 97 price is right, and your budget is tight, and you really want a Prowler, go for it! |
Brivnov Prowler Newbie From:Northern Virginia |
posted 06-08-2005 01:47 PM
Thank you for the comments so far. From what I am seeing there is no significant cost saving I would get on the 1997. I am hoping to use this car more then just a 2,000 mile a year vehicle, so finding a newer model may make sense. Thanks again |
Kevin A POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Gahanna, Ohio |
posted 06-08-2005 02:12 PM
This should answer EVERYTHING.... Prowler Story |
Gene POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:St.Petersburg,Fl USA |
posted 06-08-2005 02:41 PM
For what I know and have been told the 2000 models have all the updates,so my pick would be 2000-01-02.Promise you that you will love it. |
SILVRKAT POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Capon Bridge, WV USA |
posted 06-08-2005 02:46 PM
Hello and welcome. I'm also a Prowler newbe kind of (bought my Prowler in Jan 05 and joined up here online shortly after. Where are you located in Northern VA. I'm up in Winchester VA. There was a '97 up here on a used car lot not long ago, it looked and sounded good, but seemed a little overpriced at $29.900.00. I have seen a lot better deals here on Prowleronline. I got mine off eBay and flew down to Tampa, FL and drove it home. It has been great, I'm very happy with the car and seem to have gotten a good deal from what I have seen and heard since then. My 2000 Prowler had 30,000 miles, some mods (front bumpers removed and turn signal kit install) the price was $26,000.00. It has no real problems and looks great. watch here and see what the Prowler veterans say, they will not mislead you! |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 06-08-2005 04:02 PM
quote: 1. Where in Northern VA are you? 2. There's a 97 with trailer for sale in Sterling Drive the 97 before letting others sell you off of the idea - it's THE FIRST YEAR! -GRROWL |
Brivnov Prowler Newbie From:Northern Virginia |
posted 06-08-2005 06:07 PM
Thanks for all the replies. I am actually located in Herndon, VA. If anyone knows of any later model yellow or purple prowlers, let me know. I plan on still looking at the 1997 prowler but will be a bit more cautious. |
Brivnov Prowler Newbie From:Northern Virginia |
posted 06-08-2005 06:09 PM
And Thank you for the link, great information |
halicat unregistered Admin Use |
posted 06-08-2005 06:42 PM
quote: i did a lot of research before i purchased....i went for a 2000 |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 06-08-2005 07:14 PM
I've driven 97 and newer cars and to be honest I couldn't tell any horspower difference. Th 97 surprised me since I had always heard about the lower HP rating. 97 and 99s will have silver wheels. This can a blessing or a curse. My choice is the chrome wheels. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 06-08-2005 07:29 PM
Larry, the early 99s had silver wheels but starting in March of 99 they all came with Chrome wheels. I got mine early April 99 with Chrome. |
Larry Lord Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Colton, CA |
posted 06-08-2005 08:21 PM
You are correct Ed. I meant to say 97s and some 99s. My first yellow (5/98 build date if I remember correctly) had silver wheels before I had the dealer swap them with the chrome wheels of a 99 purple that was in their showroom. Thanks for keeping me honest. This message has been edited by Larry Lord on 06-08-2005 at 08:21 PM |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 06-08-2005 08:49 PM
quote: Looks like you're out of luck - there ARE NO later model purples (97 and 99 only) and there are already two yellows in Herndon - NO MORE ALLOWED. I'm by the high school - if you want to get together, just send me your contact info. I have the contact info for the purple 97 with trailer that's about 3 miles from here - if you like purple, you might want to consider it - first year with trailer should prove to be a collectable. -GRROWL |
idive POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Texas USA |
posted 06-09-2005 12:37 PM
thanks grrowl... LOL ------------------ |
YellowFever unregistered Admin Use |
posted 06-09-2005 05:58 PM
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BeWare POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Acworth , Georgia , USA |
posted 06-09-2005 06:24 PM
In addition to what has been mentioned. Most of these are minor. The 1997's had a hood prop rod. Mid year 1999 they switched to gas shocks. The 97 and 99's have a palstic shift bezel with a plastic slide. 2000 and newer they are chrome with a leather boot. The 1997's has dual throttle bodies and a different air plenum and upper radiator support.
The deck lid carpet is different (much nicer) on the 2000 and later models. 2000 There are a few key model year changes to the Prowler. The suspension shocks & springs are changed to a new design for smoother ride. Low friction ball joints were added to the upper lateral links on the rear suspension. The 1997 and 1999 came with Koni Shocks and ride somewhat lower than the later models. They switched to another brand in 2000, but these began to have leaking problems. Under warranty these are now being replaced by the Koni's .The run flat tires (20" rear and 17" front) are redesigned with a softer side wall for smoother ride and new recommended tire pressure of 28 psi for all four tires. A new auto dimming rear view mirror with mini trip odometer and temperature gauge is introduced. A new radio with speed sensitive volume control to automatically increase or decrease the audio level with change in speed. The bumpers are repainted from Gray to Black. The alternator is changed to a new design with declutching pulley to eliminate the serpentine drive belt rattle that occurs as the belt tension decays (relaxes) as the 3.5L does not have an automatic belt tensioner Common / reported problems: Inaccaurate fuel gauge readings, also the 97's and 99's can be hard to fill at certain gas stations unkless they have had the upgrade done on the filler neck. Blistering / peeling chrome on the inside barrels of the wheels. Wheel center caps are plastic and the tabs that hold them on are easily broken. Several transaxle input and output sensors failures have been reported. Hood gas shock need to be replaced every 1.5 to 2 years as they will no longer support the weight of the hood. There have been several reports of clock springs breaking in the steering column. This makes the radio contols etc on the steering wheel not work. Recently there have been several reports of window regulator failures Also: There was a ball joint recall so make sure the recall has been performed. Theres may be more, but that is all I can think of right now. This message has been edited by BeWare on 06-09-2005 at 06:32 PM |
Chromer POA Site Supporter With Jack the Wonder Dog - Official POA Mascot Personal ScrapBook From:Denver, Colorado, USA |
posted 06-09-2005 06:45 PM
quote: BeWare...Well written reply... The only section I'd comment on is that the (much nicer) formed rear deck lid carpet was upgraded in the later part of the 1999 model year run. Brivnov...no question about it...don't mess with a '97 or '99 unless the price is exceptional. As stated..go with the '00 '01 or '02! JMFO |
Brivnov Prowler Newbie From:Northern Virginia |
posted 06-10-2005 07:56 AM
Thank you for everyone's comments. Since I want to actually acrue miles on the prowler (I like to drive my cars), I think I will wait to get a later model. |
ed monahan POA Lifetime Site Supporter Prowler Junkie Personal ScrapBook From:Cincinnati, Oh, USA |
posted 06-10-2005 10:58 AM
I own a 99 and a 2002. The differences are not all that great. The 2002 is a little smoother but not all that much. |
BuckNekkid Prowler Junkie From:Ocala, FL |
posted 06-10-2005 05:38 PM
I have to take exception to a couple of posts in this thread. In fact, they kinda pissed me off. All of the problems cited from blistered and peeling wheels to inaccurate gas gauge readings to hood shocks having to be replaced could apply to ALL years. In fact, early 99s don't have failed hood shocks because they have PROP RODS. It's misleading to suggest any of those issues are specific to pre 2000 cars - that's simply not true. You can add the decklid carpet to the earlier cars (it's readily available from any Chrysler dealer) for not much more than $100, along with the chrome shifter bezel (also under $150). I have a 99 and I haven't had a single problem with it - ever:
I could go on and on, but you get the point. It's one thing to joke about which color is best or what mod is better than another, but I think I'm speaking for all of the pre '00 owners when I say that those of us with 99s would appreciate if those of you with later cars wouldn't tell people not to "mess" with our year cars, or we'll find ourselves in the unfortunate position of having to point out all of the things that could be wrong with your cars to level the playing field once again. By the time we're done, it will appear as if no Prowler is worth owning, which we all know is the furthest thing from the truth. One man's opinion, do with it what you will. This message has been edited by BuckNekkid on 06-11-2005 at 06:56 AM |
GRROWL POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Herndon, VA |
posted 06-10-2005 05:47 PM
quote: Well said (all of it). But as we all know, the best are 99 and 00's - the ONLY years for yellow PLYMOUTH prowlers. -GRROWL |
MDProwler POA Site Supporter Prowler Junkie From:Fallston,MD USA |
posted 06-10-2005 06:30 PM
Sounds like a pissing match to me. The question was' Are there any major differences in the model year that I should look out for (Major upgrades, issue fixes)' BeWare just stated facts found anywhere and made no reference as to the 'best' years. He stated known issues and which years were affected. Chromer stated an opinion and I'm sure he can defend himself so enough on that. 'or we'll be forced to point out all of the things that are wrong with your cars to level the playing field'
But it's still only a car, you know, metal and plastic? |
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