posted 04-25-2005 01:11 PM                  

I have a legitimate way to raise a good portion, if not all of the money it takes to maintain this site without it costing anyone a dime. No membership fees will be necessary. In fact everyone who participates will actually make money, in a manner of speaking. No BS.

Before I get to my offer, let me just say this - I just finished reading a number of the threads about advertisers, vendors, overhead, and personality conflicts. Wow. What a mess. With all due respect, just because we have the right to free speech doesn't mean we have to exercise it - Mike and Judy do an amazing job with this site (thanks Krehels), and the members are what makes it's existence worthwhile. I own a company myself. With authority comes responsibility. Sometimes necessary decisions are unpopular - but that doesn't make them any less necessary. I'll leave it at that.

The company I own is a telecommunications management company - we've been around for 11 years, and I have huge contracts with all the major telecommunications service providers. Simply put, I have some of the most aggressive pricing in the industry. Here's my offer - I will provided extremely aggressive long distance pricing to any POA member, family, or friend, either residential or business or both, and donate the majority of my share of the revenues to the POA. Everyone who participates will save significantly on their monthly phone bills, and the site will receive significant revenues. Everybody wins.

Here's an example:

If 500 people participate and they average $30 a month each in long distance, that's $15,000 in total monthly billing. If I was to give 7.5% to the POA, that would be $1,125.00 per month EVERY MONTH from now on to help fund the POA. That's $13,500 a year, or, from what I understand, the majority of what it costs to fund this site. If the particpation is greater or the average bill larger, obviously it would be reasonable to think that this could offset the entire cost of operating the site, so that Mike and Judy are giving us only their time, not their time AND their money.

For those of you in any of the RBOC (Baby Bell - PacBell, Bell South, SW Bell, SBC, etc.) areas I can offer you 3.9 cent a minute long distance with 6 second billing. In other areas it may be 4.5 or 4.9 depending on who your local exchange carrier is. This offer is good for both residential and small business customers.

I have sub 1.5 cent interstate pricing for those of you who own or manage businesses that have dedicated access (T1s). I would be happy to discuss this further with you via a phone conversation. We do an exceptional job - we have many clients who have been with us for 6 or 7 years, many of whom spend anywhere from $5k to $65k per month, so you can rest assured your experience will be a good one.

Depending on the response to this post, I'll post further details and we'll work out the best way to pursue this.

Comments? Questions? Speak freely.

Who's in?

If you'd prefer to remain anonymous, PM or email me at phonebiz@comcast.net

posted 04-25-2005 01:25 PM                  

I don't care if 2 people participate or 2000, the offer stands. It's my way of saying "thanks" to the Krehels, and to all of you for so significantly enhancing the Prowler ownership experience.

By the way, it's easy and painless. One form, which I can email or fax to you, and we'll handle it from there. You don't have to do a thing.

posted 04-25-2005 02:42 PM                  

And here I thought people would rather save a few hundred bucks a year than to have to pay for membership to the POA site.

Heck, Geico only claims to save you 15% and they have millions of customers. I can save you alot more than that and we can all "save" the POA website

posted 04-25-2005 02:49 PM                    

quote:

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Originally posted by BuckNekkid:
I'd like to offer my services to the POA. Please read this.

I have a legitimate way to raise a good portion, if not all of the money it takes to maintain this site without it costing anyone a dime. No membership fees will be necessary. In fact everyone who participates will actually make money, in a manner of speaking. No BS.

Before I get to my offer, let me just say this - I just finished reading a number of the threads about advertisers, vendors, overhead, and personality conflicts. Wow. What a mess. With all due respect, just because we have the right to free speech doesn't mean we have to exercise it - Mike and Judy do an amazing job with this site (thanks Krehels), and the members are what makes it's existence worthwhile. I own a company myself. With authority comes responsibility. Sometimes necessary decisions are unpopular - but that doesn't make them any less necessary. I'll leave it at that.

The company I own is a telecommunications management company - we've been around for 11 years, and I have huge contracts with all the major telecommunications service providers. Simply put, I have some of the most aggressive pricing in the industry. Here's my offer - I will provided extremely aggressive long distance pricing to any POA member, family, or friend, either residential or business or both, and donate the majority of my share of the revenues to the POA. Everyone who participates will save significantly on their monthly phone bills, and the site will receive significant revenues. Everybody wins.

Here's an example:

If 500 people participate and they average $30 a month each in long distance, that's $15,000 in total monthly billing. If I was to give 7.5% to the POA, that would be $1,125.00 per month EVERY MONTH from now on to help fund the POA. That's $13,500 a year, or, from what I understand, the majority of what it costs to fund this site. If the particpation is greater or the average bill larger, obviously it would be reasonable to think that this could offset the entire cost of operating the site, so that Mike and Judy are giving us only their time, not their time AND their money.

For those of you in any of the RBOC (Baby Bell - PacBell, Bell South, SW Bell, SBC, etc.) areas I can offer you 3.9 cent a minute long distance with 6 second billing. In other areas it may be 4.5 or 4.9 depending on who your local exchange carrier is. This offer is good for both residential and small business customers.

I have sub 1.5 cent interstate pricing for those of you who own or manage businesses that have dedicated access (T1s). I would be happy to discuss this further with you via a phone conversation. We do an exceptional job - we have many clients who have been with us for 6 or 7 years, many of whom spend anywhere from $5k to $65k per month, so you can rest assured your experience will be a good one.

Depending on the response to this post, I'll post further details and we'll work out the best way to pursue this.

Comments? Questions? Speak freely.

Who's in?

If you'd prefer to remain anonymous, PM or email me at phonebiz@comcast.net

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BuckNekkid,

i will go first...sounds like a hell of a deal....I don't see why people wouldn't sign up?? sounds like you may even save them $$ as well.... As for me i don't have home phone and i use my company cell phone and have a nation-wide flat rate....this can also work for family members as well right? the idea is to get as many people as possible to sign up with you??

Thanks for the offer ..

posted 04-25-2005 06:21 PM                  

In order:

davidn: I understand completely - I know a number of people who use cell phones as their home phone. As far as friends and relatives go, you bet - anyone who participates as a result of this post, whether it's a POA member, friend, family, business acquaintance or otherwise, will go in the POA's "folder" and the POA will benefit from it.

Silvrkat & MeanGene: Thanks Shoot me a quick PM with your phone number (so I can do what's called an NPA-NXX search and determine whether you're RBOC or Non-RBOC) and I'll email or fax you the appropriate form. Feel free to PM or email me with any questions you have - I'd be happy to answer them.

Dustis - We have outstanding international pricing - PM or email me a list of the specific countries you call most often, and I'll send you back the pricing to those countries.

Ty - There is nothing I can say that would be anything other than an excuse - I never took the pictures, and then I pulled the shifter and bezel out thinking I was gonna have to sell the car. Now I'm gonna keep it and I still haven't put 'em back in. Please don't let this be a "trust" issue - but I'll respect your decision, whatever it may be. I've bought a number of items from different people on this site, so they can vouch for my "trustworthiness" if need be.

WantOne: I am not a "reseller" per se - the way I structured this company back before the deregulation of the industry allows me to function sort of like an independent insurance agent - we work for the customer, not the carrier. We provide our clients with the product or products that best suit their specific needs - every business is different, so no one carrier is right for everyone. While I have contracts with all of the majors and a number of very large resellers who are friends of mine, the biggest difference between me and the "independent insurance agent" analogy (aside from the fact that I don't sell insurance LOL) is that I have products from (for example) Qwest and MCI that you could not get if you went directly to Qwest and MCI - the volume of business we represent to the carriers we've chosen to work with provides us a level of negotiating strength that any individual business "customer" would not have, allowing us to secure pricing for our clients that would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, for any single "customer" to acquire on their own. We function as an extension of our clients' staff - unlike a "carrier rep" or the typical reseller, we can provide products from multiple carriers to the same customer if that is what is best for them.

As far as your questions goes, the biggest issues right now are LEC related, more specifically regarding the UNEP platform, and while I do have some really strong UNEP offerings (particularly in the Bell South footprint - I can offer business customers Bell South local service with 13 features and unlimited local and intralata calling for as little as $29 a line), that is not our primary focus. We are best known for our dedicated long distance pricing - I have sub one cent a minute interstate pricing for our larger clients ($25,000 per month or more). I can give someone who spends as little as $1,000 a month 1.49 cents a minute with a Tier 1 carrier. I stayed away from the local side while it sorted itself out - too many facilities based CLECs went out of business, and our credibility with our clients is our greatest asset - if I was to recommend a solution with a company that was problematic or financially unstable, it would reflect poorly on my judgment, and since I'm responsible for such a mission critical aspect of my clients businesses, I'm very conscientious about who I do business with.

Didn't mean to go on about that, but you seemed to know something about telecom so I figured it would be ok...

Edited fer speling an gramer

posted 04-25-2005 07:22 PM                  

Interesting how many folks were quick to offer up opinions on that "other" thread, but given a real opportunity to contribute to maintaining the site we all value so much, even though it costs absolutely nothing to do so, suddenly they have nothing to say.

posted 04-25-2005 07:32 PM                  

I didn't reply because I wasn't interested in this. I use my business cell for all long distance calls.

Usually if I don't have something positive to add I just don't reply to the thread....whatever the topic is. As I assume the rest of the 270 viewers did.
(not that its negative just not interested)...then again I really can't speak for anyone but myself.

I will continue to support this great site by donating and would not have a problem if it changes from a free site..JMO

posted 04-25-2005 07:42 PM                  

Appreciate the response. As was the case with davidn, I fully understand that some people use cell phones for their long distance. This offer would be of no use to them.

I didn't mean to point fingers at anyone - I guess I was just hoping that my offer would be better received.

That's my problem, not yours, or anyone elses.

posted 04-25-2005 07:51 PM                  

At least your using your head and trying to come up with a solution that helps all of us....so.....THANKS.
Jesse

posted 04-25-2005 08:36 PM                  

quote:

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Originally posted by BuckNekkid:
268 views and 4 participants?

Interesting how many folks were quick to offer up opinions on that "other" thread, but given a real opportunity to contribute to maintaining the site we all value so much, even though it costs absolutely nothing to do so, suddenly they have nothing to say.

Color me disappointed.

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Please don't be disappointed! Still sounds like a great offer for us, you and the POA.

I have to talk to my better half about this. She handles the finances in the family.

posted 04-25-2005 09:01 PM                    

i've been at work for 17 hours but still found the time to check in ....
I need to know if this offer is available in good old Canada...

posted 04-25-2005 10:07 PM                    

Blackcat ... You just keep your hard earned cash with BLS as I have stock with them ... since divestiture ... God Bless you in helping my child's trust account!

Wantone ... Come to the EGV parade, drive your car, relaxe, enjoy life and Thank God for Ameritech/GTE/Verizon!!

MDProwler and Monahan ... Nextel was bought by Sprint ... Run and run fast to the nearest exit ... you might want to try Verizon guys .. if that annoying PTT feature impresses your friends ... God Bless those who have grown out of Walkie-Talkies!!

Anyway ... Bucknekkid ... God Bless you too ... can you spot me 2% of your take from the regular biz ... I waz 2 stuped to B a cellular resellar and U b in the Green ... I honestly no sarcastic BS) think what you offered to do was very righteous!