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posted 03-23-2005 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Just received an updated list of the new, untitled Prowlers still in dealer inventory.

There are only 94 left on the unsold list.

This message has been edited by CJ on 03-23-2005 at 09:33 PM

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CJ,
What is the breakdown by year and color?
I appreciate all you do for the POA and Prowler owners.
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posted 03-23-2005 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
LOL! I should have known......


1997 Purple - 1
1999 Purple - 2
2000 Yellow - 3
2002 Yellow - 4
1999 Black - 4
2000 Black - 6
1999 Red - 19
2000 Red - 1
2000 Woodward - 1
2001 Silver - 2
2002 Silver - 2
2001 Orange - 2 Plymouth
2001 Orange - 7 Chrysler
2001 Mulholland - 14
2002 Inca Gold - 21
2002 Candy Red - 5

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What's your opinion on how many are REALLY for sale, and not just asking some ridulous price so the dealer has a play toy? I think there's a difference between being for sale, and never being titled.
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Rpowell has the same point I was thinking...though from my limited understanding of dealership workings, don't they have to pay out the nose for the Prowlers still sitting there on the lot?
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posted 03-24-2005 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pumpkin     send a private message to pumpkin   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by pumpkin
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. . . . don't they have to pay out the nose for the Prowlers still sitting there on the lot?

Not sure, but I think that is one reason some went for a ridiciously low price - one (2001 Silver) was sold here for about $28K about a year ago. Just wanted it gone. Well, at least someone got a great deal.

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I think... that the dealer has to pay for every month each car sits on the lot. That's why they have big inventory clearance sales in the fall.
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The accountant in me causes me to look at numbers and think about them. So here is the percentage unsold compared to the original production of a color:

1997 Purple 1 396 0.25%
1999 Purple 2 1134 0.18%
2000 Yellow 3 572 0.52%
2002 Yellow 4 420 0.95%
1999 Black 4 799 0.50%
2000 Black 6 1112 0.54%
1999 Red 19 1383 1.37%
2000 Red 1 190 0.53%
2000 Woodwd 1 151 0.66%
2001 Silver 2 545 0.37%
2002 Silver 2 98 2.04%
2001 Org - P 2 689 0.29%
2001 Org - C 7 345 2.03%
2001 Mulnd 14 1278 1.10%
2002 Gold 21 613 3.43%
2002 Candy 5 299 1.67%

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Here is my perspective on this, as a dealer. The prowler had virtually no mark-up. If I remember correctly on a 2001 I had, there was about $2000 between msrp and invoice. The hold back was about $1000. So, with so little to work with, and a declining market value, many of these dealers are simply "waiting" for the value to increase to get their money back out of the vehicle, or minimize losses. I remember I lost $8,000 selling one of my new 2001 Mulholland on ebay in 2003. Just had to take the loss and move on. I would guarantee that most of the dealers "own" these prowlers. Banks will only let you floorplan new vehicles for a year, and then you have to pay them off. Depending on what kind of writeoff a dealer wants to take, December is the best time to negotiate. All sports cars will increase dramatically in value about this time of the year (northeast) getting ready for the spring market.

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Hi,
I beleive that the woodward edition that is shown still available is actually owned by a dealer here in Mich and from what I understand is not for sale.
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I know of one 2000 yellow sitting on a dealer floor here in GA that is not for sale.
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posted 03-24-2005 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Actually, the Woodward on DC's list is located at a dealer in Ohio.
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Go Black Ties!!!!!!!

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There is a red, not sure 99 or 00, here in Wisconsin, at a dealer in New London... not for sale.. less than 100 miles on it.
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Go Black Ties!!!!!!!

Huh...wha...?

Oh WOOOOooooo...Black Ties woooo!

That DID feel good.

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A friend of one of my viper Buddies just bought a new 2001 Orange from dealer in NY-- Monticello I think. 1 less Orange.

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I would like a Mulholland to go with my Candy.

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The Woodward is probably at Caldwell Chrysler Plymouth in Columbus, Oh. They wanted $80,000 for it in 2000 when I bought my black. I heard that the owner still has the car.
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I would like a Mulholland to go with my Candy.
there was three mulholands for sale in vancouver, last fall, check the auto trader to see if they're in there, they were going for high 40 to low 50, all with very low miles.

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posted 03-25-2005 05:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CJ     send a private message to CJ   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by CJ
Steve, that is correct..........it is Caldwell.
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Thunder......if you are serious about purchasing a Mulholland, I can help you with the locations of the remaining Mulhollands left in inventory.
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Those figures indidcate only 9 new cars were sold in the past couple of months: 6 Incas, 1 Mulholland and tw0 '02 Yellows.
This was the count on Jan 17th.

4 - 99 Black
6 - 00 Black
5 - 02 Candy Red
27 - 02 Inca Gold
15 - 01 Mulholland
2 - 01 Plymouth Orange
7 - 01 Chrysler Orange
1 - 97 Purple
2 - 99 Purple
19 - 99 Red
1 - 00 Red
1 - 01 Plymouth Silver
1 - 01 Chrysler Silver
2 - 02 Chrysler Silver
1 - 00 Woodward
3 - 00 Plymouth Yellow
6 - 02 Chrysler Yellow

I guess that works out to about one new Prowler being sold per week in the middle of winter.

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Originally posted by CJ:
Actually, the Woodward on DC's list is located at a dealer in Ohio.


Shame to keep a beautiful car locked up!

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Wow! There are a lot of 99 Red's. I wonder if some owner caused a "concern" with that particular year and color. Hey Ed, what year is your red again???
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posted 03-25-2005 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ed monahan     send a private message to ed monahan   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by ed monahan
Bill, since it is the best color and year, the dealers all kept one for themselves!!!! Really!!
Glad to see you are still lurking. I drove I-275 today past the Milford exit and thought of you not heeding my directions to the letter. lol. I am still sorry about that mistake.

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