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Ed W.

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posted 01-14-2005 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ed W.     send a private message to Ed W.   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by Ed W.
I was just looking at the production figures of the Prowler (the Prowler Story" and wondered what ever happened to the "pilot cars"? Were they eventually sold to the public, scrapped?
How about a year by year answer/guess?

This message has been edited by Ed W. on 01-14-2005 at 04:19 PM

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I'm not 100% sure, but I beleive the "theDQman" purchased one. Beautiful Prowler with a hardtop.


The Prowler in front row, left side.


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I was told by the dealership when I bought my 2002 Prowler that is was a "Pilot" model. It had never been titled, even though it had 1300 miles on it. Is there any way (eg. VIN number code) to determine if it is a "pilot" model. Other than being one of the first models off the line each year, what else is unique about "pilot" models?

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Many of the pilot cars were crushed.
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There is also a BIG difference between "pilot" cars and prototype cars. They can run a "pilot" of any new paint scheme ... which they did I believe and which the DQMan has ... as do others ... but how to verify with Prowler? Got me ... with Vettes its easy to simply look at low VIN's. The prototype or show cars MAY be the ones you are asking about. Mike K or CJ/Bob may know that. Hopefully this helped some.
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What started all of this was the "Production Figures - As of February 15, 2002 (End of Prowler Production)" relative to colors produced each year of the Prowler run. I took this from the "Facts & Stats" column from the POA home page (left side).

I guess there's really two questions here: 1) What happened to the "pilot cars?
2) Is there ANY way the vehicle's VIN can indicate if the vehicle is in fact a pilot car?

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Hello,
As for the other colors I cannot say, but for the Black Ties, 5 Pilots were made.
They were called TWO TONES.
The pilots were used for various duties, some to go to Auto shows, some to go on tour( Chrysler promoted music tour) and one used for promotional purposes,ie. unveilings to the public such as Woodward Black Tea Party and press pictures. My car was also used for the Press to see the new color, along with other models for the new year at The Proving Gounds.

3 of the Black Tie pilots have shown up, one with a very beautiful White firewall ( I guess that car was either white before the Black and Silver or the white firewall was a test.)
One car has special seats in it that are much fatter than the ones currently used. I guess this also was a test.
All so far have special paperwork that went along with the cars to document their history from DC. Some paper work tells of the pilot cars past duty.
The first buyer was required to sign off on the fact that the car was a used ( Show) or ( Promo) Vehicle.
The first titled owner in all 3 cases is Chrysler Corp.

The 5 Black Tie Pilots were all 2000 models unlike the 163 2001 cars.
All the 163 are numbered, in no sequence, and the five 2000 cars have no numbers just striping.
Dr Ru striped them all.
He did keep excellent records, and has been very helpful with the owners here, and Im sure in the future his records will one day verify a cars authenticity, as he has crossreferenced the Vins with the Time and day they were striped.

Why were these 3 pilots released to be sold to the public?
Here is a tale, from a very reliable source, its up to you to decide if its for real.

In 2000 Chrysler was a major sponser of a popular Musical Band Tour.
In the bands contract, The 5 young musicians were all promised one of the same Black and Silver TWO TONES at the end of their tour.
3 of the young gents did not like the Two tone combination and took Different color cars.
Chrysler now made the 3 pilots available to DEALERS ONLY at a special auction that was held.
Most had no mileage, such as mine which had 13 miles but yet they were sold as used vehicles to the dealers.


One was bought by a dealer in Naples,
one by a dealer in.Michigan, then resold or sent to an auction like Barret Jackson.
Thats All I know , I hope this helps.



( Invitation to the Black Tie unveiling)

This message has been edited by thedqman on 01-14-2005 at 09:10 PM

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DQ....very interesting info....great story....


...a few years ago I owned a '70 HEMI Challenger RT/SE "Pilot Car".....vin # was a factor then....always a little something extra to talk about at the car shows...

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Dont you wish you had that now?? $$$$$$$$$$$$
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I met a fella in Madison WI this past summer, at a drive-in grocer/gas station.. he drove up next to Eleanor and I and said that he had built the seats that went into the Prowler

That was kinda cool

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posted 01-14-2005 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GenoTex     send a private message to GenoTex   Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote   Search for more posts by GenoTex
Who was this group... ?
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i think roadster has one of the pilots too. those band dudes must have been on dope to take one of the other colors, black ties are sweet.
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quote:
Originally posted by thedqman:
Hello,
As for the other colors I cannot say, but for the Black Ties, 5 Pilots were made.
They were called TWO TONES....Thats All I know , I hope this helps.



( Invitation to the Black Tie unveiling)


Good Information and Well written..thanks the thedqman.

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Mike; I appreciate all the time you have spent to learn the history of our vehicles. It would be great to know what happened to the other two cars.
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I also noticed the name of the band was left out.

I beleive it was a very popular Boy Band.

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quote:
Originally posted by GenoTex:
Who was this group... ?

Believe it was N'Sync as they were all photo'd with one back then and I seem to remember hearing that a couple of them had prowlers.

As for someone else stating they must have been stupid for not taking those, these are a bunch of kids making millions and are being given the cars for free.

Why not get the color you want. True, to folks in here these might be worth more but, to most of the public, there is no difference other then no matter what color they get, someone will probably pay more for it when they decide to sell it cause of who it belonged to.....

Each probably also had 10 exotic cars that cost 5-10 times what these did back then.

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NSYNC is correct

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quote:
Originally posted by thedqman:

All the 163 are numbered, in no sequence, and the five 2000 cars have no numbers just striping.
Dr Ru striped them all.
He did keep excellent records, and has been very helpful with the owners here, and Im sure in the future his records will one day verify a cars authenticity, as he has crossreferenced the Vins with the Time


We have a Prowler friend that needs some assistance and I'm hoping this group / thread can help -
He has a Woodward Edition prowler that is a salvage.
Dr Ru numbered each of the Woodward's on the deck lid just above the license plate.
My friends prowler is missing the pin stripe in that area so he doesn't know the number.
Is there some way for him to contact Dr Ru to possibly determine what number Dr Ru assigned to his car?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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FYI,

Saw this ad on craiglists the other day.....

Claims that it is a pilot car

http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5445370351.html

What do you think?

Dan

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First, Chrysler didn't take over production of the prowler till mid year 2001. The Black tie was produced in 2000. The only thing this was to promote was NSYNC and their tour. It is one of the originally produce black tie editions of which there we're 150 or so produced, not 1 of 5. Maybe they mean 1 of 5 that were going to NSYNC.
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quote:
Originally posted by Largent:
We have a Prowler friend that needs some assistance and I'm hoping this group / thread can help -
He has a Woodward Edition prowler that is a salvage.
Dr Ru numbered each of the Woodward's on the deck lid just above the license plate.
My friends prowler is missing the pin stripe in that area so he doesn't know the number.
Is there some way for him to contact Dr Ru to possibly determine what number Dr Ru assigned to his car?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


I am afraid your friend is probably out of luck. I believe I am correct that when DR RU numbered them it was in not in Vin Number sequence. The cars were parked in an area at the plant in no particular order and he just went down the line and numbered them. I doubt he kept any records. Bod and CJ may know. Hopefully they will respond.

I just found this that I posted in the attached discussion in 2011

At Woodward I spoke with Dr Ru about numbering these cars when he striped them. He said they were done in no particular order. They were all parked in a large area and he started with the one closest to him and then just moved from car to car, paying no attention to sequence or vin number or anything else. Based on what he told me, all the number 1 means is that is the very first car he striped. JMO

http://www.prowleronline.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/008171.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Michael Pond:
First, Chrysler didn't take over production of the prowler till mid year 2001. The Black tie was produced in 2000. The only thing this was to promote was NSYNC and their tour. It is one of the originally produce black tie editions of which there we're 150 or so produced, not 1 of 5. Maybe they mean 1 of 5 that were going to NSYNC.

Black Tie was produced in 2001, Woodward's were 2000.

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quote:
Originally posted by Michael Pond:
First, Chrysler didn't take over production of the prowler till mid year 2001...
It is one of the originally produce black tie editions of which there we're 150 or so produced, not 1 of 5. Maybe they mean 1 of 5 that were going to NSYNC.

Well technically, Chrysler was always in charge of production...
The 5 two tone cars are clearly listed on the facts and stats page of this site!

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I purchased my 2001 Black Tie new. #8102 Built 10100; time 10/16/12noon. Dr Ru #146. 163 built with 12 going to Canada. Not sure of the "so-called" five pilots.

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